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State Senator Dan Patrick… “TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD ON ALERT

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posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by sylvrshadow
Hi All,

Hmmmmmm, I wonder why washington was dragging its feet?! I guess one could assume the "bigger fish to fry" angle, but according to the description of the situation, you would think that at least someone in washington would realize the potential that situation has to turn into something large and nasty.

Then of course [tin foil hat on!!] maybe those in washington want something to happen as a good excuse for:

a- A distraction for the american public so that other things can get done unnoticed.

b- A reason to pass more laws to help keep us safe ...


c- _____________ (insert something here that just doesnt make sense.)


Whatever the reason, I am glad that TX is acting on their own to take care of the situation. I hope things dont get out of hand.


I think we are seeing one of the new tactics being used by this administration.

See what happened in Tibet when Clinton said that we would ignore China’s poor humanitarian actions.

Now if they ignore the calls for help from Texas, well, you can’t blame the government if China kills a bunch of Tibetans and you can’t blame the government if Texans kill a bunch of Mexicans.

Wait! That will be one of their sound bites. “You can’t blame us for what people do.”




posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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anything new? any new developments?



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Yes, this was just posted yesterday:
www.rationalreview.com...

Mexican drug wars may cross into Arizona Source: Arizona Republic Posted on 02.24.09 by Steve Trinward

“Violence involving Mexican narcotics cartels threatens to bleed across the border into Arizona and other states already coping with an epidemic of drug-related murders and kidnappings, law-enforcement officials told an Arizona Senate subcommittee on Monday. During their testimony, the experts described recent gunbattles just south of the border where Mexican gangs fought rival cartels as well as police, blasting away with machine guns and lobbing hand grenades. ‘This is organized crime,’ said Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard. ‘The enemy we are combating is extremely well organized, extremely disciplined and extremely well trained.’ Goddard joined federal, state and local police leaders in a state Judiciary Committee session convened to evaluate the effects and perils of border-related violence.” (02/24/09)



posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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If and when this conflict pours into Texas it will, at the very most, last one day. I have a ranch right outside of Bracketville which is on the border and I guarantee you their will be tens of thousands of Texans who will eagerly go fix this problem.

Stay informed and prepare for the inevitable.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:08 AM
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Cartel roundup in U.S. nets 750
EL PASO -- The Sinaloa drug cartel, at the heart of vicious drug war in Juárez that has claimed more than 1,900 lives, was the target of an extensive law-enforcement operation to disrupt its cells in U.S. cities, including El Paso, officials said Wednesday.

Drugs seized in the operation included more than 8 tons of marijuana, 13.2 tons of coc aine, 17.6 pounds of heroin and 1.3 million Ecstasy pills. Authorities also seized three airplanes, 149 vehicles, 169 weapons and more than $6.5 million in other assets.

The battle has unleashed a fury of violence, in which victims have been decapitated, burned, hanged and shot in broad daylight. High police officials and patrol officers have been shot and killed, and soldiers have been called in to help limit the violence. More than 1,900 people have died since January 2008.

Victor Valencia de los Santos, Juaárez's state government representative, told the Associated Press he expected the federal government to send 5,000 more troops and 2,000 extra police to Chihuahua.

Tuesday, on a visit to El Paso, Texas Gov. Rick Perry asked the U.S. government for more than $135 million and 1,000 troops to help guard the border.

Also Wednesday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told the House Homeland Security Committee that drug-related violence in Mexico has become one of her top priorities. She has asked for an assessment of past U.S. military border security operations.

www.elpasotimes.com...

Gov. Perry wants U.S. troops guarding border
The federal Mexican National Commission of Human Rights reported that organized crime had killed more than 10,000 people in Mexico since 2007. In Juárez, authorities said, drug violence was to blame for taking nearly 1,900 lives since 2008.

"I don't care if they are military, National Guard or customs agents. We're very concerned that the federal government is not funding border security adequately. We must be ready for any contingency."
Other officials at the news conference included Mayor John Cook, state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso, Texas Homeland Security Director Steve McCraw, El Paso Police Chief Greg Allen and former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey.
Shapleigh, who called his own news conference later, said he agreed with some of Perry's proposals but not with using the military to guard the border.
"No one in El Paso supports militarization of the border," Shapleigh said. "I support 1,000 new effectively trained Border Patrol or customs agents, but not the use of the military."

www.elpasotimes.com...



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by geo1066
Shapleigh, who called his own news conference later, said he agreed with some of Perry's proposals but not with using the military to guard the border.
"No one in El Paso supports militarization of the border," Shapleigh said. "I support 1,000 new effectively trained Border Patrol or customs agents, but not the use of the military."

www.elpasotimes.com...




this is the reason i hate democrats so much. and this is why they are seen as America hating immigrant loving nut cases. They just dont see the right version of how things need to be, which is why i will probably never vote for a democrat .



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:27 AM
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I like how Shapleigh says no one in ElPaso wants the military involved especially when our largest army base, Ft. Bliss, is right there. The cajones on him!



