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posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 07:36 PM
reply to post by dodadoom
Hello my friend...educate yourself...

The original Thirteenth Amendment (no title of nobility), approved by 13 of the 17 states March 12, 1819 and thereby ratified, is the last proper draft of a de jure Amendment but is not recognized by the corporate (de facto) UNITED STATES.

The original 13th Amendment prohibits "Esquires" (Attorneys) from holding positions of public office.

The Fourteenth Amendment for all intents and purposes does not exist. On March 28, 1861 Congress adjourned sine die and never has reconvened de jure.
US continues to be in a permanent state of national emergency since March 9, 1933, and possibly as far back as the Civil War
--Senate report 93-549 (1973)

On April 15, 1861,
President Lincoln reconvened Congress under the Executive branch by proclamation (number 1): "I do hereby, in virtue of the power in me vested by the Constitution, convene both Houses of Congress."

Ceasar (President) is now in full control even over the Senate (Congress).

A Presidential dictatorship has been imposed on U.S. citizens. The sad thing is, "Most American people do not realize it yet."

The corporate government created in 1871 will continue to exist as long as:

"state of war" or "emergency" exists (War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terrorism, War on Iraq, etc.),

the President does not terminate "martial" or "emergency" powers by Executive Order or decree, or

the people do not resist submission and terminate by restoring lawful civil courts, processes and procedures under authority of the "inherent political powers" of the people.

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 07:48 PM
reply to post by Hx3_1963

Can't hurt! Thanks again!
I hate to put up a one line post with no fun links!

So here is one I like, these explain alot of the problems
in this country.
It has some potty talk and some have seen it before,
but good for a laugh on a saturday nite nonetheless!

[edit on 28-2-2009 by dodadoom]

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:12 PM
reply to post by dodadoom
Last one...for now...I promise!!!

The Real Thirteenth Article of Amendment
to the Constitution of the United States -
Titles of Nobility and Honour

The suppression of the T.O.N.A. now boils down to a fight, then and now, over the control of the currency and speculation in the land and resources of the United States, by foreign agents and multi-national corporations, willingly and willfully aided and abetted by the legal establishment and the judiciary of the United States.

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes the laws..." Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812)

"Governments do not govern, but merely control the machinery of government, being themselves controlled by the hidden hand." -- Benjamin Disraeli Chancellor of the Exchequer; Prime Minister of Britain (I am trying to source this quote)

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat - (1801-1850) in Economic Sophisms

"It is easy to understand why the law is used by the legislator to destroy in varying degrees among the rest of the people, their personal independence by slavery, their liberty by oppression, and their property by plunder. This is done for the benefit of the person who makes the law, and in proportion to the power that he holds." - Frederic Bastiat - (1801-1850) in The Law

"This is a government of the people, by the people and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations." - U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes

"The balance of power has shifted in recent years from territorially bound governments to companies that can roam the world." - Global Dreams: Imperial Corporations and the New World Order

When the Thirteenth Titles of Nobility and Honour Article of Amendment was made to "disappear", it did not vanish all at once but it was, rather, replaced by stages and by degrees. This gradualism was simply ignored by a legal establishment and judiciary loyal to the international banking establishment, and the privileged "nobility" of the rich, both of the United States and of Europe, and the common man knew nothing of it. The fact cannot be ignored that it is with the willingly purchased aid of both the judiciary and the legal establishment that the rich and powerful bend the acts of government to their selfish purposes. Jefferson warned of this.


America's growing "aristocracy" depends on the growth and maintenance of a Servile State. Slave whips went out in 1865, but no matter - far more sophisticated ways of control have been, and will continue to be, developed as long as evil remains profitable and is contested by nothing more than the wishful thinking of the ballot. See Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

It has long been insisted that America's fundamental problem is more legal than political and that unless the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are respected as America's fundamental legal source, We, the People are doomed to continue suffering under the tyranny of the "aristocracy", and the lawmakers and the judges.

We the People must stop seeking remedy by squandering our substance on elections. Wishful thinking will avail us nothing. Instead, we must unite in the demand that the uncorrupted Bill of Rights and the Real 13th Amendment be respected. To do this, we must take back our courts from those who have assumed a constitutional authority they do not rightfully possess. Government, its agents and the increasingly greedy establishment they serve, will never willingly respect the unalienable rights of each of the People unless the People force them to do so.

It is a misfortune born of human nature, that, when profit born of evil remains unchecked, evil will be nurtured by the profiteers with the substance of their victims.

We, the People, certainly have to build the immediate case ourselves, but as to the rhetoric - what could we possibly say that the Founding Fathers themselves haven't already said as eloquently and profoundly as it could possibly be said?

