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Is anything faster than the speed of light?

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posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:59 AM
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In 'A short History of Nearly Everything' Bill Bryson tells of an experiment undertaken by CERN circa 1998 in which it was calculated that communication between atomic particles had been shown to be faster than that of the speed of light. An article on the research done by CERN was apparently published in the science journal 'Nature' and then the science community apparently went quiet about it.

If light is not the fastest thing in the universe, but physicists are unaware of what is the fastest thing - would that affect the ability of physicists to be able to correctly calculate what makes the universe and everything in it tick i.e a theory of everything.

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:06 AM
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I believe there are things faster than light, it's just that we've not got anything that can measure them.
I also have trouble believing that light speed is not relative, and I'm sure I've read that some scientists somewhere have managed to slow down light too.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:07 AM
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German scientists supposedly broke the speed of light.Im sure there was a thread about it on ATS i read but i cant seem to find it. www.telegraph.co.uk...

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posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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Neutrinos have been allegedly made to go faster than light. Also, around the time of the Big Bang light and everything else travelled faster than light. Also, hummingbird on speed.

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posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Apparently, Bad News travels faster than light.

If you want proof, sit on this website and look out for new posts.
Good stuff takes faarrrr longer for people to bother posting than the doom and gloom.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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the speed of light is constant in a void, light can be slowed down adn sped up under certain condition but not in a void

so light at the time of the big bang travelled at the same speed it does now

and general relaitivity states noting with mas can travel faster then the constant, somthing without mass could theoretically travel faster then light but unless it had a real impact some form of force on the universe knowing and measuring them wouldnt matter



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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gravity can be faster than light...that's what black holes are



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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Gravity doesn't travel.
Its a force.. like when a magnet picks up stuff not attached to it.

A force so strong it can bend light.
It doesn't actually go anywhere.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Technically, nothing in this "dimension of time" can move faster than the speed of light, as anything moving faster than it will cease to move through THIS timespace, because time would slow to a stop and then "who knows?".

If you're traveling at the speed of light, and you turn your headlights on, the light leaving your bulbs is traveling away from you at the speed of light. This same light is also traveling the speed of light compared to a "relatively" static observer. This is the basis of relativistic physics. So, nothing really moves faster than the speed of light. Time slows for you, while you're traveling the speed of light. So, that when you return to your point of origin, or slow down, you have passed through less time than everything that was "relatively" stationary. So, this is also the basis for claiming that we can, indeed, travel into the future, but cannot travel into the past. But, this is still unexplored scientific territory, as no object has ever been accelerated beyond the speed of light (compared to our relative Terran observation), so, we therefore can't even begin to theorize about what happens at those speeds. You may be able to accelerate past any observers relative speed of light. Nothing seems to be stopping us. But, most scientists agree that you would not be in this "time". Of course, at those relativistic speeds, time would pass, just as it does now, and your personal observation would be quite indescribable, as observable light from this timespace warps to fit your speed. I believe this is why light is both a particle and wave, because it NEEDS to be in two places at once. One particle lighting your way, ahead, and another copy of that particle shining onto the observer's retina.

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posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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Heere's a little paper for your consumption titled ;Oscillations of Faster than Light Majorana Neutrinos: A Causal Field Theory
enjoy.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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Quantum Entanglement is faster than the speed of light.
Quantum Entanglement is when two particles are close to each other and they become entangled. Entangled means they act the same. So when you entangle two particles and separate them then screw with one particle, no matter how far the other particle is in the universe it will do the same thing as its entangled buddy.


Speed of light is around 670,616,629.2 miles per hour.

So if you entangled two particles and separated them to say 700,000,000 miles apart , if you mess with one particle, the other instantly knows what the other is doing and does the same thing.
So that would prove of "something" going past our known speed of light. And the same would apply if the two particles were on each side of our visible universe. Now that would be an enormous speed for particles to travel information .

hope this helps.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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Or. maybe this will tickle your fancy? Possible existence of faster-than-light phenomena for highly accelerated elementary particles

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 02:04 AM
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My wife just walked by, looked at the subject line, looked at me and said,
"Obviously none of them have ever had sex with you..."



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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Well if extraterrestials can bend space to travel, wouldn't that be traveling faster than the speed of light?

Because it will shorten the distance from where they are to where they want to go.

but the real distance travelled, and the time it took to travel in an equation, means it travelled faster than the speed of light


maybe these particles they tested bent the space around them making it appear to travel faster?



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by wiredamerican
reply to post by BetweenMyths
 


Quantum Entanglement is faster than the speed of light.
Quantum Entanglement is when two particles are close to each other and they become entangled. Entangled means they act the same. So when you entangle two particles and separate them then screw with one particle, no matter how far the other particle is in the universe it will do the same thing as its entangled buddy.


Speed of light is around 670,616,629.2 miles per hour.

So if you entangled two particles and separated them to say 700,000,000 miles apart , if you mess with one particle, the other instantly knows what the other is doing and does the same thing.
So that would prove of "something" going past our known speed of light. And the same would apply if the two particles were on each side of our visible universe. Now that would be an enormous speed for particles to travel information .

hope this helps.


Exactly right. I just read the scientific america artical on it.

And to the OP, I thought it was interesting that even Bill Bryson's book shows that Einstein was a bit wrong. I think it even talks of him spending the rest of his life trying to make a connection between his special theory of relativity and the quantum theory, but sadly never could.

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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by BetweenMyths
Is anything faster than the speed of light?


Yes.

Thought.


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posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by wiredamerican
reply to post by BetweenMyths
 


Quantum Entanglement is faster than the speed of light.
Quantum Entanglement is when two particles are close to each other and they become entangled. Entangled means they act the same. So when you entangle two particles and separate them then screw with one particle, no matter how far the other particle is in the universe it will do the same thing as its entangled buddy.


Speed of light is around 670,616,629.2 miles per hour.

So if you entangled two particles and separated them to say 700,000,000 miles apart , if you mess with one particle, the other instantly knows what the other is doing and does the same thing.
So that would prove of "something" going past our known speed of light. And the same would apply if the two particles were on each side of our visible universe. Now that would be an enormous speed for particles to travel information .

hope this helps.


Good point! Two previously entangled particles 700 million miles apart would do the same as each other instantaneously - much faster than the speed of light when you consider that it takes 8 minutes for light to travel 93 million miles from our sun to the earth.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 03:51 AM
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Here's one to bake your noodle.

In the essence of speed, time is faster than light, therefore, traveling at the speed of time would be the fastest you could go.

IE.

Travel at 1 trillionth of a second by a time / matter engine. XD



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by Revolution-2012
Here's one to bake your noodle.

In the essence of speed, time is faster than light, therefore, traveling at the speed of time would be the fastest you could go.

IE.

Travel at 1 trillionth of a second by a time / matter engine. XD


But time is relevent. So the light moving at the speed of time will be faster than me moving at the speed of time.

And traveling at the speed of time on earth is going to be different than traveling at the speed of time somewhere else in the universe, like near the sun.

I'm confused.



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