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Originally posted by pieman
i'm going to go looking for internet gangs looking to take down ATS and i'll report back on my findings
Originally posted by Clark Savage Jr.
Are you, Nef, making an assumption of a conspiracy towards this site based on more than just trend spotting? Do 'johndoe1' and supporting poster 'janegreen2' have the same IP numbers, etc.?
These trends. Is it possible they are just trends and NOT an organized conspiracy? Sometimes, nut-jobs just encourage other nut jobs on this medium. Do you have any reason OTHER than just trend spotting to suspect this? As a mod you are much more qualified to know than the average member.
Originally posted by Boston Tea Party
Can you consider, just for a moment, that it is possible that your T&C could use revising and that a different approach on some of these issues would be beneficial for everyone involved?
Originally posted by neformore
Originally posted by carslake
A Conspiracy against ATS
WTF! Carefull with your accusations neforemore your generalising, so if we don't agree with the way ATS is going were in a conspiracy against ATS.
No one has said that.
Originally posted by eyeforalie
then please answer me honestly when i ask you why members that posed an opposition to your view are now banned from the site?
I didnt see any T & C violations.
And you said you wernt here to point fingers or assemble a witch hunt?
Originally posted by Zepherian
I'm sorry, but to me your post seems like debate moulding. You're taking a few choice examples and framing them as a conspiracy against ATS, when in reality it is ATS, scared of the atention those subjects would cause, that is trying to hide them away.
Specifically the two very hot topics are Zionism (in as much as this conspiracy theory would branch out into revisionist history of the holocaust, Isreal and possibly even organised religion) and drugs (in as much that it would branch out into drug advocacy because of the alleged spiritual enlightenment and natural connection attained by the use of psychadelics).
I won't comment on the two topics, I'm mearly listing them as the elephants in the room ATS apparently dosen't want to deal with. And a mountain of rhetoric won't change the fact that you guys are scared stiff of the implications of dealing with these topics, as they are very close to the source of all conspiracy and indeed political and economic power. It's where things start getting "unconfortable".
Unless I'm just being paranoid of course, after all, this is ATS.
Your call ATS, either you let the debate evolve naturally or you attempt to shape them to avoid facing your own fears. So, deny ignorance?
Edit: All my posts are my personal opinion, no organised anything here, just somebody who knows that things are not as they seem and who would like to see them as they are. Take it for what it's worth, I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, unlike the ATS policy, which is to force people to avoid certain subjects. You are in no way victims here, at least not of the membership.
[edit on 28-2-2009 by Zepherian]
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Without any specific information as to which members you're referring to (not that it would matter, we typically don't discuss individual bannings), but being the person who terminated the accounts, I can provide an answer. These were people who already had some apparent deep-seated animosity toward what we do, how we do it, why we do it, the fact that we do what we do, or even the color shirt we're wearing while we do it (that's sarcasm, but the point is, for some nothing we do is acceptable).
Then there are the simple ones. The "blazes of glory". Again, they come via deliberate T&C infractions, stuff that is very basic - usually from people who claim to be new to the site but seem to know an awful lot about the rules here. Sometimes they latch on to a particular mod who has done/said something to them. Its never their fault that they cause a problem, its ATS's fault....
I didnt see any T & C violations
They may not have occurred in this thread, or the violating posts were removed (which is often the case).
...essentially ended up illustrating a whole host of problems via posts filled with the typical vitriol about "selling out, censorship, government control, the death of freedom speech, etc..." in spite of the fact the real issues were clearly expressed and had nothing to do with any of that.
What makes you think the author of this thread is interested in a "witch hunt?"