Zionism the Root of Mideast Problems, World Problems

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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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Ultimately, all the wars center around one theme -- world conquest.

It's spiritual. We have a malevolent spirit named Lucifer who is in competition with God, who thinks he can outdo God, who wants to rule the world. He gives power to those who are willing to serve him and help him accomplish that purpose, world government, ruling through a willing pawn, the man the Christians call the antichrist. Throughout history there have been many antichrists, and the final one will outdo them all.

This final antichrist ruler will seem to be the Messiah the Jews have been waiting for, and he is to sit on the throne in Jerusalem, in a rebuilt Solomon's Temple,
[img]http://www.realjewnews.com...[/img] and declare himself to be God. He will demand (and get) worldwide worship.
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This is the Jewish messiah the Jews are wailing for at the wailing wall, and for which they are making plans to rebuild Solomon's Temple, the furniture having already been built. Only thing standing in the way is the Dome of the Rock.

How did the Zionists manage to steal Palestine? The British Zionists used CI Scofield to infiltrate the Christian church with dispensational teachings and interpretations which were printed as footnotes right into the Bible, by way of the Oxford Publishing House sponsored with British Zionist money. (see post below)

Harry Truman, 33rd degree Freemason, arranged with the Rothschilds and other Zionists to secure Palestine for them.
[img]http://www.realjewnews.com...[/img] (watch the Money Masters
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The communist movement was funded and launched also by the Rothschilds, and Lenin and Trotsky (both Zionist Jews) installed communism in Russia. It was Lenin who placed the plaque in front of Aushwitz in Poland announcing the death of 4.5 million Jews in that one camp.

Recently that plaque was removed by the curator. Seems that was a figure pulled out of thin air by Lenin, and the curator/historian says only 450,000 human beings in total died in that camp, "only" being a huge number, but nowhere near 4.5 million. And many of those who died there were not Jews.

Nobody is weeping over the millions of people killed by the Communists, and nobody is offering Christians to have their own nation to go live in because of past killings of Christians. And if it's not enough to give the Jews their own nation (a nation which most Jews refuse to live in, would not live in if you paid them, and most Jews live right here in the U.S.), we also must give them billions of dollars each year, the very latest military weaponry that outranks our own military hardware and weaponry. We allow their spies to run our government top to bottom, allow Mossad to direct Department of Homeland Security, a Mossad (Rahm Emanuel) to be the chief of staff to our president, and on and on.
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When we examine what is lurking in the minds of the Fourth Reich Zionists, we discover in their Talmud they believe they are collectively God on the earth, that they have a magical specialness about themselves which entitles them to own the world, to kill everyone on the planet who they deem unfit to serve their needs.
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Former Talmudic Jew Nathanael Kapner writes about this in his website
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The Torah is the Old Testament, Holy Scripture. The Talmud is Jewish fables and superstitions and traditions and rabbinical interpretations, and Jesus condemned the whole lot of it, and if you knew what is in it you'd understand why.
[img]http://www.realjewnews.com...[/img] The Jewish Babylonian Cabala is nothing but a book of sorcery and black magic.
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The bottom line is that we have erected a state, named by the Rothschild as Israel, bearing the Rothschild coat of arms as its flag,
[img]http://www.realjewnews.com...[/img] the six pointed Solomon's Seal, the most occultic symbol you can find -- we have erected a state in honor of witchcraft and satanism, a place to house the antichrist, a badlands to house criminals and murderers and provacateurs and monsters, a place to create kiddie snuff films, a place referred to in Scripture in the last days as "Sodom and Egypt."

Click here for info on the Rothschild dynasty:
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The New World Order. Here's the three Zionist goals:
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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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My friend, the truth of the matter is this.


We as human beings....are the biggest problem facing human beings. It has nothing to do with which sect we come from, albeit some are in control that should not be, it comes down to the fact that we are animals, and behave as such.

Only when we become Human Entities will we finally understand peace and love, and stop all of this nonsense of drawing imaginary lines in the sand.

