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number of the beast is climat change

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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:28 PM
666 is the number of man

Carbon is made up of
6 protons
6 electrons
6 neutrons

man is made of carbon, therefore carbon is the number of man.

to get the mark is to receive a mark so as to pay your carbon tax in the future, (that is what this whole global warming scam is about) make people believe that carbon is the enemy of the planet and that people should become responsible and reduce their carbon foot print.

How will you make people reduce their carbon foot print? you tax them on everything that uses carbon.
how can you be sure that everyone pays their tax, you make it compulsory to get a mark like a bar code that automatically deducts money from your account after you go shopping or make any purchase.

Those who don't receive the mark will be hunted down by those who are trying to save the planet, you will not be able to buy or sell without the mark, you will be shunned as a planet killer and then become an enemy of man kind.

the perfect number of the beast, you don't even have to be religious to see that this makes sense, this is a way of totally controlling the entire population of the world, and what is it that the elite want?

they want to reduce the population to make their own heaven on earth and have those chosen sheep left to serve only the masters, what will the slaves do when they cannot do anything without the mark?
nothing, if they fight or rebel, their number gets turned off and they just cease to exist, unable to buy or sell, they starve and get thrown into the street.

this does not have to be a religious debate, more of a debate about the validity of the idea itself

[edit on 28-2-2009 by munkey66]

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:05 PM
reply to post by munkey66

I always thought the number of the beast was our SIN (social insurance number), and the Whore of Babylon was internet pornography.

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:12 PM
reply to post by cognoscente

Not everyone has a SIN (social insurance number).
each country may have its own version or similar version, but it could also be incorperated into the equasion of being able to identify us.
The idea behind the mark is to track every transaction rather than using cards or cash, you simply get read like a bar code gets read at the check out.

as for Babylon, I am sorry to say that my opinion is that the USA is Babylon

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:15 PM
Actually that is pretty interesting to look at. I think I can kind of see where it is that you are going with this idea, but...One thing that gets me is how this would be implemented. A lot of speculation seems to be resting upon what happens afterword, but from the standpoint and where we are at now in the world how would they market the chips to be good and what would the people do?

As of now I'm doing my best to keep religion out of this, but for this small part I will include it. Most of the United States have some sort of religion to which they are affiliated with. Being that their are various shows on History, National Geographic and such stating to beware of the mark of the beasts; what would happen then? As most religious folks may very well see it as the end times and try to separate themselves from what the government is trying to do (Depending on whether it is a world government or just a simple one nation government).

Furthermore if they (Governments) specifically try the argument of "man made of carbon" what about the other elements we are composed of?

C - Carbon
H - Hydrogen
O - Oxygen
P - Phosphorus
K - Potassium
I - Iodine
N - Nitrogen
S - Sulphur
Ca - Calcium
Fe - Iron
Na - Sodium
Cl - Chlorine
Mg - Magnesium
Mn - Manganese
Zn - Zinc
Others -Trace amounts of Selenium (Se), Cobalt (Co), Chromium (Cr), Copper (Cu) and probably some others.

P.S. These questions are not directly pointed toward you munkey66 just questions in general I suppose that could be added upon your own.

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Nurii
Furthermore if they (Governments) specifically try the argument of "man made of carbon" what about the other elements we are composed of?

That's a really interesting point. I too am dismayed by the idea that complex systems can be understand in terms of their reducibility. Emile Durkheim, a famous sociologist, agrees that social facts can not be explained in terms of individual actions or representations (or individual atoms in this case), but that reality can be located only in the living substance in its entirety, i.e. the combination of two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen in the formation of water. If you're analyzing the qualitative characteristics of water, as they are applied to their interaction with human agents, then you can't scrutinize hydrogen and oxygen separately. You must look at them in their combined form to see how it serves as functional to the individuals making use of it. Of course, this can only be true in the case of human agents, whose immediate observational equipment are restricted to the capacities of their evolved biological organization through the senses. In the future, when technological progress allows for greater processing power and enhanced computational ability, this mode of reasoning might be reversed.

