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posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

btw I just want to state that i don't know if badmedia is a false prophet or not, but the whole ( I am a son of God ) I go by the holy ghost thing he always says sounds like something false prophets do,


You calling Jesus a false prophet? Are you saying Jesus lied in John 14? If Jesus was speaking with you now, you would deny and say the same things of him. If he didn't do exactly what you expected of him, you would denounce him no different than the Jews did, and for the same reason. You won't be happy until your religion is the only world religion. And if Jesus doesn't further your agenda as such, you will denounce him.

The reason so many accepted Paul, is because he actually did carry out such agendas. He appeals to politicians and so forth. All manipulation.

Paul takes that Jesus died and didn't fight back as to be submissive and supportive of authorities. WRONG. Jesus was killed because he was not submissive to authorities. Because he stood up and told the truth, and he threatened their authority. He did not fight back or kill anyone because to do so he would be breaking a commandment. And that is manipulated.



All of us christians have the holy ghost in some form or another and are sons of God, so because he sounds so singular about it makes me wonder.


Yeah, except for maybe that numerous times I tell people exactly the opposite.



Souls shall see this more and more in the coming years.

have a good day everybody.


Denounce me on a personal level all you want. I am told to expect nothing less.

And btw, I do not call myself a prophet at all. Your bible calls me one.



6And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.


And no, I'm not moses and didn't see god physically.

I don't call myself a prophet because I was never told to do anything. I do this of my own choosing, and choose to share the understandings I have gained. Because I feel it is the right thing to do If anyone follows me as a prophet, I will tell them they need to be their own prophet and that can only come for their own understanding from a personal relationship with the father. And wisdom I speak, any understanding I have all comes from the father, but of course it was meant and given to me so that I could understand. If others understand me, great. If anyone just believes me, woe to them - I am not the teacher, I am not the master.




posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia
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Actually, the truth is not really hidden. That is kind of the beauty of it, and something I was in aw of when I first realized the truth. It was always there. I just didn't notice it. I just never seen things in the same light before. Everything I learned and seen then was always there.

When I was learning it felt like synchronicity. Because it was like I would learn and see 1 thing, and then based on that understanding something new would also pop up. I was getting answers from just non-related things. I would be pondering something and taking a walk in a park. And something would happen that was not out of the ordinary, but yet had special meaning towards the questions I was pondering.

Today I realize it wasn't synchronicity, as they were always there. It was just me learning.

It's like my signature. The supply of truth has always been in excess of demand for it, even as scarce as it seems. People just don't really look for it, so it stays hidden to them.

So that is how it is "hidden". It's truly amazing. It's always there for those who look. A 1 bit of understanding can lead to much much more. The entire way I seen the world changed, but nothing changed about me physically.



I fully agree with you. What is really funny, is that if people read the Greek testaments word for word, so that they understood the tense that most of the words are being spoken, long lost in English, then they would see that most of the things written are in imperfect tense.

You've heard of the "living word". People call it that still, but don't even know why, because the reason was lost in translation in the year of our lord 1611. If they understood that Jesus was never one man, but all mankind being one by understanding the tenses of the languages, then they would see who Jesus truly is, but there is a catch.

This is what is going to catch so many people, and the lord did this for a reason, because he knew who would betray him, to catch them in their own craftiness and to give them time to repent, under the yoke of his witness.

People must understand, God says, "I do not change". He says, "he requires the blood of every man who sheds blood". He also says, "i regard no man" and also , "why do you worship a God who can not save, or why do you trust in the son of man, but you have forgotten your maker?"

People don't realize that accepting Christ's Blood, which was never a prerequisite from God, but only that if, "today, you would turn so that I may heal you", in accepting of blood, they are accepting the slaying of him...and God requires blood from them one of two ways.

Blood in birth, or blood in their death...as God set two paths before the profit....do or do not...there is no try....do or do not otherwise "squashed...just like grape"....Mr. Miagi.

I always found it funny that it is "Danial" (judge of God) "Son" and Mr, Miagi....Magi...rabbi....who has to fight "Johnny" of the "Cobra" Kai...which means Cain. Danial does the Kick to the head, while Johnny sweeps the leg....Man I love the Jews...the best story tellers in the world, because they can take one story, literally (bible is one story, only the names and places have been changed to protect the innocent) and retell it in a fashion where we think it is brand new...like magic or something...anyway not to get off track

Do you see how christ takes all accept himself, the only one he could not keep? Just as absolom did to david, so does christ do for god....to sit in the gate and persuade the people that he might judge them instead of his father there by gaining favor with all in the land only to the tune of rebellion....funny his name means "father of peace", but he was seen as such by his countrymen.

