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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I have a seventh grade education for one reason.
Originally posted by manganesejolt
Let's just come out and admit that right now, and it will make all our lives much simpler.
When I was at Yale, I was part of a number of little groups, and one group was mentored by this old man (a retired professor in the history department) whose views really opened my eyes. He said "People who are Awake owe no more to those who slumber than the quick owe to the dead".
Some people spend so much time worrying about the "rights" of those who are too lazy or dull witted to catch on that they wind up making themselves miserable. Those of us who have wings were meant to soar, not to crawl along the ground with the rest of the cattle.
Many of the "conspiracies" painted in such sinister colors (the NWO, etc) will really be blessings for those of us who think and feel in full vibrant color and what becomes of those who see grey and eat gruel is of no consequence to us. All will be treated humanely so long as they cooperate, but those of us who have talent and insight will be rewarded. I tell you the truth.
It's like the so called "economic crisis". Those of us with any kind of foresight have been making the right kinds of investments (dumping real estate, buying precious metals) for some time now. If the hordes need to be brought to their knees for their own good, it's none of our affair. Similarly the use of religious and social issues to render more malleable the teeming masses is no vice, in the end it's for their own good.
I just want those of us who are Awake to feel no shame in it, to luxuriate in the radiance of full consciousness and to have faith that all works for the best of those who deserve it.
Take it from the longhaired libertarian.
Rock 'n roll.
You have a seventh grade indoctrination. It is clear you have much more than 7 years of education. Many people think that education begins and ends with an institution, but many of us know better. I never judge someone by their degree. I have met many with advanced degrees that can memorize and spout out what they have learned and cant think their way out of a relatively simply problem on their own. Much like the educated sorts who got us into this lovely economic mess we are in, as you point out so nicely.
The OP claims to be a Yaleie. This may or may not be true, but regardless, an old school Yaleie would have some sense of noblesse oblige. In this case, though, the OP just seems to want to rub everyone's nose in his own superiority. I must therefore conclude that the OP is either a liar, or undeserving of a place at a distinguished institution which he claims to be a member of.
Originally posted by Zepherian
This just in: university mind slave tries to justify the status quo. Other university mind slaves agree with him.
This thread is nothing but a pathetic ego infused atempt to justify selfishness. The OP is probably feeling dead inside, having lost the true meaning of his humanity.
People, that are people, owe it to each other to help the community. People, that are parasites (and here we have most of the supposedly 'higher educated') just leech off the system.
Here's the shocker, if your philosophy wins your world will die too. Because parasites can't survive without the host they invariably kill. If the NWO order scenario wins it won't last 1000 years, the tyranny will be so great it will collapse under it's own evil in just a few short generations. You cannot build a civilization on selfishness, it's a negative energy, it consumes. Just looking around with open eyes shows this. That the OP can't see it makes me think he's not as awake as he thinks he is, just leaning towards the dark side because it makes him feel better than everyone else, which is one of the root psychological problems of the current social meltdown.
If the NWO wins then we're back to rubbing sticks together.
Sorry for the harsh words, but you're grasping at straws here.
Please, your Calvinist Covenant of Grace colonization and new world slavery philosophy may be a fine example of your own ego rendering itself as a predestined aspect of an Elect favoured by Divinitive grace, but my friend, you are wallowing with the very pigs you deem asleep. Your self inclusion into the realms of the Awake or Elect is that only. Self inclusion. Not predestined. You are a slave to an ideal for yourself. You have realised you do not have to wallow in its slavery, but instead of breaking these very bonds and rallying your brethren to arms you would rather replace those bonds with the impression that you are part of the Elect.
The Preterite and the Elect are and always will be separate. The preterite, the sleeping, the cattle, they're doomed. The irony is they will never be able to understand the noble words you use and they'd tear you apart if you tried to make them see.
In man there is a fear that he will disperse, waste, disappear if he doesn’t guard his possessions, including the one most valuable possession – knowledge. There also exists in him great unclearness in regards to his abilities and powers to influence and help others, namely: where is the measure there? It is true that love is that measure, but love is limitless and inexhaustible, and it is not in everyone. If love expresses itself too much within human world, what will happen?
How can a man live lonely, and even if at some moment it appears quite possible, and not feel the connection with others, the essential, the inner one, through the same force that makes him? Because love doesn’t act from the outside on people, but from inside. From inside it melts passions and defenses.
Still, in human world, it is as if this force is almost totally disabled.
In Mahayana Buddhism there exists an idea, idea that during life awakened man does not elevate himself into the abstract nirvana, but keeps living on this Earth and do everything to help beings who suffer, so they would also overcome suffering. Such man is called Bodhisattva. Of course, any Christian who experienced divine love, does not differ from such “awakened” Buddhist – the future Buddha.
This idea, however, provokes lots of skepticism due to the fact that everyone must make his own effort to overcome the suffering, and someone who had already overcome can only show the way to the others, not more than that. So what sense does it make to delay change of habitat, if there is no real motivation for that? And in an awakened man there really exists no motivation, a man alighted with knowledge, i.e. love, has no more business with dualities such as good-evil or life-death.
But, maybe this is a false dilemma, maybe there is a motivation, but in those who still suffer, maybe their very hope is that motivation which moves Bodhisattva? Maybe those who suffer lend motivation to those who are already free? It seems that there exists some invisible interaction.
And it seems that this is so. Because the one who knows and possesses love has no more fear for himself, and understands that the difference between him and the others is nonessential. The veil of individual life melted before the force of love and revealed others as one and the same existence, so Christian in every man sees Christ, the common essence.
Friend, do not forget
hidden in grove
They say for Basho that he was a loner, dominant feeling in his poetry is exactly that „sorrow of loneliness“. He lived as a monk, although among people, surrounded with his students. He would hit the road alone, write, and then return. His poetry radiates so much love that this discussion of mine slowly nears the solution – if we are looking for a way by which someone can help others to overcome their prejudice, then it is clear that poetry is by all means one of those ways. And the source of poetry is poet who unselfishly radiates it.