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Feds Grant Eminent Domain As Collateral To China For U.S. Debts!

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 04:32 AM
Not possible. The U.S. Constitution does not bestow that sort of authority upon any branch of the federal government. An attempt to do this by those currently in government would be high treason.

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 04:37 AM
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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 04:57 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah right. The chinese come into america and say they now own this land.... I'd love to see how the common american man woman and child would react. With guns i presume such as you can have my lands over my dead body.... And i'm sure the peoples land who was to be taken would go head-hunting in washington...

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 05:07 AM
I am Hawaiian and I will fight beside my fellow american regardless of creed.They will not take the Islands of paradise without a fight.I hope that is a hoax....May we fight to the death!!!!!

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 05:42 AM
Well, if this is real, of course, the feds have no such authority to grant such a thing any more than they have the authority to claim bankruptcy which I believe they have many times. However, with Illuminati favorites like Arnold in California, they would have confederates to lead the way in an effort to cultivate a buy in to the idea for people and other state governments. Time will tell. Just another illusion.

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:00 AM
Well,I don't know about the author's credibility,or if this is the reason that so many states are trying to declare sovereignty.....but one thing that I do know for a fact is that nobody pays any attention to the CONSTITUTION who would be limited by the CONSTITUTION.

The CONSTITUTION is a set of limits that the GOVERNMENT has to work within,it is not for you and me,it is to protect our rights from being infringed upon by them and their bogus,self serving legislation....

If the rules of the CONSTITUTION were adhered to by the GOVERNMENT,yours and my rights would not be trampled upon as they are so frequently.

As far as I know,from what has been happening for the past 70 years,it is not entirely unplausible that this could actually happen.]

Enjoying the benefits offered by governments has it's price.

That price is your freedom,feeding a wild animal only makes it weaker,if you feed it for long enough it forgets how to get it's own food,it forgets how to survive.

See any parallels,anything that may resemble something that resembles what may be similar to the truth....?


Maybe it is the turn of the chinese to awaken the sleeping giant.

Or maybe the sleeping giant has become too fat,lazy,weak and weak-minded to resist this if it were true.

America:Ship of Fools

You get what you pay for,unless of course,you take out a mortgage to get it.

None of you own any of your property anyway,because if you did you would not be paying rent on it..(property tax)..

This may actually be occurring,but y'all won't notice until it is too late.

Oh yeah,they have been committing acts of high treason since they gave away this country to the federal reserve by the way,that was the first one....


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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:03 AM
This could easily be true. PD51 gives the executive branch (the president). control of almost all resources in the US.

The Chinese, are being unrealistic, if they are taking guarantees of this sort.

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:06 AM

Originally posted by Ian McLean
Why would eminent domain need to be invoked to effect this? The federal government already owns and controls about 30% of the land in the United States, directly:

Data source:U.S. General Services Administration, Federal Real Property Profile 2004

That's 65% of all land west of Denver.

Speak of hating Socialism !

Maybe America's biggest problem is its infinite hypocrisy...

Edit : With her 69 % State-Owned Country, I understand better why Madame Palin pretended being somewhat a specialist of Russian policies !

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:25 AM
Ponder this: (1)...A LEGAL FICTION cannot own property.

Or can it?,and if so,how did this come to be so?

When rule (1) does not apply ...refer to rule (1)

Go figure......?......

You people better wake up!.

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:27 AM
Could we just ask China to accept in trade the cities of LA and San Fran. Neither one are worth a hoot and are suspected to be the front runners of the contest to determine where God should stick the enema that is necessary for California.

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:43 AM
reply to post by Stargate5150

The constitution has been relegated to a talking piece. You only need to look at all the legislation passed and being considered to understand that.

All the presidential directives, HR 45, Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, and many more...

One thing to ponder is, that the Chinese have been adamant about not being at risk with any further "investment" into US Treasuries, so HOW did the US convince them that it was safe to Loan the US the money?

What collateral or guarantees were given?

What kind of collateral does the US have?
Military Stockpiles
US Treasuries
Resources (oil, gas, coal, etc.)
People Resources

We won't trade our military, Gold I doubt we have any in Ft Knox and even if we did it would not be enough to cover all the old debt, much less the new debt.

Stock, and US treasuries are the same, perceived value on paper.

Resources, we import most of our oil, Natural Gas we are a major producer, but dangerous to ship, coal and other resources or minerals are not enough to pay off huge debts.

People resources, maybe later when they own us outright.

WHich leaves LAND. THe richest resource that the US has.

You know, it kinda reminds me like a big game of RISK.

All I know - is that POSSESSION IS 9/10 of the LAW!

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 06:44 AM

Originally posted by WatchNLearn
I doubt this is real, however a note to all the posters saying "we will revolt..go to war, fight blah blah blah.."

Just have a peak at some statisticsabout the Chinese army. If China took over, and used their army, the USA would be wiped out in about 24 hours. A week later nearly every American home and business would be occupied by Chinese.

