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Here it comes...British PM to Propose 'Global New Deal' to Rescue World's Economy

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posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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The prime minister is expected to invoke the words of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who proposed the government-financed New Deal to confront the Great Depression in the 1930s, the paper reports.
Expect more quotes from figure heads of that era...united we stand/ect...

I really don't like the sound of all this, but, being as we're born alone with nothing...and leave this world the same way, nothing in the end really matters, it's all a illusion, if we were to all work together to level the playing field, where everyone could exist comfortably, what would be wrong with that?

I can see the flames on the horizon even as I write this, but, if we all went about our business, engaging in "activitys" that we REALLY enjoyed IE: craftmen building things/inventing things...doctors helping people...teachers educating people...see where I'm going...do/engage in activitys that we actually like and contribute to providing for the masses...then we could just replace/upgrade what naturally wears out, breaks down, ect as needed...eventually just engaging in "activitys" when/if/as needed...

I know this sounds like Socialism or whatnot, but, couldn't it be Utopia?

Utopia is a name for an ideal community or society, taken from the title of a book written in 1516 by Sir Thomas More describing a fictional island in the Atlantic Ocean, possessing a seemingly perfect socio-politico-legal system. The term has been used to describe both intentional communities that attempted to create an ideal society, and fictional societies portrayed in literature. "Utopia" is sometimes used pejoratively, in reference to an unrealistic ideal that is impossible to achieve, and has spawned other concepts, most prominently dystopia.
en.wikipedia.org...





posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:36 PM
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Let me tell you NWO smells really bad. Horrible! We dont want it and should scoop it up and throw it in a landfill to rott.

God it stinks!!



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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They are putting up the show, simulating activity.
Nothing they did so far worked, unless you count the destruction they created.

The clock is ticking... tic tic tic



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Tentickles

God it stinks!!


It stinks pretty bad.

What some people call Utopia, I call indentured servitude. You know I stand with you Tent.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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From external source




E.U. Leaders Reject Bailout for Eastern Europe


www.washingtonpost.com...


You see, they don't have it.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963

I can see the flames on the horizon even as I write this,


TBH, Thats one of the most intelligent things iv heard from anyone on this site



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Continued from above:

If people actually contributed, doing what they actually liked, people would be a lot happier.

If, in the end, everyone lived a comfortable existence with the basically same creature comforts, what would be the use of theft, envy or greed?

we've reached the Technological level where most manual labor could be replaced by machines, say farming/mining with automated computerized GPS tractors/drilling/mining/boring machines, we have these now...

If we just DID this, with what we have now, upgrading along the way as needed, taking it apon ourselfs, we could completely bypass currency...if you needed food just go to the store and get it...

The automated farming system has planted it, watered it, harvested it, transported it to distribution centers across the nation on GPS computerized magnetic guided, safe lane transport vehicles...

I know...I'm rambling...BUT...it could be done...we know how...the only thing in the way is "them"...

that would be my new world order...



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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As Kak as this sounds, im glad its happening this fast. The sooner we get over this and onto our new spiritual awakening the better for us all.

Good vrs Evil is about to erupt, get ready folks.

Just think of whats at the end, your freedom. Thats what your fighting for, right?


We new it was coming anyway.

Bring it on, deal with it win this battle once and for all.

IP



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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Yea, it wouldn't exactly be Utopia per se, there are certain people that get off on stealing and raping and pillaging. They just like that kind of stuff.

For some people all is not enough. The real problem comes in from government, you get some psychopaths that want to rule the world and then you get oppression.

I would like to live in a world where just your ability to think and solve problems would earn you a living in mass, but then you run into the problem of not everybody is able to think and solve problems.

There are some people that are not mentally capable to achive to level for that kind of society to work.

I'm more of a collective through individuality deal. As in a collective is not forced but people eventually realize that helping their fellow man only makes their lives better.

You can't legislate or force morality but it can be learned, but it only works if everybody goes along with it. A complete self-government which means no government at all but people self reliant upon themselves to do what is right, that is the only way it will work, but everybody has to come to that conclusion on their own.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
I freak'n hate these idiots.



let me assure you - they hate you back...



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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The communion of the awakened ones


Not on this Earth, but otherwise possible.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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I'm sorry for rocking the boat...I sometimes go off on trips to la-la land and actually believe there's hope for humanity, that we could rise above our petty differences, live and let live, to each their own ect...

Guess it's just not in human nature...


Conflict is our nature...and undoing...



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:23 PM
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Oh please, don't be pessimistic.
Conflict is not our true nature. It is the nature of schizophrenia. Remember: Divide and Rule!

That's not us. It's the virus.
And there is a cure.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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Something like that. But people would still be able to earn big houses and own property and have more than others, but only enough to help other people become better at what they do.

It's sort of like the carrot hanging from the stick. Everybody having all the same stuff and all being equal sounds really boring. But that is where the whole personal responsibility thing comes in.

Your right though, I think humans in general have been dumbed(I don't even know if that is a word.) down so much it will take centuries to reach that level, if ever.

But of course we have psychopaths that want to try to rule the world and as I said earlier all is not enough, and eventually they will start wars within the "Global Government" just to entertain themselves while they brag how many people "their" army killed.

I'd still like to know where they are going to get all this money, for this "Global New Deal". It just doesn't exist.

Really baffles my mind.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife

I'd still like to know where they are going to get all this money, for this "Global New Deal". It just doesn't exist.

Really baffles my mind.


Most of it is coming from loans sponsored by China. They own almost all of what was once the US Trust. I'm sure the rest of it will be printed up at leisure to be paid for later at the tax payers expense.

It really doesn't make a difference who it comes from at this point. We're the ones who are gonna get hit the hardest, along with the working class of my brothers across the Atlantic in the UK. Tax paying, working, average people will be ravaged by this brilliant 'new deal'.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:33 PM
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I wouldn't say that, I think we are here for more of a purpose than oppressing our fellow man.

It is all about the power you know, and people just don't realize that even the guy that collects the garbage has the power to throw a wrench in the gears.

The problem is like that one senator in Rome, where he wanted to but bands around all of the slaves arms so they knew who was a slave and who wasn't but another senator objected because once they found out how many of them there were they would revolt and take over. Same thing, instead they pit us against each other on petty subjects that are pretty insignificant on the grand scale of things.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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There is going to come a point where China and the Arabs are going to say, "No" and not finance our debt, then we can print it all they want, but then China is going to call in the debt before we have much of a chance to inflate our way out of it.

That is what gets me, is that the US owes people trillions of dollars(combined) and the only thing holding it together is the Bretton Woods agreement. If Brown and Obama get together and decide that they want to spend 10+ trillion dollars for a Global New Deal, it just isn't going to happen.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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I agree with you, except on one point. A globalist government spearheaded by Obama and Brown is a good thing for the Chinese. Thats why I believe they would be happy to foot the bill. Not only does that put the US further in debt to China but with Obama's extreme left agenda, we would practically be emulating the Chinese government.

One other thing is that none of this will stimulate the American economy, or the British economy for that matter. China will be doing great though.

As for the Arabs, they still have us by the balls in terms of Oil. But there has been so much going on behind the scenes as far as Middle Eastern oil is concerned.... Bush was in ca-hoots with them jerks well before he became our President.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:45 PM
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They don't have the money. What they have is simulation of money and they will try to sell it to the people. It is not going to work. We've seen it all before.

Do you know what "post-historical" era means?
They have a hat and they pull out from that hat whichever political system they wish, since all have been tried so far.
But it is just a trick already debunked.
There will be no clapping from the audience.

They will try to create big crisis and assume the role of saviors, but they will be wiped off, ripped together with what they've sown.

Once a man deals with certain ideas, those ideas lose power over that man.
Can you go back to your old love? You can't. It's over, there's no more difference in potential, no more alternating current.

The whole concept of history will, is, degrading before our eyes.
What is important is that the experience is growing, and the spiritual part of human beings, being one and same for all, is accumulating (being this experience).

The effect of "100 monkeys" is going to happen, a quantum leap.

You are concerned about physical aspect, but the solution is in the metaphysical domain. That's why science is helpless at this moment. It doesn't see it, it denies its existence (despite plenty of quantum leap data in the nature, they still insist on primitive version of Theory of evolution - a linear view).

Right now everything is against the concept of NWO. It is dead. Over.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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It sounds like a good thing on paper for the Chinese, but in reality the Americans and the British are not going to give up land without a fight, that is the only way it would work for the Chinese. The Chinese know this and the only reason why America has not been invaded is because the American people are largest untrained army in the world.

It is like Thomas Jefferson said, (paraphrased) "When a person comes up with a theory they only look at all the good sides of the theory, the never look at the bad sides".

I'm sticking to my theory that the NWO is done and they are looting the treasury on the way out and there are a few persistent a-holes that won't let it die and despite everything telling them that it will never come to fruition.



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