The zionist regime has contributed to this problem and continues to do so, but you must look at the broader image. And if you do, it is very easy to realize that we cannot pin everything on a single sect of society, for every other sect has gotten a piece of that cookie as well.

We are all to blame, more so than most in the west for our lavishly ridiculous consumption based lives, and our fear spreading media fueled by propaganda and hate.

Spread the love, be happy for what you have, it's going to get worse before it gets better, I suggest you enjoy this "calm before the storm".

Btw...Hug A Tree, say hi to mother nature.



And further more, you are generalizing all of Israel as murderers and child molesters, which is pretty anti-semetic. Which does not give you very much credibility with this information if you're personnal opinion is biased.

~Keeper


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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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WARNING!!!! THIS IS SPAM!!!!!

This guy used to post on the Google Finance Boards as hccrusader screen name. He is a flaming anti-semite who is a hate monger. I guess he has been banned by Google so he is now here to spread the hate.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by finemanm
WARNING!!!! THIS IS SPAM!!!!!

This guy used to post on the Google Finance Boards as hccrusader screen name. He is a flaming anti-semite who is a hate monger. I guess he has been banned by Google so he is now here to spread the hate.


First I'm not spamming, I'm not this other poster, and I'm not a flaming anti-semite.

I am anti Zionist, and I'm anti Talmud and anti Babylonian Cabala, anti Mossad, anti WWIII, Anti New World Order, anti racism.

It is the Zionist Talmudics who are the racists, who think their DNA is more special than anyone else's, who want to start WWIII and take over the world and install the Fourth Reich.

So let's be clear about who is the racist here. I'm a Christian, and I believe God will accept anybody who loves him and wants to follow him, and God doesn't choose people based on their DNA or because they study an occultic book called the Talmud that teaches that Jesus was a scoundrel who is burning in Hell and that Mary was a whore, or any of the other evil things contained in the Talmud. The Babylonian Jewish Cabala is pure black magic sorcery, Satanic. You don't have to be a semitic to believe it. I condemn that book, not a race of Semitic people.

The Palestinians are Semitic, and I love the Palestinians, and I wish I could help them as the Zionists are exterminating them, having stolen their homes and orchards and lands, now shock and aweing them with American weapons.

Seems to me the people who are cheering the death of the Palestinians and chomping at the bit to attack Iran are the ones who are the real anti semites.

I'm not a racist. I don't hate people because of their race. I do hate the Talmudic, Cabalist religion and the Zionist goals of the NWO.

Click here to read the new code words New World Order Zionists use:
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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
My friend, the truth of the matter is this.


And further more, you are generalizing all of Israel as murderers and child molesters, which is pretty anti-semetic. Which does not give you very much credibility with this information if you're personnal opinion is biased.

~Keeper

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Israel the state is wicked. All the people who live there are not. But it is a state, an illegal state, stolen from the Palestinians, and for the purpose of being the center of the Fourth Reich. It is also a badlands where murderers go for safety and from whence they can launch wars against people, and hold the world in nuclear blackmail.

The Talmud teaches pedophilia. Those who believe this book are suspect in my mind just as people who study and believe the Satanic Bible are suspect.

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SATANIC VERSES OF THE JEWISH TALMUD
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008

Articles May Be Reproduced Only With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner
& Link To Real Jew News (SM)
Brother Nathanael Kapner; PO Box 1242; Frisco CO 80443.
Email: bronathanael@yahoo.com

Sources: The Talmud, Soncino Press, Hebrew-English; The Truth About The Talmud, Michael Hoffman Here; Jewish History-Jewish Religion, Israel Shahak Here; The Plot Against Christianity, Elizabeth Dilling Here

THE JEWISH TALMUD is “Holy Writ” for the Jews. The Talmud supercedes the Old Testament in authority for the Jews. And the Talmud is the most racist, hate-mongering , blasphemous book the world has ever known.

