Originally posted by Wertdagf


Heres the quote for you proving what i am explaining is correct. So my above statement is 100% true. He does NOT "create" new timelines. thats a quote from titor.

[edit on 24-2-2009 by Wertdagf]

Yeah, which part is the quote from Titor, the diatribe about your vast knowledge of physics or the little blurb at the bottom. Titor himself said that he creates a new branch with each trip. Please prove me wrong with a reference to the original quote this time instead of saying things you think and then obscuring them with babble. You will then finally get that 3rd question.

Yeah, this topic is being kinda ignorant. Anyone familiar with the concept of alternate dimensions, should really THINK about what the OP is saying. I do not deny and I do not endorse John Titor but how can we know ANYTHING about his timeline besides what he told us, just because the stuff he talked about DID / DIDN'T happen in our timeline, oh well, because that's not relevant at the current point and time.

By trying to justify your deductive logic and prove your intelligence. You ignorance bleeds through.

You cannot prove something you don't know, you maybe able to convince people and yourself that you are right, but truth isn't truth until it's beyond any shadow of any doubt. To denounce or endorse something you don't know for a fact, makes you part of the plague of this planet.

-Identity Zero

Originally posted by Luciferdescending
Titor himself said that he creates a new branch with each trip. Please prove me wrong with a reference to the original quote this time instead of saying things you think and then obscuring them with babble. You will then finally get that 3rd question.

Ummm, I just read all of his posts. He didn't say that. What was that you said earlier about supporters making things up? Please post a link in case I overlooked it.


He did say that every trip he makes creates another branch in his backtrack path to get home.


Also, your really acting like an ass. If you really want to discuss it and not just shout down at everyone you can leave out the be-littleing remarks and words like "Rant, Tripe and Crap". It makes you look like your trolling for someone to dump on.



[edit on 24-2-2009 by Tiloke]

Sir, YOU can 'babble' all you want and play flame victim here, pretending you are "giving them a chance to prove"... but we both (and others) know what's this is all about plain and simple:

A classic ego-feeding-debunking case!

If you have made your mind about the case, move on, and let dreamers dream.. what ever...

And this modus operandi, of giving just bits of the puzzle at times... hmmm .. plain old 'keep them looking at me"...

IMHO, perhaps you should devote your time and energy at something you believe..

Peace

I found it.

Posted by JohnTitor;
If I go forward on this worldline, the future will not be my future. I get home by going back to 1975 before I arrived and then going forward to 2036.
A few people have asked me about this statement so I will try to clarify it.

On my worldline: (A) in 2036, I was given a mission in 1975. I turn my machine on and jump to another worldline (B) in 1975 with about a 2% divergence from (A).

From the very point I turn my machine off on (B), I create a new worldline just because I'm there. This line can be described as (C) and started when I got to (B).

I am now doing my mission on line (C) in 1975 when I discover a very a good reason to go forward on (C) and see what happened. I turn my machine on and go forward on (C) to the year 2000.

When I turn it off, I start another line called (D). So from my perspective, here we are on line (D) in the year 2000. In order to go home to line (A) I must turn my machine on and go back on (D) until I reach (C) which in turn would take me back to (B) which in turn takes me to a point before I arrived on (B) then I go forward from the point I arrived on (B) back to (A).

He was talking about a new worldline we would have to trace back in order to get to his own. He states in MULTIPLE posts that our worldline was always here but is different from his.

[edit on 25-2-2009 by Tiloke]

you guys are hilarious. You each even contradict each other and then cheer each other for it. I cannot wait till i have the time to explain what is so wrong with all of it.

Ok one and all. From this point forward, there will be ZERO targeting of fellow members in this discussion. Further off-topic posts in the thread will result in post removal, and possible warns.

Remember to always post with respect to other members, as their opinions are as valuable as your own. Also, please discuss the post topic, not the poster...

TheBorg
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You cannot prove something you don't know, you maybe able to convince people and yourself that you are right, but truth isn't truth until it's beyond any shadow of any doubt. To denounce or endorse something you don't know for a fact, makes you part of the plague of this planet.

-Identity Zero

Sorry but I have no fear that by the end of this thread, my point will not be simply convinced upon but it will be proven.

Originally posted by Tiloke


Ummm, I just read all of his posts. He didn't say that. What was that you said earlier about supporters making things up? Please post a link in case I overlooked it.

Ummmm then you have not read them all.

He did say that every trip he makes creates another branch in his backtrack path to get home.

so you just do not understand what that means then?

Also, your really acting like an ass. If you really want to discuss it and not just shout down at everyone you can leave out the be-littleing remarks and words like "Rant, Tripe and Crap". It makes you look like your trolling for someone to dump on.

That is so very helpful coming from someone who simply filled a paragraph with the exact type of ill mannered behavior.

Originally posted by Sator
Sir, YOU can 'babble' all you want and play flame victim here, pretending you are "giving them a chance to prove"... but we both (and others) know what's this is all about plain and simple:

A classic ego-feeding-debunking case!

If you have made your mind about the case, move on, and let dreamers dream.. what ever...

And this modus operandi, of giving just bits of the puzzle at times... hmmm .. plain old 'keep them looking at me"...

IMHO, perhaps you should devote your time and energy at something you believe..

Peace

You must be so smart to know so many things that you have never once been given the chance to even learn of. How intelligent or arrogant to assume so much. You pick. If you cannot help, if you cannot debate, answer, or state a case, then you are simply one of those flamers you claim I am playing victim too. Are you helping contribute to that? Perhaps your time would best be spend on threads more conducive to topics you enjoy.

Originally posted by Tiloke



He was talking about a new worldline we would have to trace back in order to get to his own. He states in MULTIPLE posts that our worldline was always here but is different from his.

[edit on 25-2-2009 by Tiloke]

First of all, you missed it but let's just go with this.

In his story (according to you) every single possible universe already exists? That is what you are saying he says correct? I would hate to poke my holes in this before I am sure that I am right.

Originally posted by TheBorg
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TheBorg
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And that is exactly what I would like. Have a Titor point, make it. If I can debunk it, I will. Titorites can flame elsewhere. Unless there is real fear that I may just shatter this myth once and for all, there is no reason for all these personal flames, attackes, etc. There should not be one post that is not about Titor.

Originally posted by Luciferdescending

Originally posted by Tiloke



He was talking about a new worldline we would have to trace back in order to get to his own. He states in MULTIPLE posts that our worldline was always here but is different from his.

[edit on 25-2-2009 by Tiloke]

First of all, you missed it but let's just go with this.

In his story (according to you) every single possible universe already exists? That is what you are saying he says correct? I would hate to poke my holes in this before I am sure that I am right.

Yes this is what he is saying. Now that it has been reposted several times and clarified several times. Lets get to the end of this... what do you find illogical about the Titor story.