So suddenly we trust Fox News again huh?... Is Glenn Beck leading the revolution?

Considering that I watched Glen Beck call Steve Ducey an "ass" to his face the other day on Fox & Friends, I think he's legit. In fact, I sincerely enjoy his program. I find it very telling, however, that he's buried in the mid-day schedule on the network. I don't mind Sean Hannity (flame away), O'Rielly entertains me immensely, but the fact that Greta Van Half-a-Hulk-Face's "We must combat Nancy Grace" program eats up an hour of primetime when I'd actually be able to watch Beck without needing to DVR his show is irritating.

Fox is a network of political idealogues and right wing butt kissers, I'll admit. However, MSNBC is a network of complete 100% liberal propaganda and opinion trying to pass themselves off as "news" and CNN was built by the liberal version of Rupert Murdoch years before Fox came to be. Yes, Fox kissed Bush's backside, but Obama has friction burns on his butt from Wold Blitzer and company (Though Anderson Cooper seems to be a fairly competent journalist IMHO)

Originally posted by j2000
reply to post by Sir Solomon

 

Well if you liked Rick Santelli's rant, then you should watch Glenn Beck everyday. Also Lou Dobbs. These are the only three MSM TV people sending the right message's.

Thank you for mentioning Dobbs. I had forgotten about him. Lou is refreshing because he actually delivers the news in a dignified, newsworthy fashion and runs a clearly serious news program.

I like Glenn, and I have listened to his radio program from the very beginning.
Short aside, he came to NewsRadio 970 WFLA in the Tampa/ St. Petersburgh market, replacing, as I recall, a man named Brian James, maybe a year and a half before 9/11.
He can be a bit much sometimes, arrogant, bellicose, even pendantic, but I think he delivers his message as he believes the truth to be.
Many of us have complained about there being no media person that tells the honest truth, we got that person in Beck and still the sniping.
I can attest to the fact that if anything has changed in his show, it is that he has become more outspoken towards the PTB, and he has never worried if any of "them" like it or not. His message has remained the same, except for some tweaking here and there so as to adjust to newer information, not new alliance.
As a fan, not "fanatic", I have to stand up for him and make this small attempt to set the record straight.
He has taken the Bush administration to task for the war, for spending, for social programming, for a long list of things that are not Constiutionally valid. To classify him as right or left is intellectually vacant, he is his own man. Or as he says often, to paraphrase, We're in trouble folks, stop thinking right and left and lets focus on right or wrong.

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well said!

it's niche marketing.

It's been obvious to MSM for about 2 years now (maybe longer) that there is a new niche, with fresh, awakened voices to be catered to.
Beck is the guy for now. He may just put "O'Really" out to pasture.
O'Reilly is a faux-libertarian. Which gives him the excuse to talk bad about anyone. Beck may be a little different. I hope he is.

if you haven't seen that other thread on Ron Paul's new interview, Glenn Beck doesn't seem like much of a schmuck since he actually agrees with him and doesn't spit on his words

[edit on 2/25/09 by MoothyKnight]

All I'm saying is this:

it seems to me that TPTB have opened up Pandora's Box. In my mind, WWIII has already started, and while some of us are still enjoying the luxuries in life that we've all grown accustom to, other people are out the spilling their blood on the battlefield.

You have to understand... this isn't a battle about politics, money, socialism, facism, World Government, NWO... and all the above...

I'll break it down to you in one sentence.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT POPULATION REDUCTION.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
THIS IS ALL ABOUT POPULATION REDUCTION.

Nah, me think it's about the realignment of the world power, returning control to its 'rightful' ruler.

Not necessarily reducing the population, more like a cleansing operation.

Glenn Beck has also been how he is - regardless of what station he was on (He used to be on CNN...).

I have watched some Fox news before (LONG time ago - like, pre-election time), and it was just to ludicrous for me.

Regardless, I still do not understand the hate towards this guy. He is in a business of course - but at least he is telling the truth. But you hate him ONLY because he is a conservative - and now even more since he is on Fox. I will only understand the hate towards him when there is a thread posting links to many of his comments, telling me how they are false.

You complain that the MSM is a joke - but when someone tells the truth you label them as money hungry.

I already pay my cable bill - so I do not see the problem between watching him or Comedy Central. That is why I have so many channels after all.

If Ron Paul and Glenn Beck do not speak the truth - can you enlighten me and prove them wrong at the same time?




[edit on 26-2-2009 by FritosBBQTwist]

I don't think many of the people bashing Glen Beck know a damned bit of background about him other than "he is on Fox" and must be like Sean Hannity.


Half these bozos didn't even know that he was on CNN or has had his own radio show.