The Talmud was written in Hebrew between the 3rd & 6th Centuries as a codification of the so-called Oral Law that the Jewish rabbis claim was handed down from Moses. But the Messiah Jesus censored the “Oral Law” when He said, “By the traditions of your elders you make void the Word of God.” (St Matthew 15).

The English translation of the Talmud has been watered down so as to conceal from the Gentiles the “satanic verses” contained in the original Hebrew.

The “Satanic Verses” of the Talmud can be classified into 3 categories:

1) Jewish Supremacy.
2) Hatred Towards The “Goys” (Gentiles).
3) Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ, The Virgin Mary, & All Christians.


SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S
“JEWISH SUPREMACY”

* “If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)

* “If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)

* “If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

* What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

* “Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)

* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

* “Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)


SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S
HATRED TOWARDS THE GENTILES

* “The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

* “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)

* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)


SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S
BLASPHEMIES AGAINST JESUS CHRIST, THE VIRGIN MARY,
& ALL CHRISTIANS

* “‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)

[’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jewish curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’]

* Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)

* “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)

* “Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.” (Shabbath 104b, Hebrew Edition only)

* “She who was the descendant of princes and governors (the virgin Mary) played the harlot with carpenters.” (Sanhedrin 106a)

* “Christians who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” (Rosh Hashanah 17a)

JUDAISM’S REIGN OF GLAMOUR IS COMING TO AN END!

I WAS RAISED AS A JEW. Christendom has fawned all over the Jews for the last 60 years. But all of this is now coming to an end.

Christians are waking up to the fact that Judaism and the Jews are haters of Jesus Christ, Christianity, and fervent Christians who preach the Gospel.

Do you wish to get a Talmudic Jew raving mad?

Simply Tell That Jew That If He Does Not Accept Jesus Christ As His Lord & Saviour
He Is Going To Suffer In Hell!
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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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So you're a christian who doesn't like Israel. How very..cliche..

Anyway I don't believe in "God" as you religious types make him out to be. Actually just refering to God as "him" is kind of ridiculous in itself, but that's another thread.

I would like some sources for your claims, that would help ATS'ers actually research and come up with a valid response and or rebuttle for your claims friend.


I can understand that you have brough proof of religious scripture but in all honesty, translations of these ancient texts into English isn't very good proof. We have one of the easiest and crappiest languages of all human history, it's a joke really, and these texts were written in languages FAR more complex and advanced then our own.

If these things were really what you say they are, then these people were no less than cultists in which I doubt a large percentage of the Zionist population follows.

But again, if you can provide some graet sources, I'll be happy to change my mind and agree with you.

urgh, and forgive me, but really, the whole burning in Hell thing, lay off of it, we both know your mind isn't capable of understanding the concept of god or trying to figure out what IT wants you to do with your life.

We are human beings attempting to understand a power greater than we can ever imagine or comprehend, I suggest doing like me, and preaching the gospel of I don't know.

~Keeper






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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Do you wish to get a Talmudic Jew raving mad?

Simply Tell That Jew That If He Does Not Accept Jesus Christ As His Lord & Saviour
He Is Going To Suffer In Hell!


Actually that's a pretty good way to get a lot of non-Christians mad. What exactly is that supposed to prove? That people in general get angry if told they are going to hell?


Here's the thing, you don't have to like Judaism, you don't have to like people who are Jewish. They have just as much of a right to believe in their religion as you do yours. Your intense dislike of them doesn't mean that they are the cause of the worlds problems.

When you get right down to it, the cause of the worlds problems are people who preach hate against someone because they have different beliefs and/or they look different.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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Following is an excerpt from Ed Hendrie's article online
[img]http://www.antichristconspiracy.com...[/img] giving some interesting information about the Zionist infiltration into the Christian church by CI Scofield. This is dynamite reading, and everybody who owns a Scofield Bible should take note, all Dispensationalists examine how these doctrines were brought into Christendom.

