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The Ministry of Defence's position on possible UFO crash into wind turbine at Conisholme in Lincoln

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:49 AM
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I'm sure you've all heard of th possible UFO crash into wind turbine at Conisholme in Lincolnshire in the newspapers recently. Well the MOD were keeping tight lipped about this so I decided to put in a freedom of information request a few months back, which I thought I would share with you all.



Dear Sir or Madam, I would like to know what the Ministry of Defence's position is upon the unexplained object that caused damage to the wind turbine in Lincolnshire. Has it been determined what caused the damage? Yours faithfully, C Bowman




Dear Mr Bowman,

Thank you for your e-mail of 9 February 2009 asking what the Ministry of
Defence's position was regarding the recent damage to a wind turbine in
Lincolnshire and whether the cause of the damage had been determined.

Firstly, it may be helpful if I explain that the Ministry of Defence
(MoD) examines any reports of 'unidentified flying objects' it receives
solely to establish whether what was seen might have some defence
significance; namely, whether there is any evidence that the United
Kingdom's airspace might have been compromised by hostile or
unauthorised air activity.

Unless there is evidence of a potential threat to the United Kingdom
from an external source, and to date no UFO report has revealed such
evidence, we do not attempt to identify the precise nature of each
sighting reported to us. We believe that rational explanations, such as
aircraft lights or natural phenomena, could be found for them if
resources were diverted for this purpose, but it is not the function of
the MoD to provide this kind of aerial identification service. It would
be an inappropriate use of defence resources if we were to do so.

The MoD does not have any expertise or role in respect of 'UFO/flying
saucer' matters or the question of the existence or otherwise of
extraterrestrial life forms, about which it remains totally open-minded.
I should add that to date, the MoD knows of no evidence which
substantiates the existence of these alleged phenomena.

Turning to this particular incident, I can confirm that it was not
officially reported to the MoD but, clearly, we were aware of the media
reports. We are not aware of any substantive evidence to suggest the
turbine was hit by a UFO and unless we receive clear physical evidence
of an aircraft or other object flying into the turbine, we would not
investigate the matter.

I hope this is helpful.

Paul Webb

RAF Bus Sec 13

Room 2E03

Spitfire Block

HQ Air Command

RAF High Wycombe

HP14 4UE

Tel: 01494 49 6254



Sounds like they know more than they are letting on. Just thought it would be of interest to you all.

Chris.



[edit on 2-3-2009 by chrisbowman1990]

[edit on 2-3-2009 by chrisbowman1990]




posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:56 AM
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The Taranis (an unmanned stealth bomber) was making test runs in a site right next to the wind turbine site, i say that this is probably the cause of the broken wind turbine.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:57 AM
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Ummmm you might wanna read HERE


A 65 ft blade that flew off the turbine came loose after bolts attaching it to the hub failed, not because of a collision, examination of the components has revealed.

...after weeks of analysis the turbine manufacturer Enercon has released an interim report identifying material fatigue as the cause of the accident.

They are now carrying out further tests to establish what caused the bolts to come loose, focusing on the blade and hub components to which they were attached. If one of these failed, the bolts could have been put under unbearable stress.

Fraser McLachlan of GCube, which insures more than 25,000 wind turbines, said at the time that a simple mechanical failure was the most likely explanation. "You get three or four cases of things like this a year. They are machines and machines are going to break," he said.


From this thread here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'm afraid the MOD isn't holding anything back, in fact what they told you is true, they never got a report of any sort of UFO in Lincolnshire at all.









posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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There's such a thing as dis-information though. Have they found that turbine blade yet? There were also several locals in the area who saw lights in the sky. I believe they're not telling the whole truth.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
The Taranis (an unmanned stealth bomber) was making test runs in a site right next to the wind turbine site, i say that this is probably the cause of the broken wind turbine.


It wasn't.

It was well established by an ATS member, with contacts to the Military-Industrial Complex, that Taranis is to be tested in Australia - under UK law no prototype can be tested in UK airspace (Health and Safety Laws.)

Even myself located documentation for the planned test flights, all pointed to the Falklands and other UK colonies or Commonwealth Nations.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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Considering the manufacturer is saying it's a mechanical failure and an insurance company says they get 3-4 cases of turbine failures reported a year, the safe bet is on mechanical failure.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
The Taranis (an unmanned stealth bomber) was making test runs in a site right next to the wind turbine site, i say that this is probably the cause of the broken wind turbine.


It wasn't.

It was well established by an ATS member, with contacts to the Military-Industrial Complex, that Taranis is to be tested in Australia - under UK law no prototype can be tested in UK airspace (Health and Safety Laws.)

Even myself located documentation for the planned test flights, all pointed to the Falklands and other UK colonies or Commonwealth Nations.


