YES! Tennessee Introducing 10th Amendment Bill!

Originally posted by Cutwolf
I hope you guys realize that no state will actually secede and that these are all just symbolic gestures...

Please tell me you guys realize that?

Sure. But, a symbolic gesture is better than none.

Originally posted by BRQuick

Originally posted by Cutwolf
I hope you guys realize that no state will actually secede and that these are all just symbolic gestures...

Please tell me you guys realize that?

Sure. But, a symbolic gesture is better than none.

Perhaps, but to what end?

Symbolic gestures won't change a damn thing.

I fail to see the point of any of this.

Well as Bush said not everyone uses all their fingers when waving at you. These symbolic gestures let the fed know that the states are tired of the other symbolic gesture they have been giving us.

It is a line in the sand to let the federal government decide as to if it is really worth calling the bluff and finding out if it was really a bluff or not.

There is a hell of a lot more to this country than NYC, LA and DC. The wealth may rest in the hands of a few bankers and businesses to bribe their way into legislation but the reality is that all wealth comes from the little people. The big three is hurting because we as a whole do not buy their product. With job losses and outsourcing the gov't can give 50 trillion to GM...I still can not buy a new Chevy. So it doesn't matter.

The fear is if we our going to eat and have a roof over our heads tomorrow or next week or next month. These symbolic gestures are a very strong way to inform the federal government to stop and take a look what is really going on out here, in the forgotten land.

The reality that needs to be realized is that there are enough privately held guns for everyone over the age of 18 to be handed one in this country. And that there will be a breaking point when some will be willing to both start passing them out and using them.

If the warnings of Tea Parties and states positioning legislation that could be taken as preperation and justification of seceding...which has happened before...and thank you SC for keeping a low profile this time around.

Well there is an old southern expression around here, I don't know if it is used where you are but it goes something like this: "If don't want to listen, maybe you can feel." It is used by parents to let their children know if they keep acting up, they are about to get a spanking.

reply to post by questioningall


this sounds great and all but hasn't anyone wondered why these states didn't do this during the bush administration??? You remember, the one that grabbed the most power of any administration in US history?

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
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Ill say it once and Ill say again, this is nothing but more hype within the conspiracy theory community, especially those on the right of the political spectrum, disgruntled conservates and Paulers. The bills are frivolous at best and offer little more than attempt to gain attention. Just like the BC lawsuits launched in conjunction, just the IRS one, just like some of those cross state calls by a minority for "the replacement of all in government" these bills are nothing more than stunts.

This is a bit more than "hype" and "stunts" from what I read:

WHEREAS, many powers assumed by the federal government and federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States;

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WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States

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We also demand the federal government to halt and reverse its practice of assuming powers and of imposing mandates upon the states for purposes not enumerated by the Constitution of the United States

This is very direct language - demands are made. Definitely not "hype".

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a certified copy of this resolution be transmitted to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker and the Clerk of the United States House of Representatives, and to each member of Tennessee's Congressional delegation.

Dayum - now what do you think would go through Obama and Pelosi's head when that is dropped on their desks? Just hype? An entire State calling you out on you behavior?



[edit on 24-2-2009 by ACEMANN]

Originally posted by Question
Anybody know if the state of Georgia is doing or has done the same as of yet? Seeing as how TN is not that far off from us, I hope this idea spreads down here if it hasn't already.

Give me liberty or death!

Georgia already has one in.
not one line

I think that is smart for states to do. The federal government is trying to take over all control and it is too much. If people are not careful there will be another revolutionary war. The power of the federal government that Lincoln wanted was what caused the first war. A government that wants to control everything from talk radio to a persons salary. obama is a socialist and so are those other morons is congress that are in control. This is going to end up being a huge problem. Everybody better prepare themselves, this is going to get really bad and obama is going to be the one to blame.

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Yup, it sure seems that the UK is lost from what I read lately. Unfortunately so is my state of New York. New York seems to bow to the fedreal government giving me no hope for a resoution like this here. I guess I'll just have to move to one of the other states when the new civil war breaks out!

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This post is perfect and explains the situation.

With one hand the states are saying to the Fed: We don't like you.

With the other hand they are saying: More money please.

Its a catch 22 but one thing you can gaurentee, there will be no "revolution".

Originally posted by spitefulgod
I really hope this goes through for you guys in your states.... unfortunately here in the UK, we have no way of escaping our tyrant leaders so I'm a little jealous.

No need to be jealous. You will only wear your chains as long as your people are content to wear those chains and accept violations of their liberty. If you can get the English sheeple to wake-the-f***-up, the leaders of this engineered disaster are doomed.

I'm really amazed that 7/7 occurred during government "exercises" (just like 9/11), but I don't hear a lot of noise from English citizens seeking the facts. Seems like it may take quite a bit to wake your people from this lethargy.

