Originally posted by h5mind

Tens of millions of non-muslim people are equally disgusted with imperialism-- does that make them terrorist sympathizers as well? Polemic "us versus them" propaganda serves little purpose, other than to dehumanize the supposed enemy in order to more readily kill them. Most of us know the nefarious 'PTB' would probably like nothing more than us plebs at one anothers' throats over such matters. Anti-Western or anti-Muslim propaganda-- it's all just someone with an agenda trying to sell you something. Just remember, regardless of which symphony is playing, the maestro leads the music.

That does seem to be the case. Honestly, all of it is becoming more than the average peson can handle. Everyone seems to be able to point out the polems, but I'm not hearing any feasible solutions to this problem or a host of others.

[edit on 28-2-2009 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by TheAmused
I think Personally..i said Personally!!

We didn't bomb enough .

I agree, but I think we bombed the wrong parts of the middle east with bombs that are way too small. I would have used low yield nukes to make my point. If that didn't work then we need to ponder really hard on the solution. Obviously talking and trying to work with them to sort out their problems doesn't seem to work. Peace sells, but who's buying?

if a priest framed you for murdering a parish full of people that he in all actuality had the church janitor, and altar boys do, would you be angered at that priest? how would you defend yourself? now, im not sticking up for anyone here at all. but i think i may understand why radical muslims hate us. because our "friends" inside the government, whoever they are possibly killed over 3000 americans and destroyed alot of property, repealed the constitution, and blamed the extremist (sp?) muslims for it. wouldnt you be a little angry? and from what ive gathered i think were stealing their nations resources too. nice of us, huh.... why do they hate our government? probably for the same reason most of us are afraid of it.

If a Religion starts
lets say in a major city here in the state's.

That say's it's OK to kill Muslim's..if there against Jesus or god.
Its what god tells them to do.

and start living what they preach.

wack wack wack a muslim

Would you arrogantly blow it off and say well i know jimbob is in that church he wouldn't kill anyone so they not all bad.

if 4to 6 out of 10 member's are willing to kill a Muslim in this fake religion..

You would head hunt them before they head hunt your kids or you..and you know it.
so when 150 out of 1000 Muslim's wants to kill me or my kid's for no reason other than jihad.....heck yes something's wrong with that religion.

Number's based on the 10 to 15%

Double standards is crazy in America and apparently abroad.

Mark my word's if this was a new religion taking root's...in America we would have hung em all or worse lol..no exception's...
God i wish the old west rules still applied sometimes lol

Islam is a mental disorder with aspects of a highly infectious disease. It is no more a religion than a violent totalitarian ideology with no room for debate. What I find particularly apalling is any comparison to other religions. There have been muderous adherants of Christianity and Judaism and even Budism. Those people were rogues and wofefully misinterreted their sacred texts for personal gain. However only the Koran actually proclaims in clear text the killing of innocent men women and children to be conducted by true adherants of that sickness.

What is ironic about the video is that England was so blind to the threat of the Nazis that they sent the panty-waisted Chamberlain to Germany to make a deal with Hitler which nearly cost them their entire country. Today their government is subsidizing the equivalent of Naze youth camps on their own soil.

There are not enough prisons on earth for the criminally insane to hold all of the radicalized muslims. Our half baked war in Afghanistan will never get rid of all of the jihady camps and only provide more footage for their propaganda. My solution would be to bring all of our troops home, secure our borders air tight and spread the thoughtful message that the only good muslim is a dead one.

Originally posted by guinnessford
why do they hate our government? probably for the same reason most of us are afraid of it.

Kinda think you missed a tiny piece of the puzzle. Radical muslims are against all non-believers. That goes for christians, jews, buddhists, along with Europe, etc.

If the American government was to blame for all of this, why are the buddhists being targetted? haha

Well....it would have helped a lot if our CIA had not radicalized the Muslims ON PURPOSE by giving the little kids schoolbooks encouraging violence against non-believers....

If the Muslims would wake up and realize how they've been used and manipulated, and just STOP and think, they'd turn from this.
Blowback. A funny thing. Why not just call it karma?

the world is being targeted. you cant have an unwinable, neverending global war on terror where we can put bases wherever we want to siphon off some black gold if the only place "they" strike is here. buddhists, agnostics, canadians, blacks, mechanics, walmart shoppers. you name it were all fake targets of the next false flag staged terror event. that way they can legitimize spying on us, and taking liberties away. to protect us.

Believe me I know muslims want to kill all kuffars or non-muslims I get sick of apologists using the crusades as an example of Christain violence. The crusades were an excuse for out of work soldiers of fortune to go on a treasure hunting mission and to sack Constantinople on the way. Or when people use the phrase an eye for an eye to justify Muslim agression. An eye for an eye was old testament right to repsond to your enemies agressions with the same force. It never said anything about using suicide bombers to blow up buildings full of innocent people.

For a very honest assesment of the history and impact of Islam do yourself a favor and read "The sword of the Prophet." It is a chilling look into the history of Islam. If Muhamed were to try doing what he did back in his day, converting entire villages at the end of a sword or burning them down and taking all of their valuable posessions, he would be hunted down as a filthy war criminal and shot.

Originally posted by zarp3333
Believe me I know muslims want to kill all kuffars or non-muslims I get sick of apologists using the crusades as an example of Christain violence.

That comment was not only ignorant but incredibly bigoted.

Muslims consider Christians and Jews as "brethren in religion" and believers. The only time any Muslim is allowed to kill is in in self-defense, and when the other party chooses to avoid peace.