They don't have nothing other than "Fox hate".

Originally posted by infolurker
I don't think many of the people bashing Glen Beck know a damned bit of background about him other than "he is on Fox" and must be like Sean Hannity.


Half these bozos didn't even know that he was on CNN or has had his own radio show.

They don't have nothing other than "Fox hate".

Yup.

This is how I see it.

They (democrats) think he is a republican (which he isn't).
They realize he talks sense.
They get jealous.

Now, even though I think both parties are dumb as hell and Glenn Beck hates both parties as is, they still get offended by him. I seriously can not think of any other reason for all the hate towards him. I have seen no proof that proves he is a fraud, besides the other lame rhetoric that thinks he is in it JUST for the money.

Sorry folks, some of us still believe in the American dream. Nice to know that he can at least make good money and not sell his soul.

Originally posted by infolurker
Hmm... I watched Glen Beck on CNN and his format hasn't really changed... same topics as last year. Hell, on CNN it got to the point that people were sending him pitchforks (as a protest to the govt. and that was during the Bush years) which he used to adorn his set.

As he bashes the "republicans" for betraying the American people and betraying conservative principles I am actually surprised that he hasn't been told to cool his jets yet since the other "talking head" Hanity is the "party can do no wrong" cheerleader and I assumed they will would have butt heads by now.

I like Glen Beck, he throws the blame around to all the political jackazzes in Washington. No holds bared.



[edit on 24-2-2009 by infolurker]

He is a Libertarian. Nuff Said.

Though, I am rather shocked Fox let him on air.. hopefully he will find all those lost Conservative souls, and bring them to the Libertarians, the True Republicans.

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Give me break rockpuk the mans a typical neocon mouthpiece. He was and still is a staunch supporter of the Iraq, and unconstitutional war that any true libertarian should be vocal against. The man has never taken the time to be critical of the republican party other than "not being conservative enough" which means more of an extreme of the Bush administration. Apart from his flawed foreign affair approach as opposed to your typical true libertarian the man has always surrounded himself with neocon minded individuals like coulter and hannity..... you are who you choose to surround yourself with.

Beck is a fear mongerer, and with the republican brand in the dumps glenn and other former bushies or neocons are once again making attempts to "rebrand" themselves, purposefully calling for civil outcry (when it should have been done in 2003 although he was too busy calling out pinko on the side of the neocons) and all this in the first month of the Obama administration. The new democratic majority takes place and this guy now makes an effort to appeal to more libertarians and rightwingers? This is suppose to be a surprise?

Your really falling for this stunt fox news of all groups are pulling off?

XTC_savedmyLife you just watch becouse it has high rateings? don't that just make you a sheep lke the rest of them when comes to peps that just are into the tube for the rateings and not for what really is going on?

I honestly don't know what to think regarding FNC, I used to be an avid watcher but tuned it out when I actually started thinking for myself, and the thing is once you're able to do that it's so easy to see when they are planting seeds and priming some larger story weeks ahead of time with some small seemingly insignificant story their objectives were easy to spot if you really thought beyond what they were telling you and asked yourself, how this may work to the advantage of "situation x" or whatever you want to call it.

It really became so easy to spot that I'd laugh every time I happened to flip through the channels and catch a story and be able to tell friends or family, what that story "really" meant and then a few weeks later be proven correct...

As of late with the introduction of Glenn Beck and with Obama coming into office it's been even more humorous the complete turn around everyone is taking its as if the roles have been completely switched, I haven't spent much time around the TV for a few week or so but did notice that nearly every FNC personality continuously referred to "President Obama" simply as "Mr. Obama", and it just appeared as if they were purposely doing it over and over again making it a point to refer to him as "Mr. Obama". idk about you guys but it seemed to me to be a little attempt to degrade Obama while seeing harmless...

And as far as Glenn Beck is concerned, I believe him to be legit, and also believe FNC is using him, FNC didn't care about this "alternative" point of view during the Bush era, or during the Republican primaries, and imho they know whats coming and the only reason they are airing Beck and Ron Paul is because its an attempt to pin all the countries downfalls on Obama, when he reality is the bush administration put into place all of the tools that Obama will likely utilize during his term, and do so i might add unquestioned by most Americans because Obama is the messiah and he will have the full unquestioned support of his followers which will allow him and those who choose to destroy this country to get away with it...

Its a back and fourth game our leaders play, one side does one thing and the other side does another, then one side blames the other for something the other side did.

The Bush Administration gave us fear But Bush could only accomplish so much before the People began to question those usurpations.

