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Actually in a sense it is, a group of members, the plan is the stated mission of the site and the operation is the T&C.
Originally posted by TheOracle
I just don't want to see it fall into this trap of correctness,
Originally posted by DangerDeath
reply to post by roadgravel
Second, how would you know positively about your point and ATS.
I don't understand what you mean here. Can you please clarify?
Originally posted by pieman
i really think it's not civility that's causing the problem, it's trust. the "us and them" culture rearing it's head at the moment needs to be nipped in the bud now, before it becomes an anchor that drags this whole community to the sea bed.
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
It seems to me like it's more like you (the moderators and adminis) don't have rules on how to discuss things so you're afraid of it getting out of control. ]
The “fair game” policy, for example, is responsible for the harassment of numerous scientology critics over the years. As L. Ron Hubbard said, concerning suppressive peoples (those who are not in support of scientology):
“The homes, property, places and abodes of persons who have been active in attempting to: suppress Scientology or Scientologists are all beyond any protection of Scientology Ethics, unless absolved by later Ethics or an amnesty ... this Policy Letter extends to suppressive non-Scientology wives and husbands and parents, or other family members or hostile groups or even close friends.”
Originally posted by roadgravel
Originally posted by jfj123
...Just for the record, they don't need to set up a website like this to collect IP addresses. The government "snifs" the entire internet for keywords and phrases , flags them with IP addresses for analysis. So putting up a single site where only a small percentage of the total internet populace goes, is to inefficient. ...
That is similar to stating it is inefficient to infiltrate of group to learn more about their plans or methods of operations.
Monitoring traffic specifically to and from a site for analysis would be more efficient than just looking for keywords randomly from traffic everywhere if there are certain topics of interest. The hit count most likely would be higher. I bet both methods are used. Why look in the oceans a for certain of tree when it would be most likely found in a forest.
Just because they can doesn't mean it is the preferred method.
Originally posted by jfj123
Not to sound overly paranoid because usually I'm the serious skeptic but I am wondering if part of these attacks could be by scientologists ??
Originally posted by samureyed
So are we under attack from an organized group of offline members with the agenda to shut down ATS, or are we just seeing a rise in registrations from lurkers that had their buttons pushed a little harder?