If Muhamed were to try doing what he did back in his day, converting entire villages at the end of a sword or burning them down and taking all of their valuable posessions, he would be hunted down as a filthy war criminal and shot.

First, Muhammad only took what the Meccans stole from him and his people when they kicked him out for teaching monotheism.

Second, isn't what you described happened going on right now, with the US in Iraq? Here is what your comment looks like when we substitute Muhammad with the US:

If the US were converting entire countries to a "Democracy" at the end of a bomb or burning them down and taking all of their valuable oil, they would be hunted down as a filthy war criminals and shot.

Is what you say still true?

[edit on Sun Mar 1st 2009 by DJMessiah]

in germany, you had one madman with a moving speech. in this instance, you have a cleric in most mosques telling the people who have never dared to think for themselves to go and die because it looks like their god can't seem to do in the infidels himself. whats better? dress your kids up like good little heathens and make them go and do it too, because hey, barney's the devil! this hate and venom didn't grow overnight. it would be fun to blow them up to kingdom come when they're at their religious pilgrimages, but no, it wouldn't be right. besides, we'd just end up giving the cowards more holes to hide in, and more martyrs for the cause. a TRUE MAN or WOMAN does not hide behind a scarf or veil to show the faith, be it with a gun or an ideal.
remember this, and keep it in your hearts- those who kill in the name of a god bring shame on that god, and all the good he stands for.

Enough with this "radical" bull#! Every human being (and I use the term loosely) is radical for fu**'s sake!

And the N.W.Os plans are progressing along nicely!

Please, PLEASE dont fall for the ultimate propaganda being used for the NWOs plans.

What plans?

The plan of a One World Religion!

There are literally millions upon millions of good, honest and caring Muslims the world over. Just as there are millions upon millions of good, honest and caring Christians the world over. Jews and Buddhists and the many other cultural religions throughout the globe. From North American Indians to Aboriginals in Australia.

So what do "they" do? they destroy it from within. Islam has been hijacked. Just as Christianity has been hijacked. Don't fall for the propaganda that all these religions do is cause death and suffering. That's what "they" want you to believe. "They" want you so sick and tired of all the hate, all the fighting, all the extremism, that you will happily accept an "alternative"

This is systematic destruction of religion on ALL sides, by a group who has an "alternative" religion, an "alternative God" for the world to worship. With THEM right at the top.

Already there are many who are down right sick to death of religion in all its shapes and forms - and rightly so, if you look ONLY at the negative picture they've painted.

The same picture was painted of Jews. Their all greedy, their all evil and they want to take over the world and control you, own you, make you their slaves ....
That picture resulted in millions of innocent men, women and children being slaughtered.

Hitler was an "alternative" God to worship. And boy did those Nazi Germans worship him. They sacrificed themselves, millions of them for their new found religious leader. They also slaughtered millions for him too.

Muslims are not evil. Just as the Jews where not evil. Christians are not evil. They all stand in the way of the power elites goals of world domination and are being systematically destroyed.

The way the OPs movie plays out, your almost sitting there thinking "if we dont act soon and put an end to this Islamic extremism, they'll take over and kill us all" which is EXACTLY what Germans thought about the Jews!
Its propaganda plain and simple - based on fear which leads to hatred.

Islam IS being hijacked. Radical Islam IS a serious problem.

Have you stopped and wondered why Govts are allowing this to spread? Why the British Govt allows radical Islamic followers to stand in open public and declare Jihad?
They'll tell you its about being politically correct. Do you buy that line? Can you see through the smoke screen?

We are being lead down a path of destruction. They have plans of which require this radical religion to grow.
You cant have a war on "terror" without terrorists ....

Please, PLEASE don't fall for this propaganda.

One World Religion IS a good idea, just none of the current ones fit the bill in all honesty.

Its not about offering another God to worship its about accepting the fact that we all worship the same God (those of us who do anyway).

[edit on 1-3-2009 by gYvMessanger]

Originally posted by gYvMessanger
One World Religion IS a good idea, just none of the current ones fit the bill in all honesty.

Its not about offering another God to worship its about accepting the fact that we all worship the same God (those of us who do anyway).

[edit on 1-3-2009 by gYvMessanger]

Mate thats just the thing - this aint about a One World Religion is the sense of what you want.
You cant have a war on terror without terrorists. Having terrorists suites their purpose.

This is about using a war on terror to implement a One World Order. They want terror. They want radical extremists on BOTH sides in order to implement new laws, news conditions, new controls upon us ALL.

Religion has NOTHING to do with this situation. The picture they've painted, the conditions they've created, puts religion smack bang in the middle of the situation, which is exactly their plan. It is being used as a tool.
Just as Hitler used socialism as a tool to unify Germany, the power elite are using a radical form of Islam to unify Muslims.

Its called creating sides for conflict. Propaganda.

They need radical Islam. Without it the changes bought about by 911 could never have happened. Its got nothing to do with honest hard working Muslims, honest hard working Christians or honest hard working New Agers. As far as their concerned they couldn't give a rats gold tooth who or what you believe. Its simply using religion as a tool to bring about new laws, new controls to bring about their plans of dominance over you and me, regardless of what we believe.

Yes many would say a One World Religion would be a good thing. But who's religion? Isn't freedom for one to worship what one desires important? The freedom to choose what one worships mean anything?

IT MEANS EVERYTHING!

And if they continue (and I have no reason to doubt they'll fail) we'll all be busy pointing the finger at each other, at our differences, our ideologies and beliefs to notice what OUR true enemy are doing, right under our noses.