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US TAXPATRIATES - This is how our Jobs went overseas

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posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 01:58 PM
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I can't believe how stupid our government really is until I read this guy's article explaining what happened or should i say about to happen.

I also thought that NAFTA and GATT was the soul reason that our jobs went overseas. It was the IRS and Congress that actually put the final nail in the coffin and we all know who owns the IRS.




Keep in mind that most of those expats are wealthy, since poor people can't afford to leave. In fact, millions of poor people risk their lives in the back of trailers or crossing Arizona desert every year, to take advantage of our increasing welfare state. It is the wealthy, who are leaving and they represent lost US investment dollars and subsequently, LOST US JOBS.





When government punishes the wealthy simply for the sin of being wealthy, should we be surprised if the wealthy, who have the wherewithal to live anywhere that they please, choose a more wealth friendly country, as their home?


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The problem of which I am talking is a direct result of the position in which the wealthy now find themselves. The wealthy are being systematically backed into a corner by our government. The wealthy are:
* paying double their share of taxes
* facing frivolous lawsuits by the greedy, in ever growing numbers * losing any semblance of privacy in their business transactions * having their business dealings saddled with onerous Patriot Act and Sarbanes-Oxley Act requirements that often take so much time and cost so much money that otherwise profitable deals end up costing money, if they happen at all
* having their property confiscated (forfeited*) by the government, at an ever increasing rate


I thought the rich didn't pay taxes....Looks like someone started the rumor mill, of course they didn't pay taxes, they were forced to leave the US....The IRS?!?.




These laws are clearly aimed at punishing anyone who has the audacity to be rich and leave with their wealth, intact. If the IRS and lawmakers are not very seriously concerned about the number of wealthy taxpayers who are leaving IRS jurisdiction, then what reason would they have to pass such autocratic laws? Think about it... Actions speak louder than words. If hundreds of thousands of the wealthiest Americans are not now structuring their holdings in preparations for leaving the USA, why did the Senate even considering a bill like the Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 1999 (S. 1701) that demanded that not only foreign nationals, but US citizens alike, disclose any and all financial information about foreign holdings that the government seeks or lose all future legal right to challenge any property forfeiture in any US court? (Don't take my word for it. Click on the link and read it for yourself.) Actions speak louder than words. Fortunately, that one was narrowly defeated.





I mentioned earlier that I have interviewed many American expats about their reasons for leaving. Until six years ago, the number one reason for leaving, cited by EVERY expat that I talked with, had something to do with the IRS - not the Income Tax, but the IRS. When I asked them to be more specific, they cited IRS abuses and witch hunts, lack of privacy in their financial dealings, hundreds of thousands of pages of incomprehensible and contradictory laws from which the IRS picks and chooses and let us not forget, the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act of 1996 and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which are nothing more than covert tools of the IRS.





One of the most absurd statements that I have heard, in response to the above facts is, "So what? Let'em leave." In fact, that attitude is actually contributing to the problem and making it much worse. You see, as a result of one of the laws that I will discuss below, designed to punish the wealthy for leaving, the wealthy are now taking ALL of their investment capital with them, when they leave and therein, lies the true problem. When the wealthy leave, it creates severe problems for the rest of us, since we are the ones who have to make up the difference in taxes. What really surprises me is that even a few well-meaning conservatives, who realize that the real problem is Native Capital Flight, have fallen into the greed trap, right along with the liberals.


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But, just like the Health Insurance Portability Act of 1996 (26 USC 877(a)(1)), that seeks to tax the income of expatriate Americans for ten years after they renounce citizenship and the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) of 1996, (8 USC 1182(a)(10)(E)), that prohibits these so-called taxpatriates from ever returning to the US for any reason, both of which are individually responsible for the exodus of BILLIONS of DOLLARS of investment capital






History has shown repeatedly, that as countries make it more difficult for investors to legally transfer money offshore, more and more wealthy law abiding citizens, justly fearing that the day is fast approaching when they will become economic prisoners of their own government,


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The national sales tax would be paid at the cash register by all consumers when they purchased goods and services from retail establishments. Sales of all goods and services would be taxed at the same rate. Elimination of all federal income taxation in the United States would end taxation of all capital income, including capital gains. In the short run, the rate of the proposed national sales tax would be roughly 17 percent.


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I do Apologize for all cut and paste, It's a long read. So, let me get this right.... our infamous government got greedy and with the help of the IRS, passed laws that demonize the wealthiest of US, and by passing these laws and a little bit of harassment caused the rich to flee and never to return to the US again, not to even see the grandkids. Harassed, The rich took all the wealth this nation had and sat up shop in another country.

AND this is the reason the US is TANKING.




posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Thank you for sharing all of this info.

But I disagree that this is THE reason for he economy collapsing --'wealthy' people leaving. To be honest, only the good ones probably left. The worst stayed, probably knowing that bail-outs were on the way.

Though, I think government corruption and irresponsibility had a lot to do with it, too. If it was not for government needing to be so BIG, the sheer amount of taxes needing to be collected would diminish to a more manageable amount.

I hope those who can afford to, do leave. Tough times ahead.
(the money they worked so hard for their whole life is losing value immensely)

I just wish I could join them.


[edit on 21-2-2009 by LostNemesis]



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by LostNemesis
Thank you for sharing all of this info.

But I disagree that this is THE reason for he economy collapsing --'wealthy' people leaving. To be honest, only the good ones probably left. The worst stayed, probably knowing that bail-outs were on the way.

Though, I think government corruption and irresponsibility had a lot to do with it, too. If it was not for government needing to be so BIG, the sheer amount of taxes needing to be collected would diminish to a more manageable amount.

I hope those who can afford to, do leave. Tough times ahead.
(the money they worked so hard for their whole life is losing value immensely)

I just wish I could join them.


[edit on 21-2-2009 by LostNemesis]



forgive me for taking so long to reply, got hit a nasty virus and needed to redo my whole windows.

It appears the government and the feds are out to 'scrape up the bones' as one might call it, everywhere I turn the government and fed has their hands in the cookie jar. your right about one thing, the bad or crooked stayed behind. next they will be coming after your 'high' valued items.

so much for the american dream!!.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 01:42 AM
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I don't buy it, everyone has a scenario.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 01:46 AM
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It's about corporations taking their business oversee, thus taking away jobs in the US. Thanks to the IRS and the cronnies that leech on the tax payers money.

Seriously, they tax us over 20 percent of our income taxes. Five tax payers can paid for one goverment employee, then we get tax for all sorts of other things, like property taxes. On top of that the feds print there own money. Where the hell did all the money go? Somebody needs to be drag down the streets and be lynch by the people.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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I saw a little documentary on the idiot tube last month about a guy who spent over a million dollars out of his own pocket searching for wreckage off the Florida keys, he loved doing it. he found his treasure of boxes and boxes of old silver and gold coins.

The government stepped in and demanded 'all' of the treasure. the guy offered to pay his fair share of taxes on the find, but the government refused saying 'all of it'. they both went to court and again the government stated 'all of the gold and silver'. so as it went, the judge awarded all of the gold and silver to guy because he invested his own money and the government invested none of it.

That shows how the greed of the people we have in congress.



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