Originally posted by karl 12
This other Coastguard report from England is a realy interesting one -the report is from the National Enquirer but it does detail some very intriguing witness testimony.
Eight Coastguards witness flying disc - Officials ordered them to keep quiet
" Flight Lieutenant David Smith, RAF controller at Plymouth, who was on duty on the day of the sighting, said.
There was no tracking of a UFO on our radar screen.
None of my men saw anything on the radarscope."
” The object was also reported tracked on radar, according to a senior RAF controller at Plymouth.
CLEVELAND -- A photo taken on March 11, 2010, for the sixth consecutive night, Eugene Erlikh said a bizarre series of lights flickered outside his apartment building _ Erich, 20 said, “It gets bright, brighter, different colors and then it gets dim and as soon as it gets dim, it starts moving.”
Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by judge360
You can Flag the thread at the top of each page,on left side. You'll see the Flag box. To star, go to page 1 of the thread-to the original post. At the end of his long list of blue stars, you'll see an uncolored star-click that one.
Originally posted by Thundr
I am new here but have several questions that I wonder if they can be answered? First, what if the supposed aliens are not from another planet but from our blue world. Life began in the sea, what if there is another species that evolved and stayed in the ocean, they would be millions of years more advanced than us. Another question that I have is a physics one. What if the so called ships that we are seeing are filled a liquid other than a gas to breathe, how would that react on bodies suspended in that said fluid? Could that explain how a body could withstand the massive G forces that are pulled when the crafts make the drastic changes in direction that have been witnessed? If these beings are from our oceans then they would reside in the lower depths of our oceans far from our prying eyes where the pressure is extreme, could that also have a effect on bodies in the ship? Moving through water is alot harder than moving through air and if they have mastered that then moving through our atmosphere would a breeze (No pun intended) for them. These questions probably have been posed before but I have a very curious mind and need answers.
Air Intelligence Division Study No. 203 with the help of the Office of Naval Intelligence presents the first important clue that the Pentagon was well aware of the phenomenon's marine nature.[
This document is one of the rarest documents in the national archives linking the Office of Naval Intelligence to any association with the investigation of the phenomenon and offers an early clue that the study of the UFO phenomenon did not fall totally within the realm of the Air Force. Could the naval UFO experience be more involved than the air force? Is there a possibility that the Navy had years ago created a special secret group to investigate the strange aerial and marine manifestations? These questions are unequaled in importance in understanding the UFO phenomenon and the evolution of the modern UFO cover-up. Air Intelligence Division Study No. 203 represents the tip of an iceberg, of naval involvement with the phenomenon that has gone unrecognized for over a hundred years.
A considerable collection of data indicates Naval experience with the phenomenon dated back to the turn of the century and the Navy had accumulated more knowledge and experience with the phenomenon than was previously known. The first journal to routinely publish reports about the phenomenon as early as the 1900's was the U.S. Naval Hydrographic Office's "Notice To Mariners". And the first name given to the enigmatic phenomenon by that same office was "Celestial Phenomenon" seen at sea. Almost fifty years later the air force would call these same enigmatic objects "Unidentified Flying Objects".
One account published in "Notice to Mariners" provides insight into an early serious naval interest in the enigmatic phenomenon. As curious sightings of strange flying objects seen at sea are nothing new in marine history. This one case in particular had the potential to affect and shape naval interest in the phenomenon early in the century more than any other UFO sighting.
Originally posted by grandnic
Since water (like all liquids) is incompressible (for all pratical purpose) having a craft filled with water instead of air would permit this craft to go to the deepest parts of the oceans without the problems associated with our submarines and crafts. I'd think that a craft filled with water would suffer less from G forces associated with acceleration because the pressure waves would not affect the liquid but I may be wrong here. There are members here who are way more knowledgeable than I about physics.
Pilots Witness Two UFOs separate and One USO Submerge
December 22, 1977.
"We were out about six hundred miles over the Atlantic at 21,000 feet heading in to Logan. The weather was clear except for some widely scattered clouds beneath us. It was 11:40 p.m. and I had a guy by the name of Slim Dickson as co-pilot. We had just been having a cup of coffee and Slim had set his cup on the panel next to his right elbow. As he put the cup down, he glanced out to what would be between one and two o'clock, and suddenly he grabs me by the arm.