According to James Madison:

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they can be promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow." - The Federalist No. 62

"Another effect of public instability is the unreasonable advantage it gives to the sagacious, the enterprising and the moneyed few, over the industrious and uninformed mass of the people. Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue; or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change and can trace its consequences; a harvest reared not by themselves but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow citizens This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that the laws are made for the [benefit of] few and not for the many." - Ibid

"The greatest calamity, to which the United States can be subject, is a vicissitude of laws, and continual shifting and changing from one object to another, which must expose the people to various inconveniences. This has a certain effect, of which sagacious men always have, and always will make an advantage. From whom is advantage made? From the industrious farmers and the tradesmen, who are ignorant of the means of making such advantages." - Ibid, Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 11 June 1788

It has been said that there are three types of people:

1. Those who make things happen.
2. Those who watch things happen, and
3. Those who wonder what happened.

The vast majority of mankind find themselves in the last two categories. Most have "eyes to see" but don't "see" what is happening. Most have "ears that hear" but don't "understand" what IS happening - LOCALLY, NATIONALLY OR INTERNATIONALLY

Which Category do you fit in? Are you willing to help educate yourself and your fellows to what has been and is happening?

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:14 PM

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Dbriefed

Wow, there's a lot of real bored, neo-con sore losers huh??

They don't want a stimulus package and it looks like the republicans are deliberately trying to sabotage the package.

Just curious but whomever is not in favor of a stimulus package, what would you do to fix the country?

freeeeee maaarkets. lemme say it again. free markets. Stuffton less taxes. Give 10 million to the first designed motor that can move a cool looking sports car 600 miles on one charge. Put taxpayers money into a corp to produce them and kick the ass out of the rest of the country.

Take trains, and make them BULLET TRAINS yaay! remember those inventions long long ago?

rescind all bank bailout money to do so.

build Geothermal PPlants from for cheap electricity. tell the runners they cannot charge over 6 cents and 2cents. period. Rule of law.

give out the Earth4energy guide for free, and instead of stimulus rebates, have everyone at the IRS send pre built solar panels to every house.

give out books on shaker gardens. tell people to learn how and get crackin!

restrict foreign trade (yes i took economics) for anything that is not USEFUL. China sells a bunch of stuff, at our expense (go to chinatown in philly and you'll see what I mean).

legalize marijuana and other drugs. All of america now gets the tourism of Amsterdam!

take over CNBC CBS etc. let the Quakers be the ony peple who control the enws outlets. They will be fair, some of the most fair people I've ever seen.

Encourage simple living!

government can buy back these "foreclosed home" and give some houses away for FREE FREE YES FREE. Thats our charity, give it to citizens who have no police record. thakns for being good for 40 years, heres a house on the govt (if you struggle a lil bit) but this is the one and only time.

Set up some Shaker style farms of delicious thigns like strawberries, Spinach lettuce, blueberries, blackberries, and carrots and make prisoners work them. they can eat some too! It would be delicious. those who dont want to labor can stay inside jail but those who wanna get out and be good can farm! 7 hour days, 4 times a week, nothing extraordinary. Food canbe given out in cities, or anywhere really.

I'm done, anyone agree?

[edit on 28-2-2009 by vonholland]

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:24 PM
reply to post by redhatty

Excellent post on page 3, redhatty.

I really hope Madison gets involved. The atmoshpere is reall charged and
There are signs all over the campus area about ending the FED. thats where the root problem is and people are starting to realize,
The FED loans money to the treasury At Interest
WE are taxed not just for services no. Our taxes are to pay the interest to the FED for borrowing their money It is a revolving trap from which it is impossible to be free of. If ALL our money is borrowed at interest. No matter how much more they give us, it will have to be paid back plus interest..

We are all slaves...

P.S. Ron Paul has a bill to kill the Fed

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 08:31 PM
Dang fellers, ma head is gonna explode now!
Why you gotta bring in lawyer talk anyway!
I thought I had more room in my comfort zone!
With foreign agents and aristocracy and multi
national corporate somethun' or a' nuthers.
I'll stay in my own private idaho, I think it's safer.
Thank you for trying to awaken my scaredy cat a** anyway!

[edit on 28-2-2009 by dodadoom]

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 09:02 PM
Comparing the cost of the bailout to the cost of the Iraqi war trivializes the cost of these ill-conceived and counter-productive bailout and stimulus plans. In six months we've spent $3.8Trillion dollars, annual rate is 2x that, and to put it in perspective lets use Billions ($7,600Billion).

Annual costs
2008 GDP = $14,960Billion
Iraqi war 2008 = $648Billion (4.3% GDP)
Bailouts (6mo x2) = $7,600Billion (51%GDP)

If evenly divided (which it won't be, the weak, lazy and stupid will get refunds):
The Iraqi war costs each of the 300,000,000 people in the U.S. $2,160.
The Bailouts costs each of the 300,000,000 people in the U.S. $25,333.

