That's right Pazcat. That is the CLASSIC. Object moves to the left; bright light appears/missile/laser, and the object changes direction at a tremendous high speed.

Oh, wait! That was the debunked one. Didn't they say it was the shuttle booster that propelled the object? Sure, the boosters would have an effect at such distance.

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Your explanation makes total sense to me. It looks like all the "believers" chose to ignore it.

never saw the first one before great vid!

Originally posted by Quazze

Originally posted by RFBurns

I cant wait to hear this one explained away.

It was explained with elite detail, but perhaps you are being naive to accept the logic. This is truly an amazing video and easily can lead you down a puzzling tunnel. But why do you automatically assume it is an intelligently controlled spacecraft from an unknown region just because you, yourself, cannot explain it.

I do not mean to rag on or demean you, but it is disappointing when individuals like yourself become so close minded.

Actually I think I am being quite open minded about it. I also think I have followed up my reasons for not thinking it would be ice, or junk or a satellite, to which all are quite reasonable and logical conclusions to why it would not be any of those things I have mentioned.


Cheers!!!!

I think we are seeing the effects of small changes in the motion of the shuttle, orbital corrections.

1) Notice that all of the lights (except the ones in question) display the same relative motion through the video. They all move slowly toward the top of the frame. This indicates that they are stars and light sources on Earth, the movement being an indication of the general movement of the shuttle in its orbit.

2) The first, bright object moves across the frame from right to left. Now, it could be moving to the left relative to the shuttle, or the shuttle could be moving to the right relative to it. There is no way to tell the difference.

3) As the apparent movement of this object slows, it could be slowing, or the movement of the shuttle relative to it could be changing. If that's the case, why then does the apparent motion of the other lights not change? If the mystery object is very much closer to the shuttle than the lights, parallax would cause a small change in the velocity of the shuttle to be much more visible on the near object than on the very distant sources of light.

4) Note that shortly after the apparent motion of the "important" object begins to reverse, another very dim object becomes visible, moving from left to right as well.

Summary: an object (ice, junk, etc.) is nearby the shuttle, with a relative motion to the left. The shuttle accelerates gently to the left, causing the relative motion to slow and eventually reverse. The dim object is on a slightly different trajectory and is closer to the camera, causing it to appear to be moving faster. The change in velocity is not visible in the other lights because of their distance.

BTW: could somebody please provide a link with better video quality. Youtube compression is terrible.

Now, I just noticed something others have not. If they have mentioned it, I apologize for re-posting. Take a look at second 21. If you blink you will miss it. There is what seems to be a stationary object and then, another (not as bright) object goes from left to right. Right when its going under the object, lightning seems to be coming out, almost as if the intent was hostile. And that's when the other ship seems to go from left to right as well.

We keep hearing of dogfights "up there". This may not be as far fetched as it sounds.

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Here is another example of NASA obviously testing the waters for public disclosure...

They do it again and again, time after time..example after example...

Yet what do WE do? We debate it than rather push them for the answers. We let them sit back and watch us argue if it is or isn't something.

In a way I have come round to NASA (NAZA) as deceptive and corrupt these guys are, in the way they can always say "Hey we even showed you guys the vision from our missions - yet you choose to go on the "what could that be", rather than take it for what it is - a UFO". They have covered their arses by doing this too.

Debunkers and skeptics on these types of obvious threads are really truly annoying and either show their total ignorance in the fact they just can't believe what their left brains see.

Don't even bother replying 'debunker' or 'skeptic' you're on my ignore list anyway.

The people that do believe or know, it is frustrating to have this proof yet the sheep are asleep, and preoccupied with the doom and gloom economy to even want to know about open main stream discussion. They have been hypnotized by their main stream 'news' to care little outside that small box.

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