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Iran has enough material to make nuclear bomb

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posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:14 PM

There is a sore need for a regime change, but the current leadership has made sure it won't happen through open elections.

Well they have tried, I don't think it's working though.

The young people there especially despise the fanatics.

It's looking to me like that goofball demagogue Ahmedinejad is on his way out, he is not very popular in Iran, his economic and political failures have hurt the average Iranian's standard of living, and the (far more sensible) Khatami is likely to clean his clock in the polls next time around.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:18 PM
Iran has enough material for " ONE " bomb. The only thing they can accomplish with one bomb is to seal their own fate of self destruction.

Think about it, what could they do with just one bomb?

They could destroy one city.

That act alone would sign their death sentence right then and there.

I feel Iran is way to smart to actually detonate the " ONLY " bomb they have. They would only detonate a bomb if they have 50 more and know they have leverage.

This story is propaganda. Until they announce Iran has more than 12 nukes, than they could possibly use one and still have leverage.

With one nuke, they have a test bomb and that is it.

I feel we are safe for the time being.....

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:26 PM
Wal*mart has enough nuclear material to make a bomb, that doesn't mean that they are going to make one.

This story is just Zionist propaganda designed to add support to Israels desire for War against iran.

Here is the truth: Iran not close to making a bomb

Iran is not close to having a nuclear weapon, which gives the United States and others time to try to persuade Tehran to abandon its suspected atomic arms program, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Sunday.

"They're not close to a stockpile, they're not close to a weapon at this point...

That is the US Defense Secretary telling us that the claim of IRan being close to having Nukes is BS. Let us not forget that Israel has many nukes and that they stole the technology from the US and also refuse to sign the non proliferation treaty.

Just having uranium IN ANY QUANTITY does not mean one is on the way to a bomb. Iran has ALWAYS had enough uranium to make a bomb, because Iran, like Iraq, has plenty of naturally occurring uranium ore.

The deciding factor whether one is making a bomb is the LEVEL of enrichment of that uranium.

One more time, the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Association) has confirmed that Iran's supply of Uranium is enriched to the levels required for a power station. NONE of it is enriched enough to make a weapon.

This is just a repeat of the bomb scare used to sell us the war in Iraq.

And if I were you, I would be insulted that they think you are dumb enough to fall for it.

Iran has been very open with the IAEA in allowing them access to monitor their nuclear energy program. Someone is trying very hard to sell the idea for another war on false pretenses.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:46 PM

Milled uranium ore — U3O8, or "yellowcake" — is dissolved in nitric acid, yielding a solution of uranyl nitrate UO2(NO3)2. Pure uranyl nitrate is obtained by solvent extraction, then treated with ammonia to produce ammonium diuranate ("ADU", (NH4)2U2O7). Reduction with hydrogen gives UO2, which is converted with hydrofluoric acid (HF) to uranium tetrafluoride, UF4. Oxidation with fluorine finally yields UF6.


The gas centrifuge process, where gaseous uranium hexafluoride (UF6) is separated by the difference in molecular weight between 235UF6 and 238UF6 using high-speed centrifuges, has become the cheapest and leading enrichment process (lighter UF6 concentrates in the center of the centrifuge).

of itself pure UF6 is NOT enriched uranium.

i know its wiki but its easy to understand - after you get UF6 it then has to be processed - and you seperate *235*UF6 which is the stuff you want , its coverted to UO2 and processed into powered pellets - these are fired into ceramic and loaded into a fuel rod - each rod is an inch or so accross and a foot or 2 long.

a number of rods are bound together to form a fuel cell.

the next step will be for iran to publicayy show its own home made fuel - curently the reactor is using russian fuel

oh yes the reactor is allready `hot`.

a couple of extra things - canada use USA spent fuel to power there powerstations - being a CANDU type you can literally shovel the uranium ore into them and they work - AND canada also sell the USA tritum they produce in the CANDU reactors.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:51 PM
reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

I was mistaken, 3000 is already enough for a full industrial scale program that could churn out enough enriched material for a couple of nuclear weapons[90%] so twice as much is a little too much for just energy right?
Iran is not financially capable of building twice as much centrifuges just so that their civilian program runs twice as fast..
And if people wonder what you can do with one nuclear weapon, think about the EMP when you detonate it in mid air..

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:57 PM
Useful large-area EMP effects require a very large thermonuclear device (in the multimegaton range) detonated within a specific altitude range.