Which is going to tick you off more? Or are you not worried because only the 'rich' will experience a tax hike?

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 09:11 PM
reply to post by David9176

I know it's crazy to think that they could be doing this intentionally..but when i think about it.

Believe me it is definately intentional.

In Sept. 14, 1994 David Rockefeller, speaking at the UN Business Council,. "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

Skipping ahead to the present we find stories of “JP Morgan Chase to become Megabank” and “Analysts say JP Morgan Chase (the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds) will emerge from the bank collapse as the big winner”

Yeah I think we were setup for this big time.

posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 09:38 PM
No, No, No! No More please! You are making TOO much sense!

You guys are all wrong anyway, I tells ya!

Its those aliens I tells ya! Ya, thats it! Thats the ticket!
Um, in your highly-coming from me-esteemed opinions,
do you think (hypothetically speaking that is) it may explain,
like all the bank mergers(takeovers) thingy jiggers of late?
Wouldn't that also consolidate power better and move things further
along with the benefit for said parties involved? I've long wondered? Anyone?

P.S. My head still hurts I took an asburn so I should start
feeling better anytime now! But, please go easy on me. K?
MY tiny mind has severe limitations comprehending such big subjects!
Thanks for your continued support and patience!

[edit on 28-2-2009 by dodadoom]

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 12:36 AM
Los angeles and San Deigo seem the closes to me 5 hours away boooooo!!!!


posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 12:39 AM
You don't have the right to protest because IT IS NOT YOUR CASH they are spending. Once you give up the right to your money, it's all over...get over it already...

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 12:47 AM

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
You don't have the right to protest because IT IS NOT YOUR CASH they are spending. Once you give up the right to your money, it's all over...get over it already...
I hope that was sarcasm. They spend before they collect.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 04:11 AM
they got one in cincinnati baby! YAY, i'm so going! i was wondering if anyone was doing anything like this, and lo and behold! thank you for posting this! now i just have to decide what to put on my poster. ^_^

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 05:02 AM
The power brokers are betting our complacency will be greater than our desire for social revolution. It will take unified effort to pry the steering wheel from the hands of those that would drive us off a cliff to sell our bones for more power.

Unified effort. Knowledge, spirit, understanding, action. "We the people", it is said, "decided..."

There are many puppets in the puppeteers cardboard box stage. They pull more out when they sense we are bored of one, only to screw their hand into the next one too. The shows the same, and seeing it is unfortunately the very steep price of admission.

Some are not taking the free tickets any more. The price is too high.


posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 07:06 AM
I'm so glad to see America getting off her rear and telling it like it is! We don't want socialism. We don't need to be controlled. I've mentioned this book before, The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins. I would suggest reading a copy. Go, Ron Paul, for wanting to rid the nation of the "federal" reserve. Why would any president turn over our money to a private group of people. Duh, Woodrow, why?

Keep up the tea parties, America. I am so proud of y'all!

I wonder how many of these protesters voted for Obama!?

Land of the free, home of the brave ... that's us! Let's keep it free!

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 07:29 AM
I was just thinking about a great way to make some easy cash but the problem is most of us would get shot for having such bumper stickers on our cars. Oh well it was a plan, not a good one, but a plan.

I have a bad feeling no matter what we say in protests though it wont really matter. They will just turn there backs, and keep on doing what they are doing. Maybe we could go with one that says Honk if you hate your government? Oh well that still may get us in jail.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 09:59 AM
reply to post by vonholland

I agree with you!

The government should be helping our citizens become more slef reliant - this abilout does the opposite. It promotes continued poor economic plans.

The liberals don't even have confidence in this thing - But the Obama supporters will argue for it night and day even though Obama himself has't read it all.

This stimulus is a joke that my grandchildren will be paying for.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 10:05 AM

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
You don't have the right to protest because IT IS NOT YOUR CASH they are spending. Once you give up the right to your money, it's all over...get over it already...

This makes no sense. And I don't think you're being sarcastic. It is our money. We didn't forfeit our rights to it. We will not forfeit our right to peaceably assemble, and we will not get over it.

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 11:31 AM
reply to post by SphinxMontreal

You don't have the right to protest because IT IS NOT YOUR CASH they are spending. Once you give up the right to your money, it's all over...get over it already...

I think perhaps you should learn just a bit about exactly who money belongs to, as well as just what the "money' in your pocket really is.

Everyone should watch this!! It helps to shed some light on just how deeply we really are enslaved. Truly frightening stuff

posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 12:57 PM
Doesn't really look to be that many people. A few thousand at best. Not like the over 120k in Ireland recently. Or anything from South America, Korea, or Europe when they become active.
A few thousand divided by twenty cities is a few hundred in each city. Not really a big protest.
Still better than nothing.

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