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Originally posted by J0HNSmith
Originally posted by kaz555
Indeed iran would be able to afford that, how do you think they afford to buy all these nuclear secrets, and aircraft, for example the f 14, they have a whole fleet, and iran makes alot of money through selling gas, and it could be a joint partnership, and you forgot that iran also has ties with ussr, and ussr has some crazy #, especially them crazy migs and helicopters such as the ka 52
Nuclear secrets are CHEAP. How much did that Pakistani scientist sell the info for? Less than 500k I think. I don't know the cost of a F14 but the F/A 18 hornet goes for 1 mil I can't imagine it's much more than that (unless you want it assembled.) The russian military is PATHETIC, remember that's what made the USSR fall, they were trying to keep up with the US technology and failed miserably. Migs? lol migs are a joke against a US fighter jet, hell I have a guy I used to work for who could get you a Mig for the right price. So no, if the best Iran can afford is F14s and Migs it adds nothing to the argument of them being able to buy an aircraft that can do full stop instant turn and instant accretion at speeds faster than any known craft. For any government who developed / reverse engineered a craft like that to make a profit off it (not to mention they would have to develop the technology they didn't have.) They would have to charge billions just to begin to cover the r&d cost. After spending Billions what do you say Iran would do, they scare some farmers with it?
I think not.
I like the part with scaring the farmers, that was pretty funny, but remeber, its not like iran is trying to keep up with any country, iran has been in silence for quite a while now, ever since the 1980's, we dont hear much about what is happenign there, at least the civilan population doesnt know, but something might have been going on. also i belive the reason the quake occured, which killed thousands of people is because of the nuclear weapons testing that has been going on, i belive the testing has been done underground, which caused the barriars under to collapase, or some crap like that, i dont know much about topography or what ever you call it, back to the subject, an f 18 would cost around 15-30 million, no way in hell would it be 1 million, if it was every country would get that, and assemble it, even terroirst would get there hands on them,
Iran continued to seek and acquire conventional weapons and production technologies, primarily from Russia, China, and North Korea. Since Russia announced in November 2000 that it was abrogating the Gore-Chernomyrdin Agreement, the Russian and Iranian Governments and firms have engaged in high-level discussions on a wide variety of military services and equipment — including air defense, naval, air and ground weapons, and technologies. In October 2001, Tehran and Moscow signed a new military-technical cooperation agreement, which laid the groundwork for negotiations and created a commission for future arms sales, but did not itself include sales contracts.
Contract negotiations, which may take years to complete, continued in the following months and at least one sale—apparently for helicopters—was concluded. Various Russian officials and academicians have suggested that sales under this new agreement could, in the next few years, make Iran Russia's third-largest arms customer, after China and India. Until that agreement is concluded, Russia will continue to deliver on existing contracts. Estimates of conventional arms sales to Iran of $300 million per year would put Iran's share of Russian sales worldwide at roughly 10 percent, compared to more than 50 percent going to China and India.
Outside the Russian market, Iran's search for conventional weapons is global. In particular, Iran capitalized on the specialized weapons services and lower prices that China and North Korea offered. Elsewhere, Iran sought out products, particularly weapons components and dual-use items, that are superior in quality to those available from Russia or that have proven difficult to acquire through normal government channels.
it could very well be some advanced iranian or U.S aircraft, or if not an U.F.O, for all i know i got my glock 22 ready , so its all good, if there was ever to be an invasion
[Edited on 28-4-2004 by J0HNSmith]
Originally posted by William One Sac
More on this story. Interestingly, an astronomical expert from Iran is debunking all of the sightings, despite film of a "shining white disc" filmed over the capital. (Still looking for pics) He is claiming that what people are seeing is Venus, and that if ufo's were real they would have been spotted in telescopes. It is interesting this debunking, in a country that is so seperated from the west, however maybe aliens are against strict Islamic beliefs?
Originally posted by ShadowMan
"In my opinion, flying saucers do not exist," he said, insisting his telescopes would have picked up invaders from outer space.
[Edited on 29-4-2004 by ShadowMan]
Originally posted by Condorcet
I'm sure that video will make its way around the internet soon.
State television has shown pictures of a sparkling white disc which it says was filmed over Tehran on Tuesday.
A reporter for the Irna state news agency observed a UFO last week for 90 minutes in the northern city of Bilesavar and was able to film it, according to a report in the newspaper Hambastegi.
The UFO was spherical and had two arms, the paper said.
"The people who have seen these things are not experts - farmers, villagers and pilots," he said.
Originally posted by Zzub
That's pretty typical rense.com stuff. It's content should always be taken with a pinch (or two) of salt.
Originally posted by weemart
Has anyone got a clue what this guy is talking about?
Are Sumerian gods coming to kill us all because of the war in Iraq?