Well beyond Iran's currently achievable technical capacity.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:03 PM
hmmmm i have it on very good authority that the fuel cells in the Bushehr reactor are from france as part of the Eurodif deal - which whilst stopped in the early 80`s , was restarted in the 90`s - Iran paid over $1 billion to be part of Eurodif and to recieve 10% of the output

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:10 PM
the USA is intending to have nearly 15,000 centrifuges running at the USEC Portsmouth centrifuge plant at Piketon, Ohio qhwn it opens in 2012

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:20 PM
Have you ever asked yourself the question: "Why does everybody hate America?'. All too often the answer has been: "Because they're jealous that we're #1. When you're #1, everybody takes a shot at you."

I'm not an American but I think the world is starting to understand that it isn't the common American people who are causing all the strife in the world. Yes indeed, America is hated... and for good god damned reason. But underlying America's foreign policy we find the real culprits... those who should bear the full brunt of the world's hatred. And those are the Rothschilds and their entire cabal. The Council on Foreign Relations, the FED, all the big banks, big pharma (who create avian flue and then sell the vaccine to the unwary public), NASA... and the list goes on.

For the first time in my life, I feel genuine compassion for all of us on this planet... particularly Americans. My views were once cloudy and tainted. But now that I've awoken I understand that all this trouble isn't the fault of the American people.

Unfortunately too much of the world's population isn't yet listening to alternative media, where the truth is going viral. But they will find out sooner rather than later in my opinion. I think the day is coming when most people in the world might even start to all think on the same wavelength and realize that we're all in this hellish mess together. And it isn't the fault of Americans. (Well, some are Americans but their handlers and owners aren't.)

In fact, I think the common American people are about to unleash their true colors (read 'fury') and in doing so take unbelievably positive steps toward saving the world after all. It's starting with what the individual states are currently doing to reassert their authority. Unbelievable, but awesome! And then we see that there are indeed brilliant, courageous American leaders who are on good team. Ron Paul and the incomparable Alex Jones are prime examples of true American heroes who know the score. People like these are the ones who will ultimately save the world from these monsters. My opinion is that eventually history will show that Alex Jones is the greatest American who ever lived.

These are going to be very rough years ahead, but with a hell of a nice silver lining. The end of the Fed would be a very nice step.

When all is said and done... I see the world being a much nicer place to live 15 years from now. And I think the people of the world will be thankfully saying: "God Bless America".

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 03:04 AM
Iran will only be another distraction to keep our attention focus somewhere else

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 06:52 AM

Originally posted by yellowcard

Originally posted by Solomons
reply to post by Foppezao

Maybe instead of using all their oil supplies they would rather sell it,use nuclear plants to power themselves and make a shiny penny selling oil to other countries? makes sense...

Then why don't they use their huge desert to make solar and wind powered farms? It would actually be cheaper, and there would be no waste, Iran obviously has ulterior motives, whether you agree with action or not (and I don't.)

because if Iran build huge fields of solar panels, you would see photos of them all over the TV telling you that Iran is building some super weapon that will shoot sattelites out of the sky, they would be accused of trying to generate enough power to fire it.
If they built wind farms they would be accused of using the giant propellers to move their country a little at a time to eventually push Israel into the ocean.

The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.
Truth is that Iran can have nuclear power or even nuclear weapons as long as they are in the pocket of the US, once you don't agree with US policy you somehow become a rougue state and an enemy to the world.

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:06 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Attacking Iran is madness. Their conventional capabilities combined with their location in the region would be tantamount to economic suicide for the USA to attack them. The Hormuz strait would come under fire, oil pipelines and tankers etc. The US bases in Iraq would come under missile attack. The US Airforce would face a decent battle for air supremacy (which they will eventually win). Those Iranian sunburn missiles must still be a danger, eh... Not to mention the possibility of the Hezbollah getting involved; the chances of a dirty bomb attack using the HEU by the IRCG. And then there's Russia...

Israel may try, but even the mighty IDF would face a hell of a fight from the Iranians.

In my assessment, they are untouchable. And rightly so.

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:21 AM
Let's not forget their plutonium program! @Arak opened in 2006 en operational this year.. Think of all the heavy water plants in India, Israel, Pakistan en N-Korea alll used for plutonium warheads.But no this heavy water plant is only used for medicine and stuff.. ridiculous to think Iran wants to use it for warheads right?

[edit on 2-3-2009 by Foppezao]

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:29 AM
reply to post by Foppezao

You really seem to have a bee in your bonnet over Iran.
Why is it that you honestly think that Iran is a threat?
They had nothing to do with 9/11
they had nothing to do with the London bombings
and they had nothing to do with Iraq
and nothing to do with Osama bin laden.