[edit on 28-2-2009 by cognoscente]

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:45 PM
the truth is that no one is trying to impliment a water tax or even a zink tax, the goverments of the world how ever are talking carbon trading and carbon tax.

as for religion, the climate change is becoming the biggest moving religion on the planet, it doesn't matter if you are Hindu, Christian or Buddhist, everyone is talking about climate change and what we have to do to impliment it.

as far as how will this come about, they will use the old fashioned method of war, war has been used countless times to change goverment and peoples way of thinking.
The easiest way to get change is to throw everything into chaos and then come out with a solution that tells us that we will never let this happen again.
just like WWI was the war to end all wars.
they will probably tell us that the world is dying due to the war and we all must do our part to fix it, after war peoples minds become more pliable and are open to a wider viriety of ideas.

once people hink that the worse is over will be the time to strike,
example, only a person who hates the earth and people upon it would not take the carbon tax mark, doesn't matter how strong your faith, people will follow peer pressure so as not to stand out, even if they know it may be wrong.
even Peter denied he knew Christ.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 10:41 AM
reply to post by munkey66

More than likely the government probably already sees the water bill implemented upon people's houses as enough for now

I agree, climate change is the most talked about subject for the most part. I hear it everyday I am at work and people are always asking if we have those green re-usable bags in stock. Always saying no plastic bag, or "Oh I have my own!" The thing is though, people were doing this before back in the 90s at least my parents would always have their own tote bags, many from pharmacy companies and such. Just wondering if corporations are trying something different to get people to change now.

I don't know about War, I mean we are currently in a "conflict" as of right now, would people still want to do that? I can see it maybe happening if the U.S, Great Britain or any other country were attacked; but as of right now I don't really see the idea becoming present as of yet.

I think people are already feeling the effects of peer pressure (related to those plastic saving bags which are re-usable.) Even though a few companies give them away for free at various conventions trying to promote something; people would rather buy them, because they see others with it or have been old about them. So I'd say that peer pressure part is already well under way.

Already some places implementing water taxes.

[edit on 1-3-2009 by Nurii]

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 10:44 AM
The number of the beast, is 616.
Not 666.
It was a code used in writings to refer to Roman emperors who would persecute the Jews.
So they wouldn't know.
Its similar to how we use codes in this day and age.
You are living in a stupid world thinking this crap.
I can honestly tell you that you have been fooled.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:27 PM

Originally posted by BorgHoffen
The number of the beast, is 616.
Not 666.
It was a code used in writings to refer to Roman emperors who would persecute the Jews.
So they wouldn't know.
Its similar to how we use codes in this day and age.
You are living in a stupid world thinking this crap.
I can honestly tell you that you have been fooled.

you may be right about the writing being code for Roman empereors who would persecute the jews.

But to believe anyone would be stupid for believing this crap is a little short sighted.
This does not have to be religious, the power elite are going by a game plan which has been in motion for many years now, It doesn't matter if you, I or your aunt mary believes in the bible, we are not the ones pulling the strings trying to control not just the world, but every man, woman and child upon it.
How would you explain the events which are taking place, every time you turn on the TV or read the paper there is always a reference somewhere about climate change, how would you explain the carbon trading schemes that are being mentioned? what about the talk of carbon credit and carbon taxes?

I think anyone not seeing a pattern here is the ones being fooled.

There are some of us who see the bible as a guide, others see it as gospel and others again see it as fiction, one thing for certain is that this wole climate change scam is not a guide for us, it is not gospel and it is not fiction, it is here and it is being implemented day by day, piece by piece.

and in reply to Nurii

War has always been a way for goverments to implement change, there may be conflicts currently, but none of these wars are effecting people on the ground in europe or America.
we are begining to see the start now with riots in parts of Europe and Asia, you will see more protests and people layed off work, when many are homeless and hungry, when you have shootings over a loaf of bread, snow balls start out slow but gain in size and speed and currently the snowball has just begun.
I am not talking about a little war, I am talking about one that involves conscription and having many many soldiers lose their lives in a fictitious war all about change, If people are put through hell for a time, they will accept what ever is offered to them as a substitute as long as they don't have to go through hell anymore.

currently you are hearing world leaders talking about a one world governance, a global financial solution, the words are always global or one world, this is a way of puting an idea into peoples heads before setting the wheels in motion.


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