Originally posted by RFBurns
There are videos of the shuttle in orbit where the scene of the Earth seems to almost be at a stand still. Again it depends on what orientation, and where the shuttle is during its orbit.

I haven't seen any, that is why I said that. Also, as far as I know, this mission was a common mission, no special satellites to be launched, and they did some work with the ISS.

As to the horizon..cmon..surely you can clearly see that is the curvature of the Earth. Again there are plenty of STS videos that show the Earth curvature in this manner.

I can see a curve, but I have no way of knowing if that is the Earth's rim or if it's something else, even a lens flare.

As to the ice particle bs....again...cmon.

I haven't said that these are ice particles, I haven't talked about atmospheric drag, I haven't presented any explanation, so I guess you are once more answering to other people's posts in an answer to a post from me.

I know that the sceptics may look all the same to you, but we are not.

Originally posted by RFBurns
As I stated in other threads, there are those of us who think way byond the 8x11 piece of paper, and definately can see with our own eyes what is happening.

We use A4 paper in Portugal, it's a 210x297 millimetres piece of paper, so yes, I think beyond your 8x11 piece of paper.

Like I said earlier : Now, the "lights" that are supposed to be stars that are outside the "Earth" at the bottom of the screen all move in the same direction (up) & angular speed (for the viewer) as the ones within the Earth's surface (city lights ?)

Just try it yourself and use the "Earth's rim" as a reference point. (for a few seconds)


That could be a clue for the rest of the video if we can explain it...

This is one of the reasons why I doubt this is even the Earth's rim we are seeing, it's not logical. I stand with ArMap on this one until we can find more data and explain this anomaly.


Cheers,
Europa



[edit on 24-2-2009 by Europa733]

Originally posted by Europa733
Like I said earlier : Now, the "lights" that are supposed to be stars that are outside the "Earth" at the bottom of the screen all move in the same direction (up) & angular speed (for the viewer) as the ones within the Earth's surface (city lights ?)

Just try it yourself and use the "Earth's rim" as a reference point. (for a few seconds)


That could be a clue for the rest of the video if we can explain it...

This is one of the reasons why I doubt this is even the Earth's rim we are seeing, it's not logical. I stand with ArMap on this one until we can find more data and explain this anomaly.


Cheers,
Europa



[edit on 24-2-2009 by Europa733]

I disagree and say again, this was shown on TV around the world, Do you believe for one moment if the footage was fake NASA wouldn't have come forward and said so. They would have eaten the TV company up and spun it so much that it would have been in all of the MSM mocking the believers.

I myself go with the researchers on this

[edit on 24-2-2009 by franspeakfree]

I saw it live! A NASA cable broadcast.... UGH

Did anyone else see it live?

[edit on 24-2-2009 by ranhome]

[edit on 24-2-2009 by ranhome]

Yeah I was starting to think this was taken from the ground pointing up at an angle. If this was taken from outside the Earth in orbit, those clouds would be moving thousands of miles per hour. It's pretty normal to see them moving like that if you are on the ground looking up however. If this was taken on the ground then that object is still interesting though.

So what are you people getting at here, this is some video of some other planet elsewhere in the galaxy????

It is Earth. The debunkers are simply throwing in more confusion than ever on this one! My god people cant you trust yoru own eyes?

I think the debunkers have gone byond the bottom of their bag-o-scuses and are now so desperate to throw in incredible far fetched explanations that the planet in the background now is not Earth, the video is not this or that, the camera is here or there, the lights are on or off...sheesh doesnt anyone else here see this obvious desperation 11th hour tactic of derailment by these debunkers, purposely throwing off the flow of the discussion of the issue of the object????

Isnt this place about denying ignorance???? That is EARTH back there people!! Oh please do tell us all, what exactly is it then.

Nibiru perhaps????



PFFTT!!!



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 24-2-2009 by RFBurns]

Originally posted by guessing

your right , this is shot inside the earth atmosphers, the 'horizon' is a bay/

How do you and Phage come up with that? Because of 1 little light off in the lower left corner that is probably a low orbiting satellite, or perhaps a real piece of space junk?

If this was shot in the atmosphere, why do we see the curvature of the Earth so well defined? Where is the ground? Most aerial photography I have seen, even from the recent private spaceplane experiment does not show the curvature of the Earth so defined, including old photos from both the U-2 and SR-71.

Notice that the desperate explanations usually come in droves at the last ditch effort hour as we get closer and closer to the truth.

A pattern so recognizable its rediculous.



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by RFBurns
So what are you people getting at here, this is some video of some other planet elsewhere in the galaxy????

It is Earth. The debunkers are simply throwing in more confusion than ever on this one! My god people cant you trust yoru own eyes?

I think the debunkers have gone byond the bottom of their bag-o-scuses and are now so desperate to throw in incredible far fetched explanations that the planet in the background now is not Earth, the video is not this or that, the camera is here or there, the lights are on or off...sheesh doesnt anyone else here see this obvious desperation 11th hour tactic of derailment by these debunkers, purposely throwing off the flow of the discussion of the issue of the object????

Isnt this place about denying ignorance???? That is EARTH back there people!! Oh please do tell us all, what exactly is it then.

Nibiru perhaps????



PFFTT!!!



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 24-2-2009 by RFBurns]

it is of earth, Text, reminds me of a helicopter ride i once took in new zealand overlooking a lake with a mountain the background. No doubt not the same place, though maybe greece?

nibiru is jupiter, though you were just fooling about that