Hip-hop indeed comes from Freemasonic practices, page 2
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reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 11:01 AM by On_The_Level
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Originally posted by Loke.
mate you are way off base here, i did start my musical career around 84 and it started with Hip hop, and as in all genres we stayed true to hip hop. We never heard anything around any freemasonery in that circle of trust. Sorry to burst you ideas here..

Also please take a look on this Eminem video and then tell me again that he is high fiving the Freemason´s
Video here cannot be embeded

[edit on 21-2-2009 by Loke.]

[edit on 21-2-2009 by Loke.]


First of all, hip-hop started in the 70's.

The "Illuminati" has always co-opted every pre-existing social movement, including Freemasonry and hip-hop. Coincidentally, Afrika Bambaataa never invented hip-hop but claims ownership of it through the "Universal Zulu Nation."

That song is called "Mosh"
Is that "Freemason's" or "Freemasons" ? There isn't any high-fiving, but there are lots of other hand signs.
I'm sure you know that the book Eminem is reading is "My Pet Goat." The "anti-war movement" and anti-authoritatianism are the Illuminati playing one side against the other. The people are wearing "revolutionary" military fatigues and black "hoods," which are more Illuminati symbols.


I can see that you truly believe this stuff, so ill just let you be. Even though you are WAYYY off base.


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 12:55 PM by Privy_Princess
Originally posted by ConservativeJack
Originally posted by Privy_Princess
What I'm seeing on this thread is a lot of disrespect to the art of rap and the hip-hop culture in general.

That is a big mistake to be making, especially in this day and age. Everyone should know by now that you are to NEVER underestimate anything person, place, thing, idea, etc...

Like it or not, rap is very powerful in today's society, shaping more young minds than any other art form around.

I think the OP makes really good connections. The proof is out there, and you just have been given a good deal of it. Do with it what you will....


stop dude

just stop

rap?

it hit its prime in the 90s when they 2pac and Big died

it doesn't sell anymore

rap isn't big anymore

nobody is buying rap cds

theres no big rap stars

stop pretending



The music that you consider to be worthy of the rap title is of your own opinion. I don't disagree with your opinion, actually.

What I'm talking about is all the music that is being labled rap nowadays. It may not be to your (or my) liiking, but it is still called rap.

There are no big rap stars? Really? I have never seen rap stars with so much power and prestige as they have today.

Talent? Questionable. Power? DEFINITELY.

And it begs to be answered, where does the power come from? I highly doubt that Jay Z could have entrepreneured his way up the ladder to where he is today.

There's definitley an agenda, folks. This is the ENTERTAINMENT industry we're talking about, after all. It is an artistic discipline, which means there are rules.

Don't underestimate it.



reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 01:27 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by vcwxvwligen


This is a non-sequitar argument. I'm going to comment on certain points you made, but first I must say this. Just because a group of people has some custom doesn't mean they are the only ones who use it.

I don't get where you say "no snitching" is a Masonic thing. We instruct our members to keep the secrets they have been entrusted with. If you are alluding to that we don't snitch to the authorities if a brother has a committed a crime, you are even more wrong.

The whole "dame" comment isn't even related to Freemasonry. The clothing comment made me laugh.

The "G" does not mean generativity. I guess the obvious answer is just too obvious for you. There is no sexuality in Freemasonry.

Again, for the millionth time, there is no god of Freemasonry. There is only the God the individual brother worships. We allow men of every faith in and do not push one religious view or the other; religion and politics is not to be spoken about in the Lodge.

You seem to have a lot of sexual leaning beliefs about the Freemasons? Do you think we are a sexual cult? We are not.

You are desperately trying to connect dots (style, fly, etc) to Freemasonry. Probably, might be, these are not words that impress upon the reader that Freemasonry is "indeed" connected to hip-hop. You speak of absolutes, but back it up using possibilities and coincidences.

"Props" are used during Masonic rituals.

So Freemasonry is the only group that uses props? No one else in the entire world uses props? This is just more evidence for my non-sequitar statement.

You've basically taken a few words that may be Masonic and tried to tie them to hip-hop. From reading your thread I can tell you don't know the true meaning of anything Masonic, but you've still tried to connect some dots.

A "master of ceremonies" is present at every Masonic lodge.

What position is this called?

The phrase "It's on" probably comes from "Jah-Bul-On."

How does "It's on" probably comes from "Jah-Bul-On."? How? You are reaching here?

The burning of incense comes from the same initiation rite.

Churches do this too.

And how is Freemasonry "partially" a sun-worshipping cult? How do you partially worship?

reply to post by vcwxvwligen


Boaz and Jachin are in the Bible so using your thinking process hip-hop comes from the Bible.

Blue is the color for Craft Masonry (the Blue Lodge) because the color blue denotes loyalty. The Military Intelligence Corps of the US Army uses Blue as their color.

You can't use probabilities to show absolutes, it's a not a logical argument.

The phrase "I am that I am" also comes from the Bible; Exodus 3:14 (KJV)


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 01:37 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by On_The_Level


Somehow a poor mutation of the English language is Masonic. Didn't you know?

reply to post by vcwxvwligen


Again, what's with the sexuality complex?

reply to post by Kandinsky


No it was illogical and badly done. He spoke of absolutes, but supported it with possibles or probables.

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