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Originally posted by Spectre0o0
you guys don't get it. if the federal gov sits back until its really bad,they will make a deal to send troops into mexico"to calm things down."
once we have a prearranged deal and the troops are in,they will propose a north american union,since bush already signed our borders away.
THEY SAID WE WOULD ASK FOR IT,AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO FORCE IT ON US.
this is why there is no response from the federales. hell,they're probably running this show.
create a problem,and offer a solution
money from selling arms to the mexicans
change economy to ameros
create a permanent base in mexico
control the flow of goods into the US
and they're probably,as in the past,supplying the drugs
AH! forgot one
they make money from contractors who house prisoners
just by waiting.
[edit on 2-3-2009 by Spectre0o0]
US military chief to offer help to Mexico in violent drug war
WASHINGTON (AFP) — America's top military officer heads to Mexico this week to offer help to a government battling powerful drug cartels, amid alarm in Washington over escalating violence across the border. With the death toll at 5,300 last year and Mexican cartels armed with automatic weapons and billions in cash, the crisis has become a full-blown national security concern for the United States. Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was due in Mexico later this week as the United States signalled it was ready to step up military and other assistance to tackle the heavily armed drug rings ravaging the country's north. "The cartels are retaliating," Defense Secretary Robert Gates told NBC on Sunday. "It clearly is a serious problem." But he said Mexico has dropped its traditional reluctance to cultivate ties with the US military. "I think we are beginning to be in a position to help the Mexicans more than we have in the past," Gates said. "Some of the old biases against cooperation between our militaries and so on, I think, are being satisfied." The United States started sharing intelligence with Mexico in November and under a new program plans to provide helicopters, maritime surveillance aircraft and other equipment, Pentagon spokesman Commander Jeffrey Gordon said.
Originally posted by nikiano
Originally posted by spark00
The mexican cartels have all the stimulas money.
check this out
Mexico's Stimulas Money
You know, I have to laugh at that, because today, I came up with "another conspiracy theory" today about what happened with the TARP money, and this is almost exactly what I came up with.
I asked myself: Isn't it interesting that we can't find 2+ trillion dollars that went bye-bye in the first bailout. And isn't it interesting that it seems to be that our government seems to be waiting for......something major to happen before they do anything about the violence in Mexico.
And then I put those two thoughts together and said: What if the 2+trillion dollars are being held in a secret account, to be used to basically buy up Mexico when the time is right? We come up with an excuse to invade, use the money to grease the palms of the corrupt politicians and the drug cartels who are now in control of Mexico, and viola.....the way is paved for the takeover of Mexico.
Originally posted by AntiNWO
Now imagine this scenario: The cartels get so powerful as to topple the Mexican government. Now they want to set up (more) bases of operations in the U.S., so violence spills over the border with such force as to overwhelm police, Border Patrol, and the feds. Now Americans are being raped, robbed, kidnapped, tortured, and killed by the thousands every day in the border states....
The people start begging the government for protection - the perfect time to invoke martial law, confiscate weapons from Americans, go to war with Mexico, and take it over and execute the final stages of the North American Union.
Originally posted by ZenaV
That's what happens to people who don't pay their bills in Mexico.
Top U.S. Military Leader Offers Help to Mexico
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said the United States could help with equipment and intelligence techniques after returning from a six-day trip to Latin America punctuated by news of beheadings and intimidation by Mexican drug cartels.
Saturday, March 07, 2009
Adm. Mike Mullen would not be specific about what kind of intelligence or surveillance help the United States might offer, but said he saw ways to employ experience the United States has gained in the ongoing hunt for extremists and terrorists.
He would not say whether there may already be U.S. drones flying over bloodstained cities such as Ciudad Juarez, where 17 bodies came into the morgue on one day recently, including the city police force's second-in-command and three other officers.
"Obviously it affects us because of the relationship between the two countries," Mullen said during a telephone news conference as he flew to Washington following meetings in Mexico, his last stop.
There are signs the violent competition among Mexican drug and smuggling cartels is spilling across the border, as cities in Arizona report increases in such crimes as home invasions. More than 700 people were arrested as part of a wide-ranging crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating inside the United States, the Justice Department said last month.
Last weekend, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he also saw opportunities for the U.S. military to help with military training, resources and intelligence.
"I think we are beginning to be in a position to help the Mexicans more than we have in the past. Some of the old biases against cooperation with our -- between our militaries and so on, I think, are being set aside," Gates said in an interview that aired last Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"It clearly is a serious problem," he said.
Originally posted by Seekingmyself
This is quite worriesome. Should I be cancelling my spring break in Cancun?!
Originally posted by chiron613
reply to post by David9176
One possible way out seems, to me, to stop making drugs so profitable. Interdiction hasn't worked. Possibly stopping the interdiction and (say) taxing the hell out of them might take the heart out of the drug interests. Prices of drugs would fall, and profits for illegal interests would vanish. Resources now being used to enforce insane, ineffective, and arbitrary drug laws could be rechanneled into education and treatment of addicts. Some 40% of our prison population could be released, easing that burden and saving enormous amounts of money.
Originally posted by Impreza
Wtf is this ****?! What is the government waiting for when it has come to the point where our people are being taken from homes and shopping malls? This is outrageous! ****ing Texas could take care of this whole mess alone if the Fed would just get the hell out of the way, so what gives?!