Alright, I rarely ever post on ATS... I'm usually a tad shy. I hope that doesn't automatically label me a "sleeper" agent or something of the
like. However, I suppose its inevitable. *sigh*
To the OP:
It was probably not the greatest of ideas to create this thread so soon. I realize you didn't want a "witch hunt", but when you write things like
this, especially from a seat of power, no doubt that's what will happen. It really looks like: "Don't question us or you're an enemy agent!" This
is a tactic used by cults, secret societies, religions, etc, etc. (I'm sure you know that.)
It's just one of the many reasons why your users now feel betrayed. There is a standard that a lot of ATS members hold this website and its
moderators to. Unfortunately, this thread (and the ban) have conflicted with those idealistic standards. Thus, paranoia and rebellion. It's like
dealing with your parents, really.
To those for "free speech":
The truth of the matter is that the topic of drug use was indeed already against the rules. When you agreed to the rules, you agreed not to
the rules. ATS, as much of a paradise as its touted to be, is still a private website owned by private citizens with their own goals and
agenda. (Meaning: They don't want ATS to go down the toilet. :O Whoda thunk that?!!)
I know that one side of me wants SO to announce, "If they want to label us as a drug site, then so be it! Ooo-rah!" Or something lame like that. But
the other side of me says, "Who are we to keep this site to ourselves? There's enough "truth" and mind opening topics for everyone."
"But they're supposed to be about denying ignorance!" You say. This is true but not to the extent that some of you seem to assume. They're not
allowing anyone to talk about the psychological reasons or "possible benefits" behind bestiality, are they? How about incest? Child porn? Nope.
Nope. And nope.
There are many topics which we're not allowed to discuss here and its not censorship. "Deny Ignorance" has no guarantees tacked onto it. It
doesn't mean, "We want you to know how to light up" or "We want you to know how to pick a lock". It means, "We inspire you to think outside the
box." You can say its a small box, but the bottom line is: It's not your website.
No, I don't think they've given us the whole truth. No, I don't like it either. I really do think this could have been handled better by everyone,
but in the end, who am I to demand anything of the amigos? There are no guarantees on the internet. There's no Santa Clause either.
Back on topic--- I don't think we're being infiltrated by organized groups of professional disinformation agents or anything. I believe people have
a lot of time on their hands, and when one troll comes about, many will follow. Although, I suppose it is possible. ATS is a large website and
influences a large population of Americans. It could be rival sites, special interest groups or just really bored teenagers.
As a former mod to a now dead forum, I myself witnessed a lot of "troll bombs". In many cases, these were secondary accounts of active users. It was
always baffling to me how they could be so nice on their main accounts, then turn into such... well, trolls. I'm not implying anything here, just
stating a fact.
On other forums I frequent nowadays, there are periods of increased troll activity. Perhaps its like a cycle? Like a sort of troll "time of the