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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seems like all this turmoil in mexico has to be let run rampant until it gets big enough and warrants our gov. to invade and conquer then install the mock government compliant with the new world order. wheres the local militia?



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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The only way Texas will get anyones attention is to cut off all supplies to the rest of the socialist republic of the US. The US depends on Texas to supply oil, meat, and a myriad of other things that are a necessity to everyday life. If Texas takes a stand and says enough is enough then other states will follow. When the Warner/Lieberman bill goes into effect and they institute the cap and trade scheme to ration energy and drive the cost of fuel to $5.00 is Texas going to just sit back and let them get away with it? It's time we stood tall as Texans always have and let Disney Land on the Potomac wake up to the fact that WE pay their salaries, OUR tax dollars purchased all the national parks they claim as theirs, THEY do not own Alaska, THEY DO NOT OWN TEXAS and WE will safe guard our heritage. GOD BLESS AMERICA and GOD BLESS TEXAS.



posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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It has become obvious how the new Dumbocratic administration and Congress are going to handle issues. They will just lie.
First of all, many ATS members on this thread from Texas have stated that they welcome the National Guard, so for a Dumbocrat to say no one wants them is a LIE

Second, Obama said that there was no PORK in the last bill. My God, everyone knows there was more pork in that bill than on a pig farm!


When something is wrong, they just STICK their HEADS in the sand (or perhaps somewhere else.
) and DENY, DENY, DENY, which rhymes with LIE,LIE,LIE.

Yeah, sure the economy is going to get better. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"-Dumbocratic motto


[edit on 26-2-2009 by ProfEmeritus]



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 12:14 PM
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anyone see what might be?

mexicos government falls its becomes like the afghanistan/taliban

al queda moves from pakistan to mexico and fixed bases operations over the boarder.

becomes mogadishu but 1000 times worse.

dallas,phoenix,etc gets a nbc attack.

world ends in 2012.

"end of days" anyone?



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
We have troops all over the world and Mexico is on the verge of collapsing yet NOT A DAMN THING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.




What the hell are they waiting for? DO SOMETHING OBAMA!!

DO SOMETHING BESIDES HELP SEND THIS COUNTRY FURTHER INTO BANKRUPTCY!!!


He is going to do something he is going to reinstitute the assualt weapons ban. Apparently that has something to do with what is going on down there according to Holder.

These people dont solve real problems, they just create them. I am tired of it, and like you I am tired of watching people around me walking around like a bunch of mindless f ing sheep.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
S & F Prof

This is what FREAKING happens when we ignore PROBLEMS.

Damnit it's all going to hell.

Keep watching American Idol everyone and keep wishing this crap doesn't show up on your doorstep.








Ditto



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by longwell 547

Originally posted by David9176
We have troops all over the world and Mexico is on the verge of collapsing yet NOT A DAMN THING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.




What the hell are they waiting for? DO SOMETHING OBAMA!!

DO SOMETHING BESIDES HELP SEND THIS COUNTRY FURTHER INTO BANKRUPTCY!!!


He is going to do something he is going to reinstate the assault weapons
ban. Apparently that has something to do with what is going on down there according to Holder.

These people don't solve real problems, they just create them. I am tired of it, and like you I am tired of watching people around me walking around like a bunch of mindless f ing sheep.


After Obama reinstates the assault weapons ban, he will mandate that we use our measly-weasley tax rebates be spent on automobile tuneups. Then when the BIG BALLOON goes up & "Obama's Southern Immigrant Aliens" move in mass, swelling faster than you can pop them in the butt with a BB Gun, Barry H. will federalize all civilian tune-ups into Taxis to move the Mexi's north faster.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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He is going to do something he is going to reinstitute the assualt weapons ban. Apparently that has something to do with what is going on down there according to Holder.


I believe that he is doing this because he and his henchmen know that people have had it with what is going on in this country, and he is afraid that the militias might take things into their own hands. Good luck trying to get the militias assault weapons.



posted on Feb, 27 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by sylvrshadow
Hi All,

Hmmmmmm, I wonder why washington was dragging its feet?! I guess one could assume the "bigger fish to fry" angle, but according to the description of the situation, you would think that at least someone in washington would realize the potential that situation has to turn into something large and nasty.

Then of course [tin foil hat on!!] maybe those in washington want something to happen as a good excuse for:

a- A distraction for the american public so that other things can get done unnoticed.

b- A reason to pass more laws to help keep us safe ...

I would say B. As of today i seen on the news that obama is reinstating the ban on assault rifles and the like of guns. The reason behind this was to help out with the mexican war. so to help with mexico they (The Gov't) puts another rule on our 2nd amendment.
i am also new to this sight, just found it yesterday so sorry if I screw up posting



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 12:36 AM
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We need to make the border twenty miles wide and give it to Israel.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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If your keepng up on this thread, here's some of the latest news..

Mexican troops reinforce besieged border city
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Nearly 2,000 Mexican soldiers poured into Ciudad Juarez on Saturday to restore law and order to the country's most violent city, which has been ravaged by drug gangs.

This month hitmen fighting for lucrative smuggling routes killed 250 people in the city, which is across the U.S. border from El Paso, Texas.

The soldiers are the first contingent of as many as 5,000 troops and federal police being sent to Juarez.

Almost 2,500 soldiers and federal police have been there for nearly a year, but they have failed to curb the violence plaguing the city of about 1.6 million people.

"This is to reinforce the operation in general ... to eradicate kidnappings, extortion, assaults and homicide," army spokesman Enrique Torres told Reuters.

President Felipe Calderon's military operation is supported by the United States, which is concerned the violence could destabilize Mexico, a key trading partner, and spill over the border.

Mexico has deployed some 45,000 troops across the country to try to crush drug gangs, but clashes between rival cartels and security forces killed around 6,000 people last year. (Reporting by Julian Cardona, writing by Noel Randewich)
www.alertnet.org...

Spring Breakers Warned About Travel To Mexico
Areas Along American Border Cited As Potentially Dangerous

POSTED: 2:07 am CST March 1, 2009


MADISON, Wis. -- While University of Wisconsin students are looking forward to spring break in just two weeks, the U.S. State Department is issuing new travel warnings.

Citing rising violence in the country, the State Department is asking the estimated 100,000 American college students that head to Mexico for spring break every year to take extra caution.

Officials said that among the U.S.-Mexico border, escalating violence by Mexican drug cartels has created dangerous situations, including large firefights in some towns.

Travel agencies are informing students of the situation while reassuring travelers that popular destinations like Cancun are generally safer.

Emily Lavalier with STA Travel said, "The concern I guess isn't in the resort areas where people are asking for at this point. If they said they wanted to go up near the north of Mexico though, I think it would be a totally different story."

Some universities, including the Univeristy of Arizona, the University of Colorado, Penn State, and UW-La Crosse have sent travel advisories to students.

The State Department has more information on the situation in Mexico, as well as other information for spring break travelers that can be found on its Web site.
www.channel3000.com...

Oh-oh, here it goes about the U.S. being involved in the gun smuggling-

Mexico wants U.S. to stop gun smugglers
BY TRACI CARL • ASSOCIATED PRESS • March 1, 2009

MEXICO CITY -- Mexico blames Americans for arming the world's most powerful drug cartels, a complaint supported Friday by a U.S. government report that found nearly all of Mexico's escalating drug killings involved weapons from north of the border.

www.freep.com...

Violence spillover: Official assures contingency plan in place
El Paso Times Staff
Posted: 03/01/2009 12:00:00 AM MST
A bit more than one week ago, Juárez police Chief Roberto Orduña Cruz resigned. Juárez Mayor Jose Reyes Ferriz and his family are living in El Paso.
Last Sunday, a bodyguard of Chihuahua Gov. Jose Reyes Baeza Terraza was killed in a shooting.
The U.S. State Department has issued a new travel alert for people thinking about traveling in Mexico, particularly to border cities. Texas state Homeland Security Director Steve McCraw said Monday that Mexican drug cartel-generated violence has spilled over into the United States.

With spring breaks coming up, the University of Arizona has issued a travel advisory urging students not to travel to Mexico, and Arizona State University and Northern Arizona University are planning similar warnings.

And those are just recent events involving the rapidly escalating violence along the and elsewhere in Mexico.

Yet U.S. law-enforcement agencies, from the federal through local levels, seem determined to downplay the violence and danger. That in itself could be dangerous.

A major concern in El Paso is the possibility of violence spilling over into this city. Possibility? More like reality, according to most experts.

McCraw said, "Yes, absolutely it has occurred; there's no question about it. Anything that involves cartel activity that impacts Texans on this side of the border is, by definition, spillover violence." He spoke after a hearing before the House Committee on Border and International Affairs in Austin.

McCraw


said events such as threats against U.S. citizens, Mexican nationals seeking asylum in the U.S. and individuals seeking medical treatment at U.S. hospitals for injuries suffered in Juárez do, indeed, constitute a spillover of violence.
However, those are benign examples when compared with what's happening across the border -- ambushes, assassinations, daylight gun battles, kidnappings, beheadings, torture and more. And you can't tell the good guys from the bad guys.

McCraw said Texas officials have a contingency plan for dealing with any large-scale violence. and that government agencies -- state, local and federal -- are working to prevent anything big. One can only hope that is true and that whatever plans are in place can deal with the levels of violence and brutality exhibited by the cartels.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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The crisis in Mexico

Many Americans believe our nation’s most troublesome issue with Mexico is illegal immigration. In reality, it’s something far more sinister: a war on Mexico’s government by the country’s increasingly powerful and deadly violent drug cartels. The cartels, ironically, are armed chiefly by American gun stores operating under our disastrously lax regulation. But while gun sales here could easily be tightened, and should be, