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Media Bias? No way! Love Obama? Hate Bush? Are you biased?

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:50 PM
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What if you substituted Obama's name for Bush's with everything that is going on? Would you feel different about the situation? Are you willing to admit it?

He's right...and it also goes both ways. Just switching names can switch the whole point of view of some.

Can you see it? Can you see your own bias...that is...if you support one or the other?




[edit on 27-2-2009 by David9176]




posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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Come on...it's been several minutes since this was posted.

I figured at least a dozen Fox Bashers spitting drivel all over this thread by now.




[edit on 27-2-2009 by lernmore]



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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Makes absolute sense though doesn't it?

There would be RAGE among liberals right now if Bush was doing this...and it would be justified...but since it's a democrat/Obama...

"Let's give him a chance!!!"

And it goes the other way as well. If Bush were really doing this...there would be republicans out there defending this as well.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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I actually think more and more people are coming to realise what bare faced liars both the parties are.After they spew rhetoric about left or right wing agendas,they meet up later kiss and cuddle sip champagne and laugh at the fact they are getting away with it all.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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Fox news is playing you for a fool David and yet you allow yourself to fall for it. Glenn is as I said a neocon mouthpiece, what a way to "talk about media" bias on fox news of all broadcasters. Why the hell do you think those in fox news and limbaugh are calling for civil distress? Isnt it obvious? Theres a new democratic majority in right now with a new democrat president and they are trying their verybest even at the expense of america herself to make things out as if they are that bad.

You dont have to agree with Obama and the Democratic congress, but to fall for this stunt the rightwing media is pulling... I mean one would think ATSers are above that?

If its were Bush? Well Bush has been in office for 8years, his already lied and lead us into a $600 billion, $200 million a day war and Glennboy here is comparing that to an administration barely into a month?

Your allowing yourselfs to be fooled. Dont come to me and tell me your got nothing for either party david, you guys are full of it.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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If its were Bush? Well Bush has been in office for 8years, his already lied and lead us into a $600 billion, $200 million a day war and Glennboy here is comparing that to an administration barely into a month?


Oh no...don't try to escape this one SG.

If this was Bush would you be supporting what has happened the last month?

Give us the truth now....



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 09:31 PM
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And so far Obama has spent 36 billion dollars a day, and your point?

The fact is this is hypocrisy at the highest levels. If this was Bush the mods would have to be deleting threads there would be so many started if Bush did this.

It is BS, your talking about fear mongering FOX and the Neocons, but have you ever though that people change? In fact that is what you voted for right change?

Yea look at how well that is going.

So answer the question would Bush's name not be on the front page of every newspaper and liberal media outlet if Bush had done any of this.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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Where are all the replies?

Bush and Obama supporters....how would you feel right now if the names were switched?

What if this was really Bush doing this? Would you be supporting what is happening right now or would it still be ok because you think all of this spending is the right thing to do?

Do you admit the media bias?

THe same goes for Bush supporters...if this was Bush..would you still HATE what is happening...or would you defend it?

Same questions apply to all....

Anyone want to give some feedback on this?



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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The similarities between the way folks feel about both Bush and Obama are like this,
One is hated by many and nothing he does can ever be right.
The other is loved by many and nothing he does will ever be wrong.
This in itself is pretty darn scary.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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Yeah...and look...

No one will admit it...

This thread was completely ignored.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 12:46 AM
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Read the Bankers Manifesto if you haven't yet.
The two sides are fighting BY DESIGN!
The best way to steal their money(thus, them)is by
getting them to fight with each other! Distraction, Hello.
S & F

[edit on 28-2-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:06 AM
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As a self proclaimed unbending, unyielding conservative capitalist... let me make this clear... I was mad as hell that Bush started this TREASONIST act just a few months before he left office because I knew this was gonna happen. I was mad as hell when the Republicans spent like a bunch of drunken whores, and said so on other sites I post on. I was mad as hell when the Republican party chose John McCain as our Presidential wannabe. I am mad as hell that this outrage is happening to our country, party be damned!