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Text"The Scofield bible was funded and nurtured by World Zionist leaders who saw the Christian churches in America as an obstacle to their plan for the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. These Zionists initiated a program to infiltrate and change the Christian doctrines of those churches. Two of the tools used to accomplish this goal were Cyrus I. Scofield and a venerable, world respected European book publisher: The Oxford University Press. The scheme was to alter the Christian gospel and corrupt the church with a pro-Zionist subculture. “Scofield's role was to re-write the King James Version of the Bible by inserting Zionist-friendly notes in the margins, between verses and chapters, and on the bottoms of the pages.” In 1909, the Oxford University Press published and implemented a large advertising budget to promote the Scofield Reference Bible. The Scofield Reference Bible was a subterfuge designed to create a subculture around a new worship icon, the modern State of Israel. The new state of Israel did not yet exist, but the well-funded Zionists already had it on their drawing boards. This is not surprising when one considers that the progenitors of the pretribulation doctrine were Jesuits, and the first Jesuits were crypto-Jews. A crypto-Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new religion, while secretly maintaining Jewish practices. Ignatius Loyola himself was a crypto-Jew of the Occult Cabala. Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) and Emanuel Lacunza (1731-1801), the Jesuit priests who first conjured up the pretribulation rapture doctrine were Jews. Who was C.I. Scofield? Scofield was a young con-artist who engaged in a continual pattern of fraud and deception both before and after his alleged 1879 conversion. Scofield was a partner with John J. Ingalls, a Jewish lawyer, in a railroad scam which led to Scofield being sentenced to prison for criminal forgery. “Upon his release from prison, Scofield deserted his first wife, Leonteen Carry Scofield, and his two daughters Abigail and Helen, and he took as his mistress a young girl from the St. Louis Flower Mission. He later abandoned her for Helen van Ward, whom he eventually married.” Scofield had developed connections with a subgroup of the Illuminati, known as the Secret Six. He was taken under the wing of Samuel Untermeyer, an ardent Zionist who later became Chairman of the American Jewish Committee and President of the American League of Jewish Patriots. “Untermeyer introduced Scofield to numerous Zionist and socialist leaders, including Samuel Gompers, Fiorello LaGuardia, Abraham Straus, Bernard Baruch and Jacob Schiff.” These powerful figures financed Scofield's research trips to Oxford and arranged the publication and distribution of his reference bible. He who pays the piper calls the tune. In 1892 Scofield fraudulently claimed to have a Doctorate of Divinity and began calling himself “Doctor Scofield.” In fact, Scofield did not have a doctorate degree from any Seminary or University or for that matter any degree of any kind from any college. Below is an excerpt from an article titled “Cyrus I. Scofield in the Role of a Congregational Minister” which appeared on August 27, 1881 in the Topeka newspaper, The Daily Capital: “The last personal knowledge that Kansans have had of this peer among scalawags, was when about four years ago, after a series of forgeries and confidence games he left the state and a destitute family and took refuge in Canada. For a time he kept undercover, nothing being heard of him until within the past two years when he turned up in St. Louis, where he had a wealthy widowed sister living who has generally come to the front and squared up Cyrus’ little follies and foibles by paying good round sums of money. Within the past year, however, Cyrus committed a series of St. Louis forgeries that could not be settled so easily, and the erratic young gentleman was compelled to linger in the St. Louis jail for a period of six months. Among the many malicious acts that characterized his career, was one peculiarly atrocious, that has come under our personal notice. Shortly after he left Kansas, leaving his wife and two children dependent upon the bounty of his wife’s mother, he wrote his wife that he could invest some $1,300 of her mother’s money, all she had, in a manner that would return big interest. After some correspondence he forwarded them a mortgage, signed and executed by one Chas. Best, purporting to convey valuable property in St. Louis. Upon this, the money was sent to him. Afterwards the mortgages were found to be base forgeries, no such person as Charles Best being in existence, and the property conveyed in the mortgage fictitious.” Scofield abandoned his wife and children and refused to support them. At that time it was difficult for a woman to work and support herself and her children. I Timothy 5:8 states: “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” Scofield was a huckster and con artist who was a front man for very powerful Zionist Jews. The pretribulation rapture deception he interlaced within his bible is part of an antichrist conspiracy that is today being nurtured by other wolves in sheep’s clothing who are following in Scofield’s footsteps and working hand in hand with papists and Zionists. Steve Van Nattan, who portrays himself as an enemy of Rome and a defender of the King James Bible, has wittingly or unwittingly assisted these enemies of the gospel by promoting the 1917 edition of the Scofield Reference Bible and its Zionist pretribulation rapture corruption. “Can two walk together, except they be agreed?” Amos 3:3.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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So you're a christian who doesn't like Israel. How very..cliche..


