Do these mysterious stones mark the site of the Garden of Eden?

reply to post by smokingman2006


interesting... but i dont think it is the garden of eden. that was just thrown into the mix.

i personally think that Gan 'eden is yerushalayim.

Eden is currently under water just south of Basra. I used to live in Kuwait and one of the rivers that the Bible mentioned has been discovered going west in Kuwait from the Persian (Arabian) gulf. One has to think of a pre ice age time when water levels were lower, and of course and the area of the Persian gulf was pretty much dry land.

Read the Thiaoouba Prophecy and you will know that we have only been on Planet Earth for 1.3 million years. You can verify all the books sentences using Dr.Hawkins Applied Kinesiology. We are the aliens to this planet. We did not originate on Earth. Great Find and I will add this to my list of Evidence backing the Validity of Abduction to the 9th Planet (published as ThiaooubaProphecy Now).

I personally do not feel this is the Biblical Garden of Eden. However, I find it interesting the people buried the entire site. That sounds like they conjured up something they knew was dangerous and felt the only way to break the stronghold was to bury their temples. It's possible they buried it out of fear.

Originally posted by groingrinder
I do not understand why they say it was DELIBERATELY buried. It seems to me that the flood would have washed sediments into the depression to bury it.

Because they are archaeologists. Their science is excavating and studying the layers of dirt and rocks for signs of human intervention. Believe me, they can tell the difference between sediment and fill dirt.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
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If there was a cataclysmic fall of prehistoric civilization and humanity fell back into barbarism, that may help explain why the site was buried.

I suspect people would of blamed the site and what it represented in face of catastrophe. Also bizarre is the evidence of mass human sacrifice at a near by site.

I suspect there is more to this story, the fall, than we yet know. I personally think its far bigger than just the transition to agriculture.

The first thing I thought of regarding this site is a people scorned. Imagine that there was a place, for argument's sake, like Atlantis. Now imagine that, for one reason or another, this civilization went away, yet all the people did not. Well if the sites like this were all connected to a place like Atlantis, it would seem to me that the people remaining would have been either left behind or of a different caste, where they felt put off by these Atlantis (or whatever culture) people leaving them. They would have been furious. They would have been wanting to rid themselves of it ever even existing (think of us in this day and age wanting to rid ourselves of the Federal Reserve and all of it's locations). They could have gotten together and decided to bury the locations because they didn't want their kids to wonder about the other culture. It'd only take two generations for the relics to become forgotten. I just imagine an old guy telling everyone else how wrong those people were and how horrible their culture was and that for the sake of the children, they were going to bury the sites to make sure the kids weren't adversely influenced by them, or made curious about these horrible people that did them wrong by leaving them behind or something.

It's just a thought. When I read that story, it was the first thing that popped into mind. I'm probably wrong, but it's an idea.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by John Matrix
It's what the greed of humans fueled by capitalism does to the enviroment.

Capitalism has nothing to do with global warming or pollution levels.
Communist China has some of the worst air pollution rates in the world.
...
Communist and socialist countries care more about output then the environment. Don't blame pollution on capitalism. Blame it on humans in general. And don't blame global warming on humans. The natural cycle of global warming may or may not be aggrevated by humans. That has yet to be determined.

I have to agree with John on this one. Capitalism is whats doing the damage. Capitalism = greed. Thats where it got its name from: capitalising off of the poor/weak/stupid/influential.

Before you cite China again that is clearly not a communist country. The fact that they have a president, ffs, is proof enough. Then theres the little matter of the free market allowing fatcats to get rich. Communism? Lenin must be rolling in his grave!

Very interesting find. Thanks for posting this.

I have to agree with AshleyD....it would seem that this would of been buried out of fear for some reason. Possibly by a people that intruded and didnt understand the culture, therefor fearing that these stones held forbidden knowledge or power.

Love ancient stuff....star and flag.

LV

Göbekli Tepe was already found in 1964 and detailed excavations started from 1994.

This is not a recent discovery or such like the daily mail makes it to be.

In the ancient civilization forum, there have been numerous threads on Göbekli Tepe already.

the entire find is magnificent, and will be even better as they find more at the site, i only hope that they keep us informed as to what they discover. i feel there are entire chapters missing from our collective history, and until we discover who we were, how can we know who we will be?

Originally posted by iesus_freak
reply to post by smokingman2006

 

interesting... but i dont think it is the garden of eden. that was just thrown into the mix.

i personally think that Gan 'eden is yerushalayim.

I'm with you on that. The sacrifice of Isaac was on the same mountain as the crucifixion of Christ. It would seem that the location should be the same as the fall of Eve.

Eden is used to sensationalize the article, IMHO. There is no evidence of that. It is interesting to note the many animals on the rocks, which are not present anymore in that area.

The date of the stones seems old, however a brief examination of ooparts on the internet shows man has left his mark for 400 million years in sophisticated design.
www.s8int.com...

PS: Looks like a 9 11 on the side of one of the pillars in the article.


[edit on 28-2-2009 by Jim Scott]

Bam' Right in the kisser!!! (of the atheists)

Carbon-dating shows that the complex is at least 12,000 years old, maybe even 13,000 years old.

Carbon dating? on the rocks? i would have thought they would use something else to date the rocks, specially for old rocks like the ones described here, but who knows, it bothers me thought, most people think everything can be dated by using radio carbon dating, which is not true , funnily enough, that's how we can find when someone is claiming more than they should

The article is very misleading on this and other aspects, like all this eden talk, which in reality has nothing to base it on.

But anyway, it sounds interesting, but i guess i'll have to look somewhere else for more serious approach to the site excavations and a more respectable source for info..




[edit on 28-2-2009 by Kaifan]

Originally posted by Kaifan

Carbon-dating shows that the complex is at least 12,000 years old, maybe even 13,000 years old.

Carbon dating? on the rocks? i would have thought they would use something else to date the rocks, specially for old rocks like the ones described here, but who knows, it bothers me thought, most people think everything can be dated by using radio carbon dating, which is not true

, funnily enough, that's how we can find when someone is claiming more than they should

The article is very misleading on this and other aspects, like all this eden talk, which in reality has nothing to base it on.

But anyway, it sounds interesting, but i guess i'll have to look somewhere else for more serious approach to the site excavations and a more respectable source for info..




[edit on 28-2-2009 by Kaifan]

Carbon dating isn't correct. The carbon level of the earth was altered when the Flood happened

[edit on 28-2-2009 by Salvatore_Rubberface]

Originally posted by volafox
the entire find is magnificent, and will be even better as they find more at the site, i only hope that they keep us informed as to what they discover. i feel there are entire chapters missing from our collective history, and until we discover who we were, how can we know who we will be?

I agree with you, but I think it's bigger than chapters. I think there are whole books of knowledge about our past that we simply don't know anymore because they were either burned or buried. I think that without knowing the full past we also won't know our fullest potential.

I think a lot of people have had a feeling that there's a lot more to all of this than we know. Finding out that a huge segment of our population was removed (regardless of reason) and that we're the descendants of the few who remained would be big enough in and of itself (and would explain SO much), but finding evidence of those that were removed (and perhaps some of their knowledge) would be huge.

Like you, I do hope there is more to this site and more knowledge can be obtained. Just once, I'd love for archeologists to stumble upon a buried library filled with knowledge and have it NOT be suppressed.

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Kaifan,

If you do find more detailed information regarding this dig, I'm sure we'd all love to read it. I've googled it, but haven't found anything substantial. Hopefully you'll have better luck. The carvings in the stones are fascinating.

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I just went to the links - what is the Urantia book??

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about the carbon dating not being correct - curious. how would this have been altered by the flood?