And as far as FoxNews goes... You libs obviously don't watch FoxNews or you would not spout that absolute nonsense I have seen posted within this thread. Sure, most of Fox's opinion anchors are Conservative with a Conservative leaning... Yet the absolute opposite is true of MSNBC, CNN, and PBS, to even suggest otherwise is a bald face LIE! Now, you may not like Fox because they don't share you're socialist views. However, Do ALL Media outlets spin the news so as to fit how the government wants it spun, YES! Every single one of them does... Does that mean everyone who works for them is in their pockets... Not only no, But HELL NO! I mean, come on... wake the hell up your damn selves!(plural)

Glenn Beck, even though I only discovered the man even exists three months ago, there is no way in hell anyone can honestly say he is in the pocket of the NWO'ers, not that I am convinced they exist at the level some on this site believe... Let alone Alex Jones.... However to even suggest Glenn Beck is even remotely "in" with that crowd or movement, is in a word... STUPID!

To the OP... Of course socialist are ignoring this post... The Truth is their greatest enemy! And if you ask an honest question they will run as far and as fast as they can.

What is happening to this country is an absolute outrage regardless of which party is doing it, and people are waking up to this sickness, this madness! I blame President Bush for starting it, and now I hold all of Congress and this new President completely responsible for continuing this socialistic destructive evil that is spreading this sickness all over this country. Thankfully people are starting to shout no more! I just hope its not to late.

--Charles Marcello



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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It's funny,
You all talk as if there were a real difference between having Bush put us deep into the hole and Obama digging it deeper.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by badgerprints
You all talk as if there were a real difference between having Bush put us deep into the hole and Obama digging it deeper.


To The New York Times and The Washington Post there is a huge difference. That's Beck's point.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:43 AM
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It really doesn't matter who exactly is president... The fact that the PTB have you focused on government at a national level is a testament to the control they can exert over the masses...

The Federal government has very little to do with your day to day life... The governments with the most impact are at the local level...

But, for some reason, most people are focused on national level politics, and regard local politics as mostly menial...

Without the support of local governments, federal would have very little power... people fail to recognize this fact, and typically neglect politics at the local level...

The result is that your local politicians perhaps are not the best qualified individuals to be in office, and thus, TPTB have effectively used passive controls to slightly cripple the effects of the local governments to try and exert influence over the federals...

Thus, they have successfully separated the populace from effecting change.

as far as liking/hating bush or obama, the real trick is keeping people from figuring out that it doesn't matter. However, clever media tricks and propaganda has proven very effective in keeping everyone arguing over which president is better, who sucks, which congressional representative is doing what...

All the while, the real power to change how we live, and where the united states is heading is left to the local politicians, who were elected to office by a slim minority of the population, as most people don't get out to vote in the local elections...

The real action is happening in your city hall and state legislative bodies.



[edit on 28-2-2009 by nj2day]



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 06:20 AM
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I'm not American, but i much rather Obama. I see the last century as being a major turning point in terms of issues dealing with white sepremecy, occupation, sexism, and salvery etc.. It's nice to watch it all evolve and have a coloured U.S. president who if far more well spoken and intelligent than the former.

I hate Bush because of how dumb he was. It was like he was always drunk and couldn't string a sentance together. There was even a word invented to describe how dumb he is because no word in the English language could explain it.

The term Bushism is a neologism that refers to a number of unconventional words, phrases, pronunciations, malapropisms, and semantic or linguistics errors that have occurred in and defined the public speaking of former United States President George W. Bush

en.wikipedia.org...

Yet people still followed and voted for him?

I don't think it's bias, but that's just my opinion.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
Bush and Obama supporters....how would you feel right now if the names were switched?

What if this was really Bush doing this? Would you be supporting what is happening right now or would it still be ok because you think all of this spending is the right thing to do?


A few months ago, when it actually was Bush doing this, I thought that Government intervention was a bad idea. What I didn't get at the time, was the severity of the problem.