I still get sad when david finds out absolom is dead.

I say if people want to know salvation, then they should see what has been since day one. Be fruitfull and multiply. His rules never change and he doesn't care about what man says is holy, ask any child...the truth is revealed unto them.

If we stop letting new mansions be built buy the Lord, then the love of many has grown cold, and the womb is in contraction, even now.

I can show people salvation and the son of man...living, not on a cross, because truth is manifest and what manifests more beautiful then that of a newborn who comes at an hour no man knows, except for the season as a fig tree buds forth, who splits the veil of the temple, and rumbles the earth in saying "father, into YOUR hands do I commend my spirit."

The living will always be seated to the right of the father. It's not the outside of the cup that matters, but what it carries in side of it and how clean it is inside, so then the flesh profits nothing, only to give the spirit forth in Blood (family) and water (spirit), not just water alone...

To "dip" your robe in the blood of the lamb, is to not "forbid the children to come unto me" "for the lord desires Holy offspring"..

Peace



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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I don't disagree. I tell it a bit different, but I understand what you mean and hear you.

I think those who find salvation in the death of Jesus(in his blood) are those who find salvation in the lie. I view Jesus as being a sacrifice of truth, so that the lie may live. What I find salvation and truth in with Jesus is in his life, his example, the father who speaks through him. Although I didn't learn this from Jesus, I learned it from the father. When I read Jesus after my experience, then I recognized the father being in Jesus.

Jesus is idolized in order to make it appear Jesus is something everyone else is not. But he is actually telling people that is not true. He tells them you must be born again, born anew, born of the spirit. They forget and ignore things like - and greater things than this can he do.

That is why I said those things about Mary not being a virgin. I believe this has been done to keep people from realizing the true births here. People think Mary is the virgin, so they can't see what it means to be born of the virgin. The catholic church seems to have just manipulated into meaning being born of Mary or something. Jesus is born of the virgin father, as we all are. To be born anew is really just to realize and understand it IMO, which as I mentioned above is very much like turning into a child and being born again, as your entire world perspective and understanding changes.

So don't find much disagreement there, it is understanding and meaning behind the words(to hear) that matters, rather than the specific words - as the scribes would have you believe. I think I get your meaning.



[edit on 25-2-2009 by badmedia]



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia

Originally posted by JesusisTruth

btw I just want to state that i don't know if badmedia is a false prophet or not, but the whole ( I am a son of God ) I go by the holy ghost thing he always says sounds like something false prophets do,


You calling Jesus a false prophet? Are you saying Jesus lied in John 14? If Jesus was speaking with you now, you would deny and say the same things of him. If he didn't do exactly what you expected of him, you would denounce him no different than the Jews did, and for the same reason. You won't be happy until your religion is the only world religion. And if Jesus doesn't further your agenda as such, you will denounce him.

The reason so many accepted Paul, is because he actually did carry out such agendas. He appeals to politicians and so forth. All manipulation.

Paul takes that Jesus died and didn't fight back as to be submissive and supportive of authorities. WRONG. Jesus was killed because he was not submissive to authorities. Because he stood up and told the truth, and he threatened their authority. He did not fight back or kill anyone because to do so he would be breaking a commandment. And that is manipulated.



All of us christians have the holy ghost in some form or another and are sons of God, so because he sounds so singular about it makes me wonder.


Yeah, except for maybe that numerous times I tell people exactly the opposite.



Souls shall see this more and more in the coming years.

have a good day everybody.


Denounce me on a personal level all you want. I am told to expect nothing less.

And btw, I do not call myself a prophet at all. Your bible calls me one.



6And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.


And no, I'm not moses and didn't see god physically.

I don't call myself a prophet because I was never told to do anything. I do this of my own choosing, and choose to share the understandings I have gained. Because I feel it is the right thing to do If anyone follows me as a prophet, I will tell them they need to be their own prophet and that can only come for their own understanding from a personal relationship with the father. And wisdom I speak, any understanding I have all comes from the father, but of course it was meant and given to me so that I could understand. If others understand me, great. If anyone just believes me, woe to them - I am not the teacher, I am not the master.


Don't feel down friend, do you think the people believed any of the prophets? NO WAY....They were schizo's literally, but unfortunately that is a prerequisite. It is only after you have been divided against yourself that you truly know who you are and wither or not you are going to make a choice for life, or let the "rush of waters" sweep you away.

Jesus is going through this, remember it is in the Garden that he finally submits to his father, for it was not his will (jesus). He wanted the cup passed.

When we find ourselves with the torches growing closer so that we can hear the mob, the ones condemning us, it is then, that the two become one again, with a kiss only we could deliver to ourself...fightclub style....Tyler meet Jack....Jesus meet Judas...be separate no more. Beginning meet End....and his head shall strike his heal and his heal shall bruise his head.

It took so many people to make me and you. I know, they follow me where ever I go crying "salvation please Lord"....I am the last of my house and the only one who can provide a new vine, who is withering to be cast into the fire lest I relent of my lifestyle.

I run from nothing chasing me, but can hear them all around me.

You know why some one is cursed who has a familiar spirit?
Familiar doesn't mean demon or bad, it means Family. When one has a "familiar spirit" it is a curse, because it is your family condemning you as Parents against children and Mother against daughters and Fathers against sons, so that, before we know to cry out mother and Father, our land is forsaken by both it's kings, the two lampstands that stand beside you (the whole earth), with the four living creatures, that is your grandparents, but if the Seniors fall upon you, that is the 24 (Great grand parents and Great Great grand parents), casting there crowns/wisdom at you saying holy 9 times, meaning Months (pregnancy)....it is time to start paying attention to the waters that rush.

"And the leaves (children) are for the healing of the nations"

Peace



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia
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I don't disagree. I tell it a bit different, but I understand what you mean and hear you.

I think those who find salvation in the death of Jesus(in his blood) are those who find salvation in the lie. I view Jesus as being a sacrifice of truth, so that the live may live. What I find salvation and truth in with Jesus is in his life, his example, the father who speaks through him. Although I didn't learn this from Jesus, I learned it from the father. When I read Jesus after my experience, then I recognized the father being in Jesus.

Jesus is idolized in order to make it appear Jesus is something everyone else is not. But he is actually telling people that is not true. He tells them you must be born again, born anew, born of the spirit. They forget and ignore things like - and greater things than this can he do.

That is why I said those things about Mary not being a virgin. I believe this has been done to keep people from realizing the true births here. People think Mary is the virgin, so they can't see what it means to be born of the virgin. The catholic church seems to have just manipulated into meaning being born of Mary or something. Jesus is born of the virgin father, as we all are. To be born anew is really just to realize and understand it IMO, which as I mentioned above is very much like turning into a child and being born again, as your entire world perspective and understanding changes.

So don't find much disagreement there, it is understanding and meaning behind the words(to hear) that matters, rather than the specific words - as the scribes would have you believe. I think I get your meaning.


You are learning everything from Jesus, just as I am and even the ones who don't believe in him.

If people only understood that the names in the bible are the exact key to understanding it, life would be much clearer.

Jesus means "Self existent salvation". Try this, every time you see Jesus, insert "self existent salvation", then if you want to be blown away, look up every name you come across in the bible or even in life, and substitute the meaning of the name, where you see the name.

The day the lord showed me that, scales fell off of my eyes. It is another way the lord hides things in plain sight because we all missed, "In your name I have taught them father" ...God is not his name, but it is "I am" and "Self existent" and "Cause to become". Jesus, who's name is a contraction of Gods name taught in his name that which is salvation...."self existent".

Anyway, if you want seal lifted, do that. What is even cooler, is it is not only the names of people but of towns, Lakes, Rivers, Utensils, etc. The names fill in the stories.

For instance:

Jordan: Means "Descender".....Crossing the Jordan means Crossing descendent's or "Having children" and Bearing the "son of man" who is with all men.

Joseph: Means "Let him Add"
Mary: means Egypt literally
David: means Loved
Moses: means "Drawn Out"......Mick-key- MOUSE
Aaron: means "Exalted" and "Lucifer"
Ramah: means "Seat of Idolatry"
Uzziah: means "Uncovered"
Noah: means "Rest"......who by the way, never built a boat....that's a little funny the scribes, that you are to beware of, put in there. "Rest"s Arc is the one with the sphinx in front of it......"out of egypt I have called my people".
The names go on and on and on.

This is why the lord said he would teach us "here a little there a little"....one word at a time. If you are patient to do this, the bible will open up and become a living word...

"Yet they seek me daily as a nation that seeks to do righteousness."

Just always remember to answer...."here I am"....

Peace



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 05:24 PM
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Interesting, I actually do use the keys of Jesus also meaning the "truth", "the way" and the "light". And so when I read things, I do often substitute the words for these things to get more meaning out of it.

I know of other keys too and that the gnostic use them alot. Like Sophia meaning knowledge and such. But didn't know these, so I will give a try and see how it turns out.

The movie zeitgeist actually had the opposite effect on me than others. It was part of the reason I started looking at the bible more. The way I seen it, the truth stays the same, the names and characters change to meet the culture in order to bring understanding. So I do see such keys as being relevant and will give it a try.



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
 


Interesting, I actually do use the keys of Jesus also meaning the "truth", "the way" and the "light". And so when I read things, I do often substitute the words for these things to get more meaning out of it.

I know of other keys too and that the gnostic use them alot. Like Sophia meaning knowledge and such. But didn't know these, so I will give a try and see how it turns out.

The movie zeitgeist actually had the opposite effect on me than others. It was part of the reason I started looking at the bible more. The way I seen it, the truth stays the same, the names and characters change to meet the culture in order to bring understanding. So I do see such keys as being relevant and will give it a try.


What is so funny about zeitguist, zighiel, is that the producers don't see that it is all the same story, just like with the bible. They don't see Judah/Buddah or Niberu/Hebrew or Horus/Jesus. Sure they say it is all plagerism, but don't even realize....it IS the same stories.

Same story, inside one another, but always now.

Like people don't know that Cain and Able brought the offering for God at "the end of days". Cain and able are getting ready for the reveal coming soon, not in the past.

Like Jesus said, "If we would see the truth, then the rest would become clear".

My break was when I started reading the scripts in their language. It literally is a whole other story when you read it as such. It literally becomes living.

Here is the source I usescripture4all.org..., along with twot, Strongs and a few others. It has taken me a good three years to get all the way through it, because you will start on a word, then realize it is a stub of another word, so that by the time you are done reading one sentence, you have spent two hours tracing the words back to the original meanings, but walk away going...."that is what they meant? that has nothing to do with what the English version says...."

Then you get angry, because you realize, you've been not lied to the whole time, but rather had the truth twisted causing you to believe in things that are not true....not saying you believe in such, but when you read the original languages, or as close as we will get, you will be horrified at how twisting one word, can lead so many astray.

Now adays that is not even the case. Christianity has grown into something else. They make up what ever they want now like Raptures, and Eternal salvation, and Once saved always saved, but that is not truth.

Truth is verifiable. When I realized God said, "I did not tell jacob to seek me in vain", I realized, God is not Hidden. If he says he is true and manifest in the light, then surely "here I am".

Then I understand why "Self existent salvation" saw that it was not robbery to make himself equal to to god, because he is all men and all mankind is God. He didn't rest until the 7th day, from all HE is Making, for by him, all things are made.

1. LOVE yourself to the care of your "tabernacle"
2 LOVE your neighbors as yourself....

These are the greatest commandments and the first law given as so stated...
"Therefore a man MUST leave his father and mother and cling INSIDE of the woman of him, and the two become one flesh"....The son of man....A New Generation and a New Song, though we've sung it a thousand times before, we forget the past, so that, all things are new.

We only use 10% of our brains?.....funny God only keeps 10%

Peace

[edit on 25-2-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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You calling Jesus a false prophet? Are you saying Jesus lied in John 14? If Jesus was speaking with you now, you would deny and say the same things of him. If he didn't do exactly what you expected of him, you would denounce him no different than the Jews did, and for the same reason. You won't be happy until your religion is the only world religion. And if Jesus doesn't further your agenda as such, you will denounce him.

The reason so many accepted Paul, is because he actually did carry out such agendas. He appeals to politicians and so forth. All manipulation.

Paul takes that Jesus died and didn't fight back as to be submissive and supportive of authorities. WRONG. Jesus was killed because he was not submissive to authorities. Because he stood up and told the truth, and he threatened their authority. He did not fight back or kill anyone because to do so he would be breaking a commandment. And that is manipula







No no no, you truly twist things into what you want. I did not call Jesus a false prophet, that's truly insane.

I was saying false prophets say they are the ones with the holy ghost and nobody else has it. They use hidden words and false wisdom where it's not needed.



and you said the bible calls you a prophet? It calls those who live without sin the prophets. So that would make billions of Christians. And me too.

But it also calls those false prophets who are in the same belief as us that take scripture and twist it.

so basically I'm done with this thread. I'm tired of circular arguments that go nowhere. When you see Christ at the end he will show you his church and then you will realize what I'm saying.



what communion does for the soul I cannot put into words here, like the girl in my sig it caused her to go to great hieghts.

So think and believe what you want, Im going to let time do my talking.



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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And wisdom I speak, any understanding I have all comes from the father, but of course it was meant and given to me so that I could understand. If others understand me, great. If anyone just believes me, woe to them - I am not the teacher, I am not the master.





This is what I'm talking about. Son I too have wisdom, JJ does too, many others do too, what do you mean listen to (you) as if you're the focul point. This is exactly what false prophets do.

and btw you are unlearned in scripture and still use it's passages. learn full scripture if you are going to use passages from it.

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I too have wisdom and holy ghost from God, so are you saying everything I say is wrong>


see it's a he said she said deal.


have a good life brother, I am sure going to make sure I don't argue with you nomore seeing how you twist scripture.


bye and God bless you.

[edit on 25-2-2009 by JesusisTruth]



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth
No no no, you truly twist things into what you want. I did not call Jesus a false prophet, that's truly insane.

I was saying false prophets say they are the ones with the holy ghost and nobody else has it. They use hidden words and false wisdom where it's not needed.


Yes, you did. If Jesus was walking on the earth right now, you would call him a false prophet. If anyone came along and said the things Jesus did, you would call him a false prophet. And yet, saying the things Jesus did is to spread the true message.



and you said the bible calls you a prophet? It calls those who live without sin the prophets. So that would make billions of Christians. And me too.


I gave you the verse. Word for word. I had no idea it even said it, I gave my experience to someone and they were nice enough to point it out to me.



But it also calls those false prophets who are in the same belief as us that take scripture and twist it.


Or perhaps your version is the twisted one, and thus I would merely be untwisting.



so basically I'm done with this thread. I'm tired of circular arguments that go nowhere. When you see Christ at the end he will show you his church and then you will realize what I'm saying.


You should really stop using words like circular arguments if you don't know what they mean. In fact, you are the one using a circular argument here.




what communion does for the soul I cannot put into words here, like the girl in my sig it caused her to go to great hieghts.

So think and believe what you want, Im going to let time do my talking.


9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth
This is what I'm talking about. Son I too have wisdom, JJ does too, many others do too, what do you mean listen to (you) as if you're the focul point. This is exactly what false prophets do.


So you say such while insulting me by calling me son? You are not my father, and I am not your son. We are each our own focal points, because that is part of being a son of god, being a part of I am.

You preach about loving others as yourself, but then you scald anyone who actually does love themselves, call them full of pride, arrogance and putting themselves above others. How can you love others as yourself properly if you do not even love yourself?

Is this how you love yourself? By pushing yourself down anytime something may manifest within you?

You are a son of god - then start acting like it. You don't see Jesus pushing himself down do you? Is Jesus full of pride, full of arrogance? But yet, if anyone should have such characteristics, then you accuse them of such.



and btw you are unlearned in scripture and still use it's passages. learn full scripture if you are going to use passages from it.



16Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;


18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


21And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.


24The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

26Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

27What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


29Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

30But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.





I too have wisdom and holy ghost from God, so are you saying everything I say is wrong>


Sorry, but even the Pharisees were good at repeating knowledge. As Jesus would say - you tell it so well, now let me tell you what it means so you can actually understand it.



see it's a he said she said deal.


Only among those who accept authority as truth, rather than truth as authority.



have a good life brother, I am sure going to make sure I don't argue with you nomore seeing how you twist scripture.

bye and God bless you.


I'd rather live in the truth, than have a "good life". The scripture is a twist on the truth. And if you notice, I only quote from the gnostic texts in the new testament.


[edit on 25-2-2009 by badmedia]



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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In the matter of the OP I think they're great scriptures. And its these type of scripture that make me wunder how much of a soldier of christ I really am.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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In the matter of the OP I think they're great scriptures. And its these type of scripture that make me wunder how much of a soldier of christ I really am.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 01:49 AM
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The original church that Paul was told to establish was corrupted by pagan beliefs and the nicene council.

The church became a corporation when they decided to change the rules about priests being able to marry because their wealth was going to the widows and not the church coffers.

As much as I honor Mary I will not pray to her because the bible instructs us to pray to God, the father , in Jesus name only.

edit for spelling

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