posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 11:03 PM
Speaker, I think an atheist would readily agree on most of your claims. There is a philistine common ground on most of your points. For instance,
globalization and technological advancements could all be considered attempts at world peace and salvation by basic 'enlightenment' concepts. The
difference being that you take into consideration spiritual consciousness, and someone mentioned a divine intervention being the only means to better
things at this point. Those in this thread would consider the modern state of the world disturbing while an atheist would view humanity's
shortcomings as a natural inevitable byproduct, the impossibility of perfection on the roads to utopia. I don't know, this is just how I picture
things. But there are some things I have noticed, things unable to be conceptualized in any statistical method, that make me see the ultimate failure
of an atheistic viewpoint. Namely, this is a mass irrationality in people, in logic, in systems that are utterly baseless in the end (the absurd
roundabout you mentioned). This is the unseen force that plagues us now, the cause of the things we can't seem to figure out. Society doesn't
think in terms of alienation from the 'source'. If they did they would notice the lack of interconnectedness and therefore be conscious of a major
problem. Instead we live under the illusion of inclusivity, the illusion of a combined desire for progress (towards what?), the huddling together in
mutual acceptance of the human condition. We do realize the ship is sinking, but the atheist says to himself "Why not sink together, the lot of us,
and accept that fate. At least I won't be alone." But, yes, we need more of a kind of spirituality, we need much more God, we need the big miracle
to trump all miracles, and at the same time we need to keep in mind that perhaps "...the miracle arises from faith and not faith from the miracle"
as Dostoevsky would say.
Great thread. I don't think it's a coincidence that in such times such truth seekers as you would be around.