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NASA STS-114 UFO Footage - Can it be debunked?


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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 07:05 AM by JimOberg


Has anybody obtained their own copy of the time-tagged video of this sequence?

Has anybody with opinions about this case, here, actually done a-ny-thing recently to contribute research results to understanding it better?

There were some useful graphical representations posted a few weeks ago, contributing to understanding perceptual limitations in space -- useful stuff.

Lots of proclamations of certainties, and posing as experts with imaginary friends inside the space business, and imaginative speculations that are a GOOD first step, but only if followed up by proposed methods of actually evaluating the ideas...

Otherwise, we get nowhere closer... which might be what some folks actually desire.

This really is frustrating.



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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 07:16 AM by Exuberant1


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Hey Jim.

This thread may have died, but in the process Martyn Stubbs has released some new video footage containing anomalies, from numerous missions. It is posted on his channel.

Have you been to Stubbs` YouTube channel?

There is a propensity of anomalous occurrences in the videos he has posted - many of which cannot be explained in a manner you would consider to be prosaic.

If you U2U him and ask, he might link you to his site.

Cheers!

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reply posted on 21-4-2009 @ 03:08 PM by JimOberg


Earlier in the thread we debated the issue of whether the shuttle UFO images were in visible or UV. I've finally obtained the detailed technical specs of the shuttle external cameras and the window transmissivity and posted them here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 01:15 PM by breebree


I was actually wondering if you ever had a UFO encounter or had an encounter with an alien.
I am doing a documentary about UFO's and Aliens and I need to interview someone that has had an encounter.
So if you have or know anyone please contact me at [personal information removed]

Thank you!

[edit on 27-4-2009 by 12m8keall2c]



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reply posted on 27-4-2009 @ 04:12 PM by MegatronX


My sister and I have both seen objects move almost exactly like the ones in the video. We saw it at dusk and they had a green glow with a orange tint. There were three, one vanished and the other two moved about a little before leaving.

Watching that gave me chills as it brought back the memories of seeing those lights. No idea what could move like that. Great find



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reply posted on 28-4-2009 @ 03:15 AM by AlienMike


History Channel's UFO Hunters took a look at this footage.

If someone else has already posted this then my appolgies, this thread is getting huge.


YouTube Link



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reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 09:44 AM by JimOberg


A fact in dispute earlier was whether thruster plumes should be visible or not. This is the quotation I referred to, tghat I've now tracked down:

From astronaut Joe Allen's book, 'Entering Space'

photo caption on copyright page:
"The author photographs the split-second burst of light that accompanies an ignition of the OMS engines."

p. 194:

"It is night when the burn begins. The astronauts, whose seats face forward, cannot see the bright, momentary tongue of exhaust that shoots from the OMS engine."

Jim O elaborates:

When burning steady, these plumes are invisible. But they still create exhaust fields that can entrain and push nearby floating debris, which are visible as they turn directions in their motion.



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reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 09:46 AM by JimOberg


Originally posted by AlienMike
History Channel's UFO Hunters took a look at this footage.

If someone else has already posted this then my appolgies, this thread is getting huge.




This is a topic for a new thread. In my assessment, Jack Kasher is a very foolish man when it comes to UFOs, and his attempts at a scientific exposition of the STS-48 video are distressingly erroneous. I can provide details.



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reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 10:09 AM by reugen


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yeah i have a plausable explanation, its an satellite in orbit around earth, STS-114 is filiming into space and the earth is out of frame to the right, the satellite or whatever lit up by the sun flies by and continues in its elliptical orbit around the earth to the right, there the "turn".



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reply posted on 22-5-2009 @ 12:10 AM by JimOberg


Here's links to the FOIA'ed data I've received regarding when there were thruster firings during the period of the object's motion and direction reversal.

I hope this original resdearch is helpful in the understanding of the nature of this video.

Original FOIA Request
www.quickfilepost.com...

NASA Reply Cover Letter
www.quickfilepost.com...

RCS Thruster Firing History 1
www.quickfilepost.com...

RCS Thruster Firing History 2
www.quickfilepost.com...

Angle Drift Over Time (Autopilot Errors)
www.quickfilepost.com...



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reply posted on 31-5-2009 @ 11:23 AM by observe50


why, yes they are actually here studing and observing and monitoring everything 24/7 I sit and wait for most of you to wake up!



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reply posted on 1-6-2009 @ 12:24 AM by Exuberant1


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If any of those FOIA reqs. actually corroborated your hypothesis, you would have posted excerpts....


Nice try Jimbo.



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