I would like some sources for your claims, that would help ATS'ers actually research and come up with a valid response and or rebuttle for your claims friend.

I can understand that you have brough proof of religious scripture but in all honesty, translations of these ancient texts into English isn't very good proof. We have one of the easiest and crappiest languages of all human history, it's a joke really, and these texts were written in languages FAR more complex and advanced then our own.

If these things were really what you say they are, then these people were no less than cultists in which I doubt a large percentage of the Zionist population follows.


Check out my links in my original post taken from Nathanael Kapner's website, RealJewNews.com. Brother Nathanael Kapner is formerly a Talmudic Jew, now Christian, blowing the whistle on Judaism. There's others online doing the same, Michael Collins Pipe, Michael Hoffman, others. You'll have to follow up on your own. I don't know what kind of proof would satisfy you. I'm just presenting the information here. If you're not convinced and not interested to check further, I can't help that.

The Bible tells us what happened, how the Jews rejected Jesus, said "We will not have this Jesus to rule over us," and "We have no king but Caesar," and "Crucify him, crucify him." Then when Jesus rose from the dead, the Jews conspired with the Romans to say his disciples stole his body. In other words, they were aware Jesus was God, but had chosen deliberately to align themselves with Satan, just like the rulers of the world today choose to serve Satan.

I have a Bible, and I know the scriptures of the Jewish Torah, because they are identical to the scriptures in Christianity. I know where the Jews get their idea that they have the right to walk into Palestine and steal it, and I know their interpretation of scripture is twisted and wrong. They take a few scriptures in Genesis where God told Abraham he would bless those who blessed him and curse those who cursed him, and that in his "seed" all the nations would be blessed. The Jews take that to mean that they collectively are a blessing to the nations and that anybody who blesses them as Jews will be blessed and who curse them will be cursed. "Bless me I'm Jewish."

I also know about the covenant God made, and its conditions are spelled out in the book of Deuteronomy. The Jews failed to live up to any of the conditions of the covenant, culminating in the crucifixion of their Messiah, and the destruction of Solomon's Temple in 70 AD. The idea that 2000 years later they can claim Palestine as theirs is scripturally wrong. The Bible prophesies them to be in Jerusalem, but not with God's blessing, and refers to Jerusalem in the last days as "Sodom and Egypt," (Rev. 11) and speaks of the Synagogue of Satan that will haul Christians into prison.

The Bible also says the antichrist will kill all the Christians, chase them down, cut off their heads. So I don't know why Christians are supporting Zionism, considering Zionism is going to do to us what it's done to the Palestinians when the time is right.

Also as a Christian I am familiar with Zionist teachings that are taught in Christianity itself, that the Jews are the "Chosen People" and will reign in the millenium, and the Christians will be kind of looking on. The Bible says the Jews are "broken off branches" but somehow the Christians were taught that the Jews are the whole root and the entire tree itself, and that Christians are the branches growing out of the Jewish root and tree.

The Jews do not believe their own scriptures, the Torah, and most Jews don't even know their own scripture. But they are taught in the Talmud and the Cabala, which is superstition, tradition, and sorcery, straight out of Babylon and Jewish rabinnical tradition, having little to nothing to do with the Torah, the Old Testament scriptures common to both Christianity and Judaism.