"Reflexively I swiveled my head to look at him and caught this dazzle of twinkling lights coming at us from the starboard side, just ahead, and appearing maybe about fifty feet below. Instantly Slim and I realized that whatever the thing was, it was moving in a hurry, that it was entirely too close, and appeared to be about to cross in front of, or about to collide with us. And it was huge!
"I slammed on some power, hauled the nose up and prayed we'd go over top of that thing. Just as we started to climb, this thing swept straight up, did an impossible right angle turn and begins to pace us. I don't see how ANYTHING could have executed a maneuver like that -- I mean almost a simultaneous two-directional turn -- up and to the right, not to mention coming to damned near a dead stop"
"We couldn't detect any sound, see any prop or jet wash, nor see any exhaust. It just kept flashing a lot of lights around the middle. Once we leveled off again, the thing stayed just ahead of us off to our right and we had a chance to observe it.We couldn't see any hard outline or shape to it but, you could tell it was circular because of the lights...
"I don't mind telling you I was nervous as hell, and Slim, he was chalk white and scared stiff. It suddenly occurred to me...what if the passengers are watching that thing? What am I going to tell them? I didn’t want panic back there, so I buzzed the stewardess. When she came on the phone I asked her how things were back there? She answered, "Okay, why?" l said, “Oh, nothing, Just checking.” l figured as long as she hadn’t made any mention of the thing out there, then evidently none of the passengers had spotted it. The object may just have been far enough forward to be out of their sight line.
"Now comes, the wacky part of the whole thing. While we were watching the UFO, suddenly this other glowing thing drops out from underneath it. The damned thing drops out from underneath it. The damned thing looked a neon-green smoke ring. It dropped away from the larger UFO down toward the water … and submerged! We saw the glowing green circle of water where it went in, and then the glow disappeared!
“Seconds later, two more green rings dropped out. The second one dropped away and submerged like the first one, but the third one dropped down and then shot straight ahead to disappear toward the coast".
NOVA SCOTIA -- My father was on a frigate heading back to port in 1951. Sometime during a calm and sunny afternoon, the area in which they were traveling became very dark and the electrical power on board the ship shorted out and caused total blackness. My dad was hailed to the bridge noticed along with other shipmate’s six glowing lights in the water on the port side of the ship.
He stated. “The lights were about seven fathoms down, and too cylindrical in shape to be coral.” The story gets more interesting as the men seemed to have amnesia during this experience. Now the strangest of all by the time they were contacted by their Canadian military port they were 100 miles off course. They were also two days late in returning to port and did not even realize the two-day difference. They were told never to speak of the incident by their captain and some officials. Dad is turning 80, and this day is embedded in his mind and probably to the rest of the crew. Photo is the Frigate HMCS Winnipeg. Thanks to MUFON
Originally posted by cagliostro
Just an amazing thread with so much information here--I thought I knew more than most "normal people" given my having read a handful of books on the topic of ufo's, but now I see I have a LOT to learn.
Invisible Residents -Ivan T Sanderson.
A unique contribution to the study of the UFOs, originally published over 30 years ago, this updated edition includes new photographs and illustrations, and an extensive Foreword by David Hatcher Childress discussing more recent Underwater UFOs--now called USOs--Unidentified Submersible Objects. In the last 30 years, new sightings have occurred and new information on old sightings has come forth through the Freedom of Information Acts in the USA, Britain and Australia. These curious incidents during official military maneuvers raise many questions:
•do the British and Americans have underwater military bases capable of launching UFOs?
•could the ultimate docking stations for some of the UFOs seen constantly around the world be deep in our oceans?
•could these still-operational underwater docking bases have been built in our distant past by extraterrestrials?
Sanderson chronicles hundreds of curious unidentified underwater object incidents, many which emerge from the water to fly through the air, and draws some startling conclusions.
Ivan T. Sanderson was born in the UK and was a British Military Intelligence Officer during WWII. Friends with Ian Fleming, he moved to the USA in the 1950s, settled in New Jersey and formed the Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained (SITU). He has appeared numerous times on TV, including The Tonight Show; his numerous books include Ivan T. Sanderson’s Book of Jungles; Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life; Things; The Unexplained; and others.