posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Navieko
reply to post by ZeroGhost
Although you could argue that to reach a point in which such experiences can be achieved without the use of external "tools" -- a level of
'motivation' is needed in order to get the ball rolling, so to speak. I believe things exist for a reason. I also believe in spiritual progress.
Can't you see how for someone like me, with genuine intentions, can be affected by such restrictions?
Perhaps this discussion would be better suited for a thread on the new forum, if it's created of course.
[edit on 25/2/09 by Navieko]
Absolutly. I am only arguing for the perceived reasoning here.
I know from knowledge and experience that altered and heightened states of awareness are natural and authorized by reality. It changes when anything
is incorporated incorrectly (abused) and not corrected, causing an addiction or other socially destructive states.
Reformed alcoholics state that "They have abused their right to use alcohol for their failure to moderate it's use". Same can be said for others
and other substances. The right to use is always there if a responsible one.
When someone see's their dead relative or angels, or experience high levels of understanding while in a traumatic car accident, we can't outlaw
that. But if someone takes a pill to do it, those who are making efforts at controlling consciousness on this planet to keep control and not let us
evolve to levels that would expose their folly, can then list this "tangible" item as illegal. But this has trickled down to our local culture and
In truth, we have to a large extent lost our selves now for lack of the sacred paths available to us. No drug can get you back, but historically in
the sacred traditions, "sacraments" can be used to remind us of the greater awareness at hand and how much we need to try harder to understand and
evolve from a pre-intelligent being to a survivable level of awareness. Without the drugs.
Responsible is the key word here. You judge yourselves. PCP might not be recommended for this journey to understanding however.
I may not agree with ANY prohibition on free speech, but ATS has a business and has as such a responsibility to maintain that business, without being
sued for encouraging use or sales of such substances at the core of the greater legal issue. They answer to everyone, their market.
How would we do this any differently?