This I oppose, the teachings of the Talmud and Cabala which teach Jewish supremacy, hatred to Christians, and the right to rule the world and kill the goy. I also oppose destroying the Muslim Dome of the Rock Mosque in order to rebuild Solomon's Temple, to reinstate animal sacrifice for Jewish sin, and to place an antichrist messiah ruler there, which the Bible says will worship the "god of forces" and not the God of his fathers.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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But you are basing alot of your facts on information given to you by the BIBLE, a 3000 year old un-confirmed mostly diluted fairy tale. You can't use that as historical evidence of anything friend.

I can understand how you would feel given that you are a Christian and seem to be all gun-ho on the issue of the bible.

But seriously, you're going to have to provide more than ONE single source entitled real JEW news to get me to believe anything. I want some historical data, built my scientists and anylists, not religious figures who have gotten their ideas and statistics from religious documents.

You cannot just say the bible says so therefore it is true, that is a matter of opinion.

And again, you CANNOT possible comprehend God. It's not possible for you or any other human for that matter.

~Keeper



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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But you are basing alot of your facts on information given to you by the BIBLE, a 3000 year old un-confirmed mostly diluted fairy tale. You can't use that as historical evidence of anything friend.



Since the Zionists claim their rights to own Palestine by the Bible, it is relevant.

This thread is about Zionism as the root of the problem in the Mideast, that it is a spiritual problem.

It's a spiritual problem first because the Zionist interpretation of the Torah is off-the-charts WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

It's a spiritual problem because the United States has chosen to ignore the first amendment of the Constitution which forbids Congress to establish a state religion. By backing Israel, it has done that very thing, established a state religion, or a religious state which is even worse.

If Congress were to pick a religion to bestow such favors, I would prefer they choose Christianity instead of a Satanic Talmudic Cabalistic religion of racism and murder. But instead, Christians here in America cannot sing carols at Christmas or put up a cresch or use the word Easter in the schools, but must pretend that Easter is all about bunnies and eggs and candy.

But we have to pay taxes to hand over gratus to Israel so they can wage war against the world, give them the latest weapons to do it with, and stand by silently and helplessly while they infiltrate our government with their spies, provacateur false flag attacks (9/11 and Oklahoma and USS Liberty) to get us to go to war and kill off people that Israel wants eliminated.

The Rothschilds have bought off our politicians with their corrupting money, destroyed our economy with their illegal Federal Reserve bank, and have infiltrated the fedreal government with Mossad and dual-citizen Israelis. Our current puppet president's chief of staff is Mossad, a criminal gangster from the Jewish Mafia in Chicago.

Zionism, the scourge of the world, and what will cause most of us to be killed and to enslave the rest.

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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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It's a spiritual problem first because the interpretation of the Torah is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.


And you know this how? And how is your interpretation of the Bible right? Or Christianity's? Or Muslims? Or any other religion?

It's our best guess is what it is, an attempt to comprehend in interpret the impossible.




This thread is about Zionism as the root of the problem in the Mideast, that it is a spiritual problem.


Organized Religion is not Spiritual, Spirituality=Indivuality, not self service to unseen gods/godesses. Organized Religion does not want you focusing on yourself, it wants you to focus on your god and your "belief" in that god. Don't confuse the two.




Mossad, a criminal gangster from the Jewish Mafia in Chicago.


I would love a source for that one friend.

You make alot of claims, but give me no source to verify. You quote religious text and when asked not to do so, you do so again. I'm still looking for answers.

~Keeper



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
 


But you are basing alot of your facts on information given to you by the BIBLE, a 3000 year old un-confirmed mostly diluted fairy tale. You can't use that as historical evidence of anything friend.