Have a nice day

Hmm interesting you mention that good point. Food for thought:

FAS DF-5 Stats



Also check out the WMD section in the link from the above poster. They have approximately 400 warheads (combined strategic and tactical). Although the DF-5 would be a threat, the SLBM force of JL-2's and the land based DF-31's are the main threat. DF-31's would reach the western coast only. Launch prep 10-15 minutes.

In other words, A major Chinese offensive would most likely involve a nuclear first strike, as their overwhelming ground forces would be unable to attack the mainland USA without crippling the air defense and ground defense networks of the mainland USA.

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:00 AM
Also - their arsenal could be a little more than the 400 quoted, but it is still far below the level needed to obliterate the USA. Besides, why would you irradiate the land you need as collateral for your debt?? The Chinese could NEVER "take over" the USA. We could deal a devastating blow to their country. Keep in mind the population density. Much higher casualty rate than the USA for each weapon detonated. They have much more to loose pulling a stunt like that.

As an aside - I have no problem with the chinese people. They are some of the most hard working, kindest people you could meet. It turns my stomach reading about the hardships they face every day.

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:03 AM
Actually, upon second thought, the Chinese are probably more interested in other property. Tibet, for now. Later, if a conflict starts with Iran, we will have to sell......Taiwan.

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:15 AM

Originally posted by mattifikation
This is Hal Turner's crap. For those that haven't figured out what that means... it means it isn't real.

However, if it was real... well, it sure would be interesting to see that fight.

China might have over a billion people in its country, but only a tiny fraction of that is in their army. The actual trained military of China is only slightly larger than that of the U.S. - between 2 and 3 million people, depending on what source you go by.

That sounds like a lot, but by contrast, thanks to that Second Amendment that so many people would like to see destroyed, there are an estimated 80 million households in this country with a grand total of 260 million guns. With a population that just reached over 300 million, we even have enough people to field those weapons. That's 86 armed American combatants for every ONE of them.

Yeah, China has a billion people. But they don't have a billion soldiers, they don't have a way to get the soldiers they DO have over here, and they sure as heck don't have a billion guns.

Their only solution would be to nuke us, which would;
1. Make no sense to irradiate land they were trying to take over for their own use, and;
2. Result in a nuclear retaliation that would mean the end of China, if not mankind.

BUT, as has been stated...

This is just Hal Turner's crap.

there are an estimated 80 million households in this country with a grand total of 260 million guns. With a population that just reached over 300 million, we even have enough people to field those weapons. That's 86 armed American combatants for every ONE of them.

they just need to cut off the logistics(food,electrcity,power) to american cities and towns , and soon people will surrender due to starvation within days, its as simple as that .

Their only solution would be to nuke us, which would; 1. Make no sense to irradiate land they were trying to take over for their own use, and; 2. Result in a nuclear retaliation that would mean the end of China, if not mankind.

end of China and USA , as China has powerful bioweapons that effectively decimate american population and 50-100 nukes that can reach continental USA

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:22 AM
Don`t underestimate the Chinese ........ particularly their patience.

When Chinese Leader Chou En Lai , was asked what impact he thought the French Revolution had on the modern world he famously replied " it is too early to tell "

So when asked what are the repercussions regarding the Chinese leverage over the U.S.A you should also answer ... "it is too early to tell".

Taiwan should be very worried .

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:39 AM
Annexing any land of the United States is UN-constitutional!!!!!!!!!! First our

2nd ammendmant is constantly badgered with laws, then the tenth and

now this? I hope this isn't true but on the bright side what freedoms have

you lost lately?

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:45 AM
reply to post by sadchild01

Regardless of Arms of either side. The United States landmass is far

larger then China and our population is spread out, never is a war with

nuclear weapons ever ok but if it came down to both sides China has

easier targets and much easier to find condensed population. Although

China may own us, we're like their brat child that does whatever it wants

and when push comes to shove, the little immature kid won't hesitate to

push the button. There's no winner in a nuclear winter but I'm sure we'd

live long enough to see China sink into the ocean. Hopefully we can

rejoice in the fact that since there has never been a global nuclear/bio war

there never will be, hopefully they aren't that stupid.

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 07:50 AM

Originally posted by ziggy1706
U guys n gals wanna hear something weird? To me it is....
When i was about 20, i told my mom abuot the NWO and what i learned forma friend. She told me once, she had one of those realistic dreasm yuod swear yuo were their, their were chienese troops dressed in communist troop uniforms all over our ciity.... she tookt he dream as a premonition.. this is WEIRD

well, if they wear black uniforms with a red stripe running down the pantleg.. I've hidden from those suckers in many of my dreams...just can't get a good look at much when you are hiding under a bed!

ya, know, if this were found to be true and made public, well......our foreclosure problem would get alot worse! would you continue to pay for a house that you know will eventually be handed over to the chinese?

posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:11 AM
reply to post by dawnstar

One way to protect our Sovereign land from any takeover by a foreign nation or organization is to re-introduce the American Land Sovereignty Protection Act (which was introduced in the 106th and 107th Congress, but never got signed into law) in the Congress and get it signed into law, as is being discussed in the following thread:

People attending the nationwide tea parties, starting today, are planning to discuss about it.

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