posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 05:44 PM
This is to Tamahu:
I myself am into egypt and the study of all kind of ancient practices and relgions, I'm not a mason. A lot of these rappers are into the same stuff
as me, they like to study. Thats all it is, it doesnt make them masons. I even agree with a lot of these rappers ideas, that doesnt make me a mason
And I agree with some of the things you are saying, what I was really trying to point out in this thread is that a lot of the stuff in the original
post is stupid and not true and twisted all around.
Everyone knows Rasul Allah, atleast people who know who he is, is a mason (hes also a member of LOTS of different "organizations"). He doesnt even
hide it. Most masons PROUDLY tell people they are masons, because they have nothing to be ashamed of. And sure you got me, most of the lost children
of babylon are masons. I dont know if thats how you connect vinnie paz to masonry, but just so you know, vinnie paz stoped associating with lost
children of babylon back in the LATE 90S. If you listen to all vinnies music (except their first cd) the lost children of babylon are not on a SINGLE
SONG. And as far as I know vinnie paz wants nothing to do with them. I think its because he doesnt have the same beliefs... etc that they have.
It even says so on the lost children of babylon myspace page. It says they started going different directions, I take this as vinnie didnt agree with
I don't know where you get the idea that the group randam luck are masons... just because of their album cover? I need more proof then that. All
kinda people who are known to be not masons have stuff like that on their album cover. Also the album is called Conspiracy and Lies or something like
that, you ever think that maybe they are trying to EXPOSE all that stuff rather than endorse it or anything (not that masonry is evil or anything).
And why do you even listen to this music if you are so against everything they are saying? You appear to know quite a bit about hip hop but also
appear to be in disagreement with most of it, WHY DO YOU EVEN LISTEN?
I cant beileve you point out jedi mind tricks of all groups. So what you are basically saying is if ANYONE mentions freemasonry or ANYTHING mason
related in their music that makes them a mason? Well then if thats true then I could call you a mason too because you appear to konw a little about
Thats the same thing these rappers do, they know a little about masonry from reading books and stuff so they'll occasionally make a rhyme about it. I
personally wouldn't read to much into it. And once again, most these rappers believe in reptilians and greys and all kinda conspiracy theories(so are
you really gonna believe most the stuff they are saying, most rappers are crazy in the head, I still like them, but its true)
And why do you think masons are so evil anyways? Just because YOU disagree with some of their practices? Not everyone thinks the same as you do. Learn
to open your mind for christ sakes.
All you can point out is a OCCASIONAL rhyme a mc will say, and all those rhymes you point out are OBVIOUS metaphors. Most these mcs you are quoting
are well read and know about all this stuff, so its not that far off to think theyd occasionally make a rhyme around it.
Most rappers don't follow ANY of that stuff you mentioned in your post. A few select do. Most blacks don't follow that stuff either, none I know
atleast. The average black person actually thinks people like 5 percenters and them are CRAZY.
I donno why you linked to that "Kabbalistic Order of Baphomet" that appears to just be a guy who makes beats.. a dj or producer or something lol. It
even says under his name "tuntablism, hip hop, funk", hes just simply a artist. I don't get where you are going with that link.
what would these rappers being trying to hide? I don't get it. Most masons will OPENLY tell people they are masons, and have nothing to hide. So I
don't where you are going with this. Why would rappers (lol rappers, of all people) be some of the only ones hiding that they are masons, when
everyone else will openly tell anyone they are mason? This makes no sense to me. ONCE AGAIN, PEOPLE WHO ARE MASONS ARE PROUD!!
What you don't seem to realize is a lot of these things you are quoting are OBVIOUS METAPHORS. And that first vinnie paz line you quoted is a OBVIOUS
metaphor, and he obviuosly just wrote that cause it sounded cool and rhymed with illest or whatever lol. And building means to talk to eachother and
spread knowledge to eachother. Thats what building means in hip hop lingo (it comes from 5 percenters). A lot of 5 percenter lingo does sound the same
as masonry type stuff, but I really don't think theres some big conspiracy here. Sure there are probably 5 percenters that are mason, but there are
also islamic people, christian people, jewish people, ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE who are masons.
All i'm simply saying is I see NO PROOF that ANY OF THESE RAPPERS ARE MASONS, except a few underground rappers. I personally don't believe any of
the bigtime rappers are masons.
[edit on 27-6-2009 by jouseroni]