David, your posts in Global Meltdown are outstanding. You seem to understand that we're in big trouble. The problem is, you look at things from a ideological perspective, which can distract us from the bigger picture (we all do this, ALL of us). Both Bush and Obama are willing to spend until our nation is dead. This is because if they don't, our nation is dead. The mortgage problem and bank insolvency is self-reinforcing. The banks lent money to people who couldn't make the payments; ergo, the banks ran low on money; ergo, the banks couldn't lend to businesses; ergo, the businesses either had to cut-back, had to go into bankruptcy, or couldn't secure start-up capital to even get off the ground; ergo, more people had to default on their mortgages because they either lost their jobs or couldn't find new jobs (or both); ergo, the banks became even more insolvent....

So, both President Bush and President Obama are throwing hail mary's and praying that it works. Both men are clearly scared (Bush essentially admitted it, and many people noted the "holy crap, what did I get myself into" look on Obama's face after he won the election and was breifed on the things that they don't tell the public).

I'm not happy about any of this, but I'm a lot more upset with Reagan and Clinton than I am with Bush and Obama.


Do you admit the media bias?


I think that it's silly to talk about "media bias" in an era of the internet. I also think that it's silly to talk about media bias in an era of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Glenn Beck (although I actually like Glenn Beck, a lot). The door really swings both ways.


THe same goes for Bush supporters...if this was Bush..would you still HATE what is happening...or would you defend it?


I think that it's safe to say that anybody who supports Bush after the past eight years, would find a way to support him for any reason. These are the people who will support a Republican just because he's a Republican (even if he doesn't act like a Republican). I've come to the conclusion that roughly 50% of the population just picks a "team" and roots for it no matter what, just like they would a sports team. 25% of the population goes Republican, and the other 25% goes Democrat. This is why, in general terms, CNN applies a Democratic bias and Fox News applies a Republican bias.


[edit on 1-3-2009 by theWCH]



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:00 PM
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Anyone that pays any attention to any MSM, and that includes Fox, is an absolute fool; needing to prop up some illusionary ideology, designed, manufactured and perpetrated for the control of authority worshiping morons. And you bought it!!

It gets closer to 1984 everyday.

It's a brave new world, welcome to the monkey house.

F&S

[edit on 1-3-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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First of all, thanks for your post. Nicely done.




The problem is, you look at things from a ideological perspective, which can distract us from the bigger picture (we all do this, ALL of us). Both Bush and Obama are willing to spend until our nation is dead. This is because if they don't, our nation is dead.


I agree. We all look at this that way. But as you have stated, regardless of our ideology, we are faced with an inevitable outcome. What i believe is that the sooner we stop this spending charade, the sooner we get rolling again, get this country back on it's feet and return it to it's former glory. I just believe we are making the pain worse.

I don't want this to happen...none of us asked for this. It's a bad situation for us all....it's a shame.



I think that it's silly to talk about "media bias" in an era of the internet. I also think that it's silly to talk about media bias in an era of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Glenn Beck (although I actually like Glenn Beck, a lot). The door really swings both ways.


I agree...i guess the point of this post was to show people's (not the media's) bias. As you stated people are willing to look beyond the faults of their candidate or party...even it's extremely similar to what they were complaining about the other side doing. I just wanted to point it out.

As for the 3 you named, Glenn Beck is the only one I like and it's not because i agree with everything he says..which definitely isn't the case.

I just like that he is getting out truthful information...no matter how much it hurts to hear or how scary it may seem to be.



I've come to the conclusion that roughly 50% of the population just picks a "team" and roots for it no matter what, just like they would a sports team.


I think you are right here as well. My father is one of these people. I actually ranted on him last night about it.
He votes Republicans across the board in all elections, and he has no idea what most of them stand for.

He just thinks...oh Republicans are for Christianity. That's it. That's his whole reason for voting for them.

It's sad.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:17 PM
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Some media habits never die, which is why the message in this photo still applies.




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