The Rothschilds have bought off our politicians with their corrupting money, destroyed our economy with their illegal Federal Reserve bank, and have infiltrated the fedreal government with Mossad and dual-citizen Israelis. Our current puppet president's chief of staff is Mossad, a criminal gangster from the Jewish Mafia in Chicago.


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cant argue this conspiracy theorists!



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
But you are basing alot of your facts on information given to you by the BIBLE, a 3000 year old un-confirmed mostly diluted fairy tale. You can't use that as historical evidence of anything friend.


I appreciate your love for peace and the value you place on each human life, that we must live and let live.

I disagree with your assessment of the Bible. This is an opinion you hold, and I'd be curious to know how you can be so sure you are right about that.

Much of the history of the Bible has been proved. There was a worldwide flood, and the geological evidence shows there was. The Red Sea parting has been verified,
[img]http://english.sdaglobal.org...[/img] the remains of Pharaoh's chariots discovered in the mud, and the place where the Hebrews crossed discovered -- an anomaly of geography that is higher in that place. I can post you a link on that which is fascinating, showing pictures and diagramming how the whole thing happened, with pictures of relics of the chariot wheels and such fossilized in the mud.

Jericho was found to be as the Bible described, the walls collapsed.

I'm not an apologist for Bible history. I'm just a dot connecting generalist. I go by what I know, things I have researched very carefully, and hop around from one big stone to the next, briefly glancing over the small stones, sometimes taking time to examine them more carefully, but not remembering details, keeping my eye on the destination to make sure I hop on a secure stone, not a pitfall or a pothole.

But I do know the Bible is not like other spiritual book. It's different. It's definitely God's Book, definitely a supernatural book describing evens in history that God wants us to know about, many pieces that all fit into a big puzzle to tell a complete story, ending in Revelation, the book of prophecy that describes what is happening to us this very day, and what will happen in the future. Some have said that fully a third of the Bible is about prophecy, some fulfilled and some coming to pass before our eyes.

I do trust the Bible. There are parts I don't understand, but that's okay. I have enough to deal with the parts I do understand. It is my guidebook, keeps me straight, helps me sort things out so I don't get bogged down in bunny trails. I consider anybody who does not know, is not familiar with the Bible, has a big hole in their education, because the Bible is the foundational book of life. The early settlers had only a Bible to learn from, to learn to read and to guide them. It served them very well.

The Bible answers the question, better than any other spiritual book: Why am I here and where am I going when I die? Anybody who doesn't have answers to those questions will flounder and end up in the rocks.

Jesus is a real person who existed in history. He claimed to be God, and he was crucified. He rose bodily from the dead, and spoke with his followers for 40 days after that before ascending into Heaven. The Bible tells us he will come back again, at the end of the Fourth Reich reign of the Antichrist, to save the world from utter destruction. The Bible says when Jesus comes back he will prevent the destruction and killing of every person on the earth. Not one human being would be left alive. That's how horrible the time is that's coming upon us now.

This earth is just a testing ground, and the next life is going to be worth the trouble, the suffering. While we are here, we must reject the Dark Side, stay with God, with Truth, and do right. Jesus is our champion, our savior, the Bible says, who loves us and gave himself for us. He is also Creator of the Universe, and will come to judge the earth and destroy the antichrist with "the brightness of his coming." The hairs of our head are all numbered by him, and he knows our every thought. He holds the atoms together that our bodies are made up of, and he puts life into our bodies. Life comes from God, and can never be made in a laboratory. It is a special thing that comes only from God, his gift to us, and it belongs to him, not to us.

Hope this answers your question. This forum is about Zionism. I offer you my analysis here of the opposite of Zionism, which is Christianity. Jesus said, My kingdom is not of this world, and, I go to prepare a place for you. The Jews think they can have Heaven on earth, by way of ruling the world from Jerusalem.

The problem is, it will not be Heaven. It will be Hell on Earth -- or as the Cabalist belief goes: As above, so below.

This is the basic tenet of Satanic belief: As above, so below.

