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reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 03:59 PM by Anonymous ATS




reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 06:17 PM by BlackOps719
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by jimmy1200
why dont they just give the people like 20 grand each. i said that exact number, and that would give a major boost to the economy. its just gonna go right back to the business anyways, but at least it will help get people out of debt, or allow them to start some nice savings, or invest. whatever


Because it wouldn't get money moving. People would save it or pay off their debt but it wouldn't create jobs or change anything. After a couple months, when the money was spent or saved, we'd be right back here.

And there would be nothing to show for it. No railways, no new roads, no computers for schools, no jobs, no solar... And we'd be right back depending on foreign oil.





Well if that wouldn't "get money moving" as you said....where the hell is the first trillion dollars that they stole from the American tax payers? I dont exactly see where that money did anything to help anyone other than the same Wall Street criminals who caused this mess to begin with.

Where will this most recent $800 Billion dollar hijacking end up? Will this near trillion dollar ransom be put to use as well as the first one? These fools can't even devise a plan to help the very exact homeowners that they are declaring to be so concerned about!!

This is not a stimulus, it is an armed robbery. Call it what it is and dont pretend that the money being taken is being used to help the people of this country. Giving $20,000 to every tax paying citizen may not move the money around the way your man Obama wants it to, but it would damn sure make more sense that taking it and giving away to bankers and criminals and lobbyists like they have been doing.

At least this way someone who actually needs help may just get some, God forbid. Oh...but I guess that big fat $8-$20 per week increase on our paychecks will save us all like the great overlord has promised?

Please.





reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 06:39 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Well if that wouldn't "get money moving" as you said....where the hell is the first trillion dollars that they stole from the American tax payers? I dont exactly see where that money did anything to help anyone other than the same Wall Street criminals who caused this mess to begin with.


I gotta agree with you there. The $350B that Bush/Paulson gave to Wall Street padded their nest eggs, I think. We have no idea where that went. There was no accountability and tracking of it. The second $350B is scheduled to go to the same people, but under different management. There are strict rules being imposed. If they had used the money as they were supposed to, we might not be quite as bad off as we are a few months later.

I was and am against the bailout of Wall Street and the banks 100%.


Where will this most recent $800 Billion dollar hijacking end up?


Since you're asking that, I'm going to assume you wouldn't believe me if I told you because its already been discussed openly and
Recovery.org goes into detail about it.


At least this way someone who actually needs help may just get some, God forbid. Oh...but I guess that big fat $8-$20 per week increase on our paychecks will save us all like the great overlord has promised?


I'm not defending this stimulus plan. I'm just saying that handing out $20K to everyone wouldn't work to stimulate the overall economy for the long term. It would be a bump and then we'd still be here. The money has to be channeled into projects that will create jobs and leave us with something after it's spent.

And besides, $800B split among the people of the US gives us less than $3K each.


reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 07:18 PM by MagicaRose
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Your post is very interrsting.
Why don't you tell us exactly what a socialist is?


reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 07:24 PM by whaaa
Originally posted by MagicaRose
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post by johnsky



Your post is very interrsting.
Why don't you tell us exactly what a socialist is?


I have a great idea. Why don't you give google a try and YOU tell us
what you think a socialist is.

Here's a start.....en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 08:34 PM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



Historically people usually don't take action till they are desperate. Even as all kinds of stuff happened under the last administration, people wern't really desperate. People still had their homes, jobs, shopping, and American Idol.

Things have changed though. Many people have lost their retirements and investments. Many businesses have gone under. Many people have lost their homes and jobs. They have seen things go from bad to worse in Washington. The economy is doing worse now than it was before any so called stimulus. No one is being held accountable and corruption is rampant. Both parties are in denial and blaming each other rather than taking responsibility.

If things continue on this course, the anger of these millions of people will become action.

What scares me is that I think this is exactly what people like Soros want, a destabilized, bankrupt and fragmented America. An America in default to China. A nightmare scenario that results in a collapse like the Soviet Union's.


reply posted on 22-2-2009 @ 09:28 PM by Aermacchi
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