What exactly is the threat?
do you think that with all the oil that they have, they could just buy one from Russia, china, north Korea, India, Pakistan or even of a dirty Israeli General.

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 07:52 AM
reply to post by munkey66

I don't think bumping over Iran/attacking them now without a well thought plan is a really good idea..
Like i said why are countries not supporting them with other sustainable energy in order to help them with their oil refinery shortage?[really Iran's economy is even worse then ours at the moment] Iran has enough open space and sunlight for solar panels to provide energy for their country and sell the rest of the output to the whole of the middle east[with the rest of the crude oil]..But they don't, and if you see how they built heavy water plants, lots of centrifuges to enrich uranium i think you're really naief and ignorant to think they only have peacefull and civilian purposes..forget about that fool ahmedinejad and think about their evil clerics who used thousands of children to sweep the minefields in the 80's, and all the other martyrs they have trained and send to Iraq and israel/Lebanon..Those are the people who will obtain a nuclear device within one or two years. I don't think it is a good idea for the US to bump in this now but if Israel feels threatened in their existence and they do and have the capability to parry this, they should do it..

[edit on 2-3-2009 by Foppezao]

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:12 AM
reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

Before you go disregarding Biblical prophecy you might want to do your research and discover that EVERY SINGLE PROPHECY SO FAR HAS COME TO PASS. Not just one, not just a couple but every single thing that God said would happen has happened. So with the knowledge that all these things have happened would it not be wise to believe that the rest of the prophesied events will happen?

2 + 2 = 4. Its that simple.

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:19 AM
reply to post by wiredamerican

Oh give it over

Just think about learning not to say stupid nonsense

posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 01:14 PM

Originally posted by JesusSaves2008
reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

Before you go disregarding Biblical prophecy you might want to do your research and discover that EVERY SINGLE PROPHECY SO FAR HAS COME TO PASS. Not just one, not just a couple but every single thing that God said would happen has happened.

I think you missed his point, and at the same time prove it.

What I believe he was saying is that people are claiming Iran to be run by religious zealots that are fanatically trying to bring back their messiah through prophecy, and yet at the same time do the EXACT same thing through their own religion (Christian for example) with the actions and choices they make.

They just can't see themselves in the same light because they both believe their one faith to be true and the others to be heretical.

He wasn't disregarding Christian biblical prophecy, he was comparing the reaction to that prophecy with the alleged reaction of those in Iran accused of fanaticism.

One mans savior is another mans Satan, while all the followers can be seen as behaving the same at times. Personally from my standpoint I have a hard time seeing the difference. Bush says God told him to invade Iraq, and some say Israel too was created for prophetical causes, and many Christians believe it should be defended as such.

You don't want your messiah to return, too?

On the topic of: "Iran has enough material to make nuclear bomb":

The average citizen has the material to create a very prolific bomb around their home, whether they know it or not. More materials can be easily purchased at the local grocer or thereabouts.

Can they arrest them for an Oklahoma City bombing before they have proof the citizens are trying to do so?

Maybe those materials are actually for cleaning and gardening purposes?
Are the accusers bomb making as we speak?

- Lee

posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 11:00 PM
I have a lot of sympathy for the Iranian people. They've been hijacked into an worldwide Islamic Revolution they never bargained for. They just thought they were throwing out the Shah at the time.

So say their leaders are benign and avoid conflict is something else.
You might say one threat is mistranslated, but when they issue them in their patented nuanced language every few days it's pretty clear they are not planning on sending Israel a bunch of flowers.

Highlights of their foreign policy, list that could go on for pages:

Iran supplies missiles to the Taliban. Iran supplied Iraqi insurgents with the deadly EFPs that killed more soldiers than any other weapon. Iran offered the British a deal to stop killing their soldiers in Iraq if they backed off Iran’s nuclear program. Iran has given Hezbollah $1 billion to help in the upcoming elections in Lebanon. Iran has turned Hamas into a well-funded and well-organized terror organization that now feels competent to wage war on Israel. Iran bankrolls both organizations, and both of them drew Israel into two wars in two years by firing rockets on her citizens, and killing and kidnapping soldiers.

There's a message in there somewhere.

Mike F

posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 11:29 PM
"Iran has enough material to make nuclear bomb"


America has enough nuclear bombs to make parking lot.

I wouldn't worry about them having only one bomb. Unless they put it in Yellowstone...

[edit on 5-3-2009 by Snap]

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