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posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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The root of the problem. is the other interdimensional beings fighting for their piece of humanity. Five races are involved.

Don't ask me who is responsible for the jewish/Zionism role.But the god in the bible is obviously doing well to decept humanity.

We are being manipulated by these races since the beginning of time. I just hope we will be able to see in the Forth and fifth dimensions and become aware and learn to break free. Let the human spirit guide us.

We need to separate these fixed beliefs, of jewish is bad, muslim is bad. It's all just a mere way of controlling and putting labels onto things.

It's about control and power.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by universe attracts wisdom
The root of the problem. is the other interdimensional beings fighting for their piece of humanity. Five races are involved.

We are being manipulated by these races since the beginning of time. I just hope we will be able to see in the Forth and fifth dimensions and become aware and learn to break free. Let the human spirit guide us.

We need to separate these fixed beliefs, of jewish is bad, muslim is bad. It's all just a mere way of controlling and putting labels onto things.

It's about control and power.


People aren't bad in and of themselves. Ideas and beliefs can be either right and true or evil and wrong. Zionism is evil and wrong, all occultic Satanic worship is evil and wrong. Choosing the Dark Side is wicked and utterly foolish. Muslim belief is close to Christianity and recognizes Satan and his matrix of lies for what they are.

The interdimensional beings you speak of are evil spirits, otherwise known as demons.

The are are not five kinds of spirits, but only two, or at least as pertaining to who they serve. The angels are spirits who are ministering to us on behalf of God, and the demons are attacking us on behalf of Satan. Satan also has human minions on the earth that he makes pacts with, that in exchange for helping him corrupt and destroy the earth he will give them power and wealth and fame.

NASA is made up of Satanists and Freemasons. I was listening to Texe Marrs the other day talking about Jack Parsons, the one who invented the jet propulsion fuel for NASA, how he was a Satanist, studied under Aleistar Crowley.

The Black Ops government trafficks with demons. I mean they sit down to dinner with these creatures, and I won't tell you what they serve them for dinner. They plot with these creatures, and work with them on macabre breeding experiments in the D.U.M.B.s. These military bases do house amazing high tech spacecraft, but it was all built here on earth, did not come from some planet off by the star Sirius or whatever. Many of these demonic spirits are confined to live deep in the ground, cannot come out, but the Bible says they will be released from the "bottomless pit" to torment the earth. There is some restraining force now holding them prisoner deep in the ground. They are vicious, ugly, scary creatures. They are subject to Jesus, and those who believe in Jesus can stand in his authority and withstand these creatures. Others will be literally eaten alive by them.

There are no aliens visiting us from outer space. We never went to the moon. These people are like magicians. They control people by lies and deceit and magic. You cannot believe anything they say. They do believe their own lies to a degree, but they also deliberately lie, create illusions. They take great pleasure in pulling the wool over our eyes and plotting our demise and enslavement.

They own the planet, the media, the culture, the schools, medicine, you name it.

The idea that mankind is going to jump a notch or two in its evolution is New Age eugenicist lies from the Illuminati, fitting in with their Darwinian "survival of the fittest" claptrap. It's X-man nonsense, the "new and improved" latest most up to date theory, revised and updated change to the theory of evolution, namely "punctuated equilibrium," that since the fossil record shows no gradual evolution, that all hte life forms are complete and as they are, no graduated changes whatever, let's revamp our evolutionary theory to say evolution takes place in great leaps.

That's all it is, another wacked-out lie from the eugenicist devil worshippers, that if we can just kill off most of the planet, these goyim with all their low vibrational thoughts (especially Christians who are so mundane and stuck in reality), then the rest of the "special ones" can jump ahead in their evolution and turn into X-men.

It's a lie, and what's behind it is to get most of us killed. Watch Alex Jones documentary Endgame online. Google it.

Check out Georgia Guidestones online, American Stonehenge, announcing the elites goal to reduce world population to 500 MILLION and maintain it there.

and catch this also where they were VANDALIZED


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