Now only "1" republican had the ability to beat a democrat in this past Presidential election, rather you agree with him or not Ron Paul is the only candidate who if pushed could have beaten a democrat but as we all know Ron Paul marches to the beat of his own drum and wouldn't be a pawn in the game.
So we got Obama, a charismatic, inspiring, well spoken, youthful leader with all the answers to out problems hes loves by everyone, and as a result of such things his decisions in general will go unquestioned by those who elected him. Obama will use the tools bush gave him, and Obama will get away with the abuses just as long as Bush did and then next time around the Republicans will be our saviors...

It's an endless cycle of bs that will lead to our downfall...

Now I have no doubt that the issues Glenn Beck overs are honest and just, and truth full as to whats coming, but just remember that this isn't being done for our benefit.

It's just another control, another way for them to blame "the other party" and keep us distracted from the truth that both sides are one and the same, be it by design or human nature.

Don't fall for it and continue to get trapped in the endless cycle of blaming "the other guy" it's not "the other guy" it's "all of them"

But as long as they keep us in this game, we will continue to lose our rights and be manipulated to benefit a small group of powerful people.

Isn't having a liberal like me watching Fox one of the seven signs of the apocalypse?

Second line dance party!

reply to post by Doomsday 2029


Are you crazy? Fox is the only network you can trust!

reply to post by Southern Guardian


You sir, know nothing of political parties.

1. Libertarians ARE conservatives by definition. Due to the stance on personal liberties, some beleifs come off as liberal.

2. The iraq war was not "unconstitutional". Please read the document before embarassing your self.

The republican party is socialist in idiology, and beck has publically denounced the liberal figure heads like bush.

Neocon is essentially the democrat infusion into the republican party, essentially fascist is the out come when you breed socialism with social conservative values.

I have only ever heard libertarian ideologies expressed by beck, and only the blind and politically ignorant would acuse a libertarian of being a neocon.

Liberals.... need a little education, removing your head from your parties perverbial arse.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
You sir, know nothing of political parties.

1. Libertarians ARE conservatives by definition. Due to the stance on personal liberties, some beleifs come off as liberal.

So your saying Libertarians are your typical conservatives in anycase? Actually I agree... they are. The vast majority of those who distance themselves from the Bush administration and the GOP are no different, they still get their information off fox news and limbaugh and they still justify what the last administration did. So yes.. they are the same can.. however there is that small minority of libertarians who actually follow libertarian principals such as Ron Paul (I dont agree with the man by the way) and this last group is what fox news is trying to attract... the true paulers. Its a stunt.

Its called re-branding Rockpuck... you should get yourself ahead of the game for petes sakes...

2. The iraq war was not "unconstitutional". Please read the document before embarassing your self.

The Iraq war was unconstitutional in that the declaration of war by the congress promoted by bush and co. (which was majority republican at the time) was based on the threat of weapons of mass distruction. However no evidence was found to support weapons of mass distruction prior to invasion, also considering that UN weapons inspectors confirmed no such existence, therefor the war was waged on false or mislead information, purposefully, which makes it unconstitutional.

Stop embarresing yourself on the "commie" talk... its outdated and nobody lives in the cold war anymore. Get a hold of yourself.

The republican party is socialist in idiology, and beck has publically denounced the liberal figure heads like bush.

Beck will say anything to make himself out to be different from the rest of the Bushies, just like Limbaugh is trying now, just like steele tried. Make a little back talk to the republicans to seperate yourself but continue the same old path of neocon policies and foreign affairs. Painted a different color but same animal.

Neocon is essentially the democrat infusion into the republican party, essentially fascist is the out come when you breed socialism with social conservative values.

This "democrat" was paraded and supported in 2000 and 2004 outright by the same conservatives that are trying to distance themselve from him. As such the man was voted in for being conservative by conservatives, was considered godsent by most conservatives in the early 2000s and folks like beck was more than happy to support his "world police" foreign policy prior and just after the Iraq war.. something against libertarian values or true conservative values.

To call bush a "liberal in disguise" is to call 95% of the conservatives on this site who agreed with him way back "liberals" or socialists as you fellas love to mix in. Whats next, in the future you vote in Romney or Jindal and their conservative policies fail as usual you going to label them "liberals" aswell? Everytime a conservative mucks up they are "liberals" and the folks who voted them in and paraded them around as gods go into the process of distancing themselves from them...... it just never ends.. this denial.

Beck is putting on a show and I gotta give it to the neocons behind fox news and Limbaugh and world net daily and all the other neocon news outlets.... they really know how to attract and trick their audiences into believing the same garbage they have been putting up for years.

[edit on 28-2-2009 by Southern Guardian]

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I seen that too. That was a pretty funny look on Steve's face.

I think it took him a few seconds to realize what hit him.

Deer in the Head lights.