Originally posted by antar

What is this really going to mean for America? I don't trust it, I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach as I know you do too about this.

Is it simply a measure to keep the gov from having to pay when the catastrophe they know is going to hit happens?

I've heard a number of references to a coming catastrophe - but - is there any reality to it? Seems like fear mongering is an excellent method to mount a global coup of sorts. Then, after they consolidate power, what will happen? I suspect that everything will calm down, the media will put everyone back to sleep and the official story will be "Nothing to see here folks -- move along."

Do you have *any* concrete evidence of a eminent catastrophe?

Here is a link for the Florida petttion to introduce the same legislation. I urge you to add your name to the petttion. Everyone helps. It's time we start behaving like humans instead of sheeple and standup for our rights.

www.gopetition.com...

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Originally posted by ubergrasshopper

Originally posted by antar

What is this really going to mean for America? I don't trust it, I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach as I know you do too about this.

Is it simply a measure to keep the gov from having to pay when the catastrophe they know is going to hit happens?

I've heard a number of references to a coming catastrophe - but - is there any reality to it? Seems like fear mongering is an excellent method to mount a global coup of sorts. Then, after they consolidate power, what will happen? I suspect that everything will calm down, the media will put everyone back to sleep and the official story will be "Nothing to see here folks -- move along."

Do you have *any* concrete evidence of a eminent catastrophe?

Do we actaully need any evidence has our governament not abused it's poweres, our resources, and our money enough. The evidence is everywhere simply open your eyes. perhaps some of the previous posters are correct and that a civil war or revolution is in the plans. I have a bad feeling about this as well as that is the perfect opportunity for the united nations to come in. We need a revolition but a peaceful one. I like the idea of getting rid of our current governement and starting from scratch with the constitution.




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Acemann: Just because they write really really nasty letters doesn't make it anything more than hype.

I highly doubt any high level members of the federal government actually bothered to read a single one of these sovereignty bills.

They're worth nothing more than the paper they are written on.

I wonder when Mississippi will follow

To whom it may concern,

I appreciate the link to the counting of states regarding this issue. I was very pleased to see Arkansas is on the list of those who have done the same! Very exciting...

Also, I can't believe the cowardice I am observing here.
Do you people think that our Founding Fathers were telling folks to "not rock the boat?" HELL NO! They had decided enough was enough. They declared their independance it was BRITAIN who decided that they couldn't handle that. Guess what, here we are today at an impasse.

This is how things work. First the entity tells their masters that they've had enough and they won't take it any longer (this is what has happened now in 27 states, and lets not forget that Hawaii has already taken steps to declare complete and total sovereignty of the United States, meaning that they are trying to officially secceed the Union). Then comes the phase of the crackdown, if there is one. Sometimes people declare sovereignty without bloodshed. If the Fed realizes that they are between a rock and a hard-place on this issue it may be peaceful. Now we wait and see how and if the Federal Government reacts. If they don't react, we will begin to see more laws passed like the California Marijuana Decriminilization Act that they are trying to pass.
Basically, if the Gov doesn't step in and tell the States to step down, the Federal Government will lose its legitimacy. If they do, they may very well have a war to deal with. I say bring it on. It is about time...

However, it is my hope that this will resolve itself with a splintering of the Union. As much as I regret to say it, this would be the most peaceful resolution, for all involved.
From here on out the ice gets very thin.

Don't expect much from the MSM on this unless things actually start to ramp up considerably. For now, like others have said, it is a pony show. But wait until states start passing laws in contradiction to ones that the Fed holds. Then we'll see things develop.

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I disagree rather strongly here.
This is a VERY significant historical event. Beyond that, there isn't much to say. It simply doesn't matter how much you try to rationalize it.

The more I think about this, the more excited I become.
Why?
Because, as others have noted in other threads, this HAS TO BE catching the elite completely off guard.
Obviously there are many things they would have liked to have accomplished if they WERE trying to initiate these events. First and foremost, a better crack-down on weapons control.
They didn't succeed there. NOW, the takeover of America will be impossible. Flat-out impossible.

They were caught off guard. The NWO was thwarted.
They may have something up their sleeves yet though... Keep a close watch on the developments South of the Border.

The only way to throw America down at this point would be for the Federal Government to initiate a full-scale attack on strategic countries around the world simultaneously, initiating a response on a world-wide scale against America itself...
Nobody would be that foolish.

[edit on 24-2-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

Check out this post I just started. this is a group I have been getting emails from and following a little bit. They are doing exactly what has been discussed in this thread starting a new form of government and scrapping the old one.

Interesting stuff folks we need a change and it's not going to happen unless we get off our fat american buts and show the world what it is to be an american.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Originally from Tennessee. I have this to say "Go Vols!!!"