In light of Chadwickus information on the matter, i'm more inclined to believe him. My initial guess was only a shot in the dark, but as is often the case, matters like this usually turn out to be more mundane (like the wind turbine breaking because it was poorly built or maintained etc rather than because an alien UFO craft crashed into it).



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by chrisbowman1990
There's such a thing as dis-information though. Have they found that turbine blade yet? There were also several locals in the area who saw lights in the sky. I believe they're not telling the whole truth.



Yes they found the blade and it is being examined.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
(like the wind turbine breaking because it was poorly built or maintained etc rather than because an alien UFO craft crashed into it).


Did I mention aliens? Erm, no. Heck, I did not even draw those conclusions in the original thread.

All we concluded was Taranis was not involved in the incident.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
(like the wind turbine breaking because it was poorly built or maintained etc rather than because an alien UFO craft crashed into it).


Did I mention aliens? Erm, no. Heck, I did not even draw those conclusions in the original thread.

All we concluded was Taranis was not involved in the incident.


Fair enough, i overly assumed on that point. So do you hold any opinion that anything in particular caused the wind turbine accident?



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
The Taranis (an unmanned stealth bomber) was making test runs in a site right next to the wind turbine site, i say that this is probably the cause of the broken wind turbine.


Source ???

I'd guess you're talking BS myself.

[edit on 2-3-2009 by CrabPaste!!!]



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by chrisbowman1990

Sounds like they know more than they are letting on. Just thought it would be of interest to you all.

Chris.

[edit on 2-3-2009 by chrisbowman1990]


What bit sounds like they know more???

I think the opposite is the case, they know nothing like they say.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by CrabPaste!!!

Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
The Taranis (an unmanned stealth bomber) was making test runs in a site right next to the wind turbine site, i say that this is probably the cause of the broken wind turbine.


Source ???

I'd guess you're talking BS myself.

[edit on 2-3-2009 by CrabPaste!!!]


Actually i do have a source;

"Residents claimed to have seen bright flashing spheres in the skies near Louth, Lincolnshire, where the 290ft turbine was mangled in a mystery collision.

Ministry of Defence insiders have reportedly said the UFOs could be unmanned stealth bombers on test flights.

The black delta-wing craft, called Taranis, is understood to have been making test runs on the coastal bombing ranges at Donna Nook and North Coates, which are right next to the site of the wrecked wind turbine.

Taranis is about the same size as the Hawk jet trainers used by the Red Arrows at nearby RAF Scrampton - it is being developed by BAe Systems to deliver bombs in battlefields.";

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Your grammar doesn't add up ("I'd guess you're talking BS myself"??).



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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They've done the same thing before, deny all knowledge yet ignored all the witnesses and evidence to suggest otherwise. Take for example the Rendlesham Forest case.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
Fair enough, i overly assumed on that point. So do you hold any opinion that anything in particular caused the wind turbine accident?


Not sure.

The UK has a highly developed anti-gravity program, the descriptions by the eyewitness clearly point to an advance craft. Taranis could be used as a cloak to masquerade another project.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by infiniteIt was well established by an ATS member, with contacts to the Military-Industrial Complex, that Taranis is to be tested in Australia - under UK law no prototype can be tested in UK airspace (Health and Safety Laws.)


Just a quick question: do you have a link or something to a website detailing these laws? Because what you say kinda goes against the information quoted in the article i just posted. Taranis project in UK;

www.mod.uk...

[edit on 2-3-2009 by Tokis Phoenix]



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:23 AM
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How can the MOD (RAF) be messing around with UFO activity when there hands are full already.

www.theinsider.org...

www.timesonline.co.uk...

[edit on 2-3-2009 by 18731542]



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
Fair enough, i overly assumed on that point. So do you hold any opinion that anything in particular caused the wind turbine accident?


Not sure.

The UK has a highly developed anti-gravity program, the descriptions by the eyewitness clearly point to an advance craft. Taranis could be used as a cloak to masquerade another project.


Well there is a Taranis project in the UK, so it could be this and nothing more. I do believe that the UK has a highly developed anti-gravity program- before my father died, he was working on an anti-gravity machine project as far back as the 80's. So with the natural progression of technology, i wouldn't be surprised if we already had anti-gravity machines by now.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by 18731542
How can the MOD (RAF) be messing around with UFO activity when there hands are full already.

www.theinsider.org...



Well they're unidentified aircraft entering the United Kingdom airspace and could be a threat to national security, therefore the RAF deals with them.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Tokis Phoenix
Just a quick question: do you have a link or something to a website detailing these laws? Because what you say kinda goes against the information quoted in the article i just posted.


Read the original thread. And plus, research instead of just quoting the Daily Telegraph. It's kinda amateurish.

Ground testing, which was schedule for early this year, is only restricted to the airbase (circle the base and lands again). Taranis is scheduled for full flight trials in 2010 - i.e test runs.

MOD contradicted itself.

Could be a NATO project for all we know.



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