Feds Grant Eminent Domain As Collateral To China For U.S. Debts!, page 4
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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 06:00 AM by chiponbothshoulders
Well,I don't know about the author's credibility,or if this is the reason that so many states are trying to declare sovereignty.....but one thing that I do know for a fact is that nobody pays any attention to the CONSTITUTION who would be limited by the CONSTITUTION.

The CONSTITUTION is a set of limits that the GOVERNMENT has to work within,it is not for you and me,it is to protect our rights from being infringed upon by them and their bogus,self serving legislation....

If the rules of the CONSTITUTION were adhered to by the GOVERNMENT,yours and my rights would not be trampled upon as they are so frequently.

As far as I know,from what has been happening for the past 70 years,it is not entirely unplausible that this could actually happen.]

Enjoying the benefits offered by governments has it's price.

That price is your freedom,feeding a wild animal only makes it weaker,if you feed it for long enough it forgets how to get it's own food,it forgets how to survive.

See any parallels,anything that may resemble something that resembles what may be similar to the truth....?

Nah!

Maybe it is the turn of the chinese to awaken the sleeping giant.

Or maybe the sleeping giant has become too fat,lazy,weak and weak-minded to resist this if it were true.

America:Ship of Fools

You get what you pay for,unless of course,you take out a mortgage to get it.

None of you own any of your property anyway,because if you did you would not be paying rent on it..(property tax)..

This may actually be occurring,but y'all won't notice until it is too late.

Oh yeah,they have been committing acts of high treason since they gave away this country to the federal reserve by the way,that was the first one....

Study....Study....Study

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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 06:06 AM by Rigel
Originally posted by Ian McLean
Why would eminent domain need to be invoked to effect this? The federal government already owns and controls about 30% of the land in the United States, directly:


From:
strangemaps.wordpress.com...
Data source:U.S. General Services Administration, Federal Real Property Profile 2004

That's 65% of all land west of Denver.



Speak of hating Socialism !



Maybe America's biggest problem is its infinite hypocrisy...




Edit : With her 69 % State-Owned Country, I understand better why Madame Palin pretended being somewhat a specialist of Russian policies !

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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 06:43 AM by nwosigns
reply to post by Stargate5150



The constitution has been relegated to a talking piece. You only need to look at all the legislation passed and being considered to understand that.

All the presidential directives, HR 45, Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, and many more...

One thing to ponder is, that the Chinese have been adamant about not being at risk with any further "investment" into US Treasuries, so HOW did the US convince them that it was safe to Loan the US the money?

What collateral or guarantees were given?

What kind of collateral does the US have?
Military Stockpiles
Gold
Stock
US Treasuries
Resources (oil, gas, coal, etc.)
People Resources
Land


We won't trade our military, Gold I doubt we have any in Ft Knox and even if we did it would not be enough to cover all the old debt, much less the new debt.

Stock, and US treasuries are the same, perceived value on paper.

Resources, we import most of our oil, Natural Gas we are a major producer, but dangerous to ship, coal and other resources or minerals are not enough to pay off huge debts.

People resources, maybe later when they own us outright.

WHich leaves LAND. THe richest resource that the US has.

You know, it kinda reminds me like a big game of RISK.

All I know - is that POSSESSION IS 9/10 of the LAW!


reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 06:44 AM by ACEMANN
Originally posted by WatchNLearn
I doubt this is real, however a note to all the posters saying "we will revolt..go to war, fight blah blah blah.."

Just have a peak at some
statisticsabout the Chinese army. If China took over, and used their army, the USA would be wiped out in about 24 hours. A week later nearly every American home and business would be occupied by Chinese.

Have a nice day


Hmm interesting you mention that good point. Food for thought:

FAS DF-5 Stats

FAS JL-2

FAS DF-31

Also check out the WMD section in the link from the above poster. They have approximately 400 warheads (combined strategic and tactical). Although the DF-5 would be a threat, the SLBM force of JL-2's and the land based DF-31's are the main threat. DF-31's would reach the western coast only. Launch prep 10-15 minutes.

In other words, A major Chinese offensive would most likely involve a nuclear first strike, as their overwhelming ground forces would be unable to attack the mainland USA without crippling the air defense and ground defense networks of the mainland USA.



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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 07:15 AM by sadchild01
Originally posted by mattifikation
This is Hal Turner's crap. For those that haven't figured out what that means... it means it isn't real.

However, if it was real... well, it sure would be interesting to see that fight.

China might have over a billion people in its country, but only a tiny fraction of that is in their army. The actual trained military of China is only slightly larger than that of the U.S. - between 2 and 3 million people, depending on what source you go by.

That sounds like a lot, but by contrast, thanks to that Second Amendment that so many people would like to see destroyed, there are an estimated 80 million households in this country with a grand total of 260 million guns. With a population that just reached over 300 million, we even have enough people to field those weapons. That's 86 armed American combatants for every ONE of them.

Yeah, China has a billion people. But they don't have a billion soldiers, they don't have a way to get the soldiers they DO have over here, and they sure as heck don't have a billion guns.

Their only solution would be to nuke us, which would;
1. Make no sense to irradiate land they were trying to take over for their own use, and;
2. Result in a nuclear retaliation that would mean the end of China, if not mankind.

BUT, as has been stated...

This is just Hal Turner's crap.



there are an estimated 80 million households in this country with a grand total of 260 million guns. With a population that just reached over 300 million, we even have enough people to field those weapons. That's 86 armed American combatants for every ONE of them.


they just need to cut off the logistics(food,electrcity,power) to american cities and towns , and soon people will surrender due to starvation within days, its as simple as that .


Their only solution would be to nuke us, which would; 1. Make no sense to irradiate land they were trying to take over for their own use, and; 2. Result in a nuclear retaliation that would mean the end of China, if not mankind.


end of China and USA , as China has powerful bioweapons that effectively decimate american population and 50-100 nukes that can reach continental USA


reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 07:45 AM by TNT13
reply to post by sadchild01



Regardless of Arms of either side. The United States landmass is far

larger then China and our population is spread out, never is a war with

nuclear weapons ever ok but if it came down to both sides China has

easier targets and much easier to find condensed population. Although

China may own us, we're like their brat child that does whatever it wants

and when push comes to shove, the little immature kid won't hesitate to

push the button. There's no winner in a nuclear winter but I'm sure we'd

live long enough to see China sink into the ocean. Hopefully we can

rejoice in the fact that since there has never been a global nuclear/bio war

there never will be, hopefully they aren't that stupid.



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