Poor kids in N.M. schools forced to eat cold cheese sandwiches when parents can't pay, page 3
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reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 05:17 PM by riddle6
Some of you could still get PB&J sandwiches in Hight School? Where do you live? I wish I would have been there.

When I was in Elementary, they would allow two days of overage fine, then it was a peanutbutter sandwich, and maybe milk. It came in a saran (spelling) wrap package on the tray. It wasn't even like you had two different lines. You would have to walk up to the register and tell the lady that you needed a sandwich. She would then yell out that she needed a sandwich, and then the pass of shame, so to speak, would begin. Eventually you would get your sandwich, that was probably a week old, and then you would go and sit down. They allowed a week of sandwiches, and then you went without lunch. I had to have a sandwich once, and it was one of the worst tasting things I have ever had in my life.

And whoever says that kids won't judge other kids because they know someone has the "welfare lunch," you are terribly wrong. Maybe it won't be outright, but it will at least be whispers. Not only did this happen to me, but I saw it happen to so many other kids.

When I reached Middle School, there was no way to charge. You either payed or you didn't eat. Same way with High School.

Here the limit to qualify for free/reduced breakfast/lunch was $50,000. Regardless of what was going on in your life, if your parent's combined wages were over that limit you were out of luck. No ands, ifs, or buts. I can't even begin to tell you how many of my friends that I have bought food for because they couldn't even afford the $0.50 Little Debbie crap on the snack tray.

And for everyone who is saying that Americans should be so greatful, we have it so good, there are people in other coutries who don't even eat that in an entire day, etc., all I have to say is that it's all realitive. Just because someone else has it worse doesn't mean you don't have it bad either.


reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 06:00 PM by GrndLkNatv
They are lucky to get that. Back in the old days during the last great depression everyone went hungry most of the time. So these kids are spoiled especially since their parents are losers who don't pay their bills. If you can't pay, you can't play. Either that or give your kids food from home. The free lunch is forever gone my friend...

Originally posted by BlackOps719


Link to story





ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – A cold cheese sandwich, fruit and a milk carton might not seem like much of a meal — but that's what's on the menu for students in New Mexico's largest school district without their lunch money.

Faced with mounting unpaid lunch charges in the economic downturn, Albuquerque Public Schools last month instituted a "cheese sandwich policy," serving the alternative meals to children whose parents are supposed to be able to pay for some or all of their regular meals but fail to pick up the tab.

Such policies have become a necessity for schools seeking to keep budgets in the black while ensuring children don't go hungry. School districts including those in Chula Vista, Calif.; Hillsborough County, Fla.; and Lynnwood, Wash.; have also taken to serving cheese sandwiches to children with delinquent lunch accounts.

Critics argue the cold meals are a form of punishment for children whose parents can't afford to pay. Parents who qualify for free meals are not affected.

"We've heard stories from moms coming in saying their child was pulled out of the lunch line and given a cheese sandwich," said Nancy Pope, director of the New Mexico Collaborative to End Hunger. "One woman said her daughter never wants to go back to school."

Some Albuquerque parents have tearfully pleaded with school board members to stop singling out their children because they're poor, while others have flooded talk radio shows thanking the district for imposing a policy that commands parental responsibility.

Second-grader Danessa Vigil said she will never eat sliced cheese again. She had to eat cheese sandwiches because her mother couldn't afford to give her lunch money while her application for free lunch was being processed.

"Every time I eat it, it makes me feel like I want to throw up," the 7-year-old said.





I do realize that school systems and states in general are suffering from budget shortfalls and in serious need of cost cutting measures. However, in this instance Im not sure this is the right approach to saving a few bucks.

Doesn't it seem wrong to single out and humiliate elementary age school children because of the inability of the parents to pay? Yes I know what many heartless types will say, they are deadbeats and as such deserve no sympathy.

But isn't that the whole point here? Does it not fall on the parent to shoulder the blame for not having the ability to pay? Isnt it a bit cruel and unusual to humiliate young children for the short comings of the parent?

Can you imagine the ridicule that a youngster would face, being singled out and pulled aside in front of an entire cafeteria full of their peers and forced to eat a welfare cheese sandwich in shame.


I can see the point of view of the school officials on one hand because yes, parents should pay their fair share of the cost. But on the other hand I feel bad for thse children and see them as an innocent victim here. No doubt the stigma attached for a young child to be mocked in such a way will carry over to their adult lives.

Couldn't they find a better way to handle the problem than resorting to public humiliation of the children?

[edit on 2/25/09 by BlackOps719]




reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 06:15 PM by Snooze
reply to post by BlackOps719



Most school districts do this. It does not single out the poor kids because when the wealthy kids run a negative balance of a few dollars (because the kids forget to give the lunch notice to their parents) they also must eat the "no money" lunch. People have to learn in the real world that people pay their bills.


reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 07:06 PM by redhatty
reply to post by BlackOps719



Louisiana public schools have done this same thing for years.

Any parent at any time during the school years can get an application for free or reduced cost school meals.

Then fill it out and send it to the school with their child.

Unfortunately, some parents are so "stuck on status" that they won't ask for the application, like it's some kind of social stigma to have a child on the free or reduced meals program.

High school meal costs here are:
Lunch: $1.75 / Reduced: $0.40
Breakfast: $1.00 / Reduced $0.30

Elementary meal costs are:
Lunch: $1.50 / Reduced $0.40
Breakfast: $1.00 / Reduced $0.30

I wonder how many kids that have no money for school meals have parents who are never out of cigarettes or beer.


reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 07:33 PM by stevegmu
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to
post by staple



You are right the do serve peanut butter sandwiches also, how can I forget about that one.

I think all schools do that to save money.



I don't think public schools are allowed to serve peanut butter anymore, as some kid might be allergic. Some school districts have even banned milk.


I don't think the root cause of this problem is the economic slowdown. It probably has more to do with educating Mexican kids on the taxpayer's dollar. Remove them, and the American kids could eat omelets and croissants.



reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 08:13 PM by Glencairn
I'm in the "no problem with cheese" camp on this one. The school that my daughter attends has a set up that lets the parents send lunch money to the office that is deposited into the kid's lunch account. Each day the kids get in line and when it is their turn they put their finger on a scanner and it deducts the cost of that days lunch from their account. This applies to the kids who get the free/reduced lunches too, so the kids have no idea who is on free/reduced unless the kids themselves divulge that information.

Recently my daughter's account was low and the school sent a note to let us know that it was getting near time to refill the account. My daughter forgot to give it to us and a few days later she got the cold lunch. She got peanut butter on bread. Not a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, just peanut butter. No fruit, no milk, just peanut butter on bread. Believe me, she "found" her note that same day and made sure that it was the first thing out of her folder when she got home that afternoon. I have no doubt that she would have been thrilled to have gotten a cheese sandwich with fruit and milk.

I hate that other kids are being teased for having to be singled out, because kids can be quite cruel, but they still are getting a better lunch than they could be getting. It is also unfortunate that not everyone can qualify for the free/reduced meals program, but is it unreasonable for the schools to draw a line and say "no more" to the kids (or their parents) who aren't on that program? I don't think that it is. I don't have any solutions, but on the other hand, I don't have a lot of sympathy, either. Those kids are eating better than mine did when mine forgot her low balance note. I was just happy that the school didn't make my child go hungry altogether.

Take care,
Cindi
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