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Survival weapons in the UK.

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posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 11:19 AM
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well i.m ex MOB meself, i work in the crane & plant hire world.. to get into these places ,(armourys).. i would consider no big deal (thats if there no threat... considering its a pandemic viris and were all thats left, bit like those zombie movies( there i said it ) cause thats why we are survivlists planning incase the ballon goes up. i did alot of demolition work using backho,s 360 excavator,s and the like,.. also using cutting gear chain saws and alittle crane work. i think you will need a good mix of skills from medic,s teacher,s construction formen,chef,s, to police personel along with your mix of military type minded chaps, its not gonna be easy surviving . and there will be savage desperite peaple out there wanting to take over or imprison your group.

[edit on 24-2-2009 by foxhoundone]




posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 12:45 PM
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The local cadet training base had a walk in safe room. Big thick door, keypad entry, surrounded by concrete and steel walled inside. IF i had unlimited time, a thermic lance and a bulldozer i reckon i could get in ok. Still all i would get access to would be the .22 rifles
No handguns either.

Attacking a real army base? Well i'd expect to either see some soldiers willing to kill me or someone else who got there before me. I think i'd avoid the whole thing tbh, maybe just heading to the local gun store would be easier. I mean they stock shotguns and rifles after all.



posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 12:50 PM
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A list of possible weopons sites with maps.......

Secret bases in the uk plus all the sites that come into use if sitx occurs.

homepage.ntlworld.com...



posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by cropmuncher
reply to post by johnconnor
 

A list of possible weopons sites with maps.......

Secret bases in the uk plus all the sites that come into use if sitx occurs.

homepage.ntlworld.com...



Translation: All the sites to avoid like Ebola should the wrong SitX strike.

I've said it before, i'll say it again, you can't break wind in this country without someone being down-wind from it.



posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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To be honest, I'm thankful that we have such restrictive firearms legislation in the UK

In a long-tern SHTF scenario, it'll be just as violent as in the US, but safer with the thought that I'd be far less likely to be looking down the wrong end of a barrel

No guns..
No nasty stingy insects.. (with the exception of an annoying wasp or two)
No vicious animals.. (except for your average chav)





[edit on 24-2-2009 by citizen smith]



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 02:47 PM
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Some mentioned earlier that the IRA used to use catapults against the British army in NI.
If this true ? if so were they a success ?



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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Yes, they did and yes some of them were very accurate.

Not a one liner


Rgds



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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It takes a fair bit of practice to get consistently accurate shots in with a catapult
but its a totally legal item that is considered more 'toy' than 'weapon' ...until you see what a 1/2" marble can do from 20-30m



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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I am really confused by the term "catapult" on this thread. Is that UK lingo for what we Americans call a slingshot? Because I have a very hilarious mental image right now of a man packing his bug out bag, and trying to stuff in a horse-drawn machine used to launch small boulders over castle walls...

Anyways, are you talking about home defense or every day carry? Because if it's at home, you could go with all kinds of things. Baseball bat, fire ax, chef's knife, crowbar, hammer, etc.

Outside the home you might have to get more creative. Somebody suggested a walking stick. I have to second that notion. A lightweight cane with a heavy metal knob would give you skull-cracking power and much better range than a knife. In fact, in a fight, I'd rather be the guy with the cane than the guy with a knife.

Another person posted a video of an unbreakable umbrella. Works if the forecast called for rain, but otherwise "meh."

Martial arts are also useful, but do some research to make sure you're taking classes that emphasize the "martial" over the "art."



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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I once had the pleasure of viewing an old IRA shotgun. It was 2 bits of metal. one that slotted into the other. The cartridge went inside, the two pieces were slammed together and a pin hit the back of the cartridge, setting it off. There was no trigger mechanism and seeing as the whole thing looked like a wheel brace, the IRA escaped detection for years. Wouldn't recommend this tho, not if you want to keep your fingers.



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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A catapult and slingshot are one in the same....as for slinging boulders at villages, that would be a trebuchet

I'm a big fan of the umbrella for survival as they're indispensible when out for a walk up t'moors and the clouds suddenly decend.

My method is if you can find a spot where two drystone walls join and open the canopy it'll keep the wind and rain at bay whilst you crack open a flask of coffee and check the OS map



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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I would personally get a double barreled shotgun. A long ranged rifle would be another choice. I would bring also bring a swiss knife And a machete and i could probably carry this all.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 02:12 AM
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has neone ever read Zombie Survival Guide? though fictional it does provide very pertinent information on weapons and their destructive capability to undead targets which are vastly superior to humans .... unless you account for intelligence .... good read ... but as my opinion lighten your load use common tools that have other purposes Crowbars are very effective in prying locked doors and dropping a 6'6 260 lb guy to the ground



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:15 AM
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With regard to the types of weapons mentioned here, and considering we're talking about the UK with its lack of firearms, what would be the minimum reqirement of body armour to protect against...

1) H-2-H stab injury?

2) Ranged weapons...particularly xbows?

I've given thought to how you could fabricate your own armour out of commonly available materials, and one of the better ones is the high-density-polymer chopping boards used in the kitchen

Most seem to be made from thermo-plastics, meaning that it can be cut to the basic shape ie: for a breastplate, and then heated in an oven and formed to its final shape over a mould (a clothes shop mannequin would be ideal for the job)

any other ideas?



[edit on 26-2-2009 by citizen smith]



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Or download a copy of anarchists cookbook - plenty of ideas in there


Not a good idea for several reasons...

Firstly...you risk blowing off hands/fingers or even turned into a cloud of pink mist of you try any of the reciepes for energetic materials

Secondly...It's 'flagged' info...the precedent for arrest and sentence just for ownership of such information has already been set



Boy in court on terror charges

The 17-year-old, who was arrested in the Dewsbury area of West Yorkshire on Monday, was given bail after a hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

It is alleged he had a copy of the "Anarchists' Cookbook", containing instructions on how to make home-made explosives.

His next court hearing has been set for 25 October.

The teenager faces two charges under the Terrorism Act 2000.

The first charge relates to the possession of material for terrorist purposes in October last year.

The second relates to the collection or possession of information useful in the preparation of an act of terrorism.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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Cant beat a good ol' English Cricket bat, not only can you batter someone around the head with it , its also not classed as an offensive weapon. In SitX event you hammer nails with it when building a shelter. Or defend yourself against a rampaging mob. or whilst waiting for the Government to get its act together and organise help for teh masses , you can keep the masses entertained by running cricket matches.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:38 AM
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lol - Were discussing arming ourselves, best weopons breaking into army bases & stealing firearms etc but its against the law to have a book on your computer? - thats crazy


Cheers for the tip off though cs



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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I'm all into kitting up, but below the radar!

Can you imagine the reaction of the police upon busting your door down for possession of said book and finding xbows, food cache maps, lists of military installations to be plundered for small-arms, etc?

You'd have your 15 minutes of fame on the front page of The Sun, and 15 years of clink to look forward to



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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Best thing if you want to download anything like that is go to an internet cafe with a memory stick large enough to keep the files, then download it onto your home pc.
No risk of them TPTB finding your ISP address, but the internet cafe might have a firewall which prohibits it though.
Try and find a 'unflavoursome' internet cafe, you know the type, they look rough and are normally poor to look at on the outside and are usually on the backstreets.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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TBH I'd rate the Anarchist Cookbook as nothing more than for entertainment value. Having read a friends paper copy some years ago, the instructions for the various reciepes are vague at best, and the diagrams were all in ASCII-character format..

If it were to be taken seriously, it would at the very least have hand-drafted schematics and have photos of the step-by-step critical processes

IMO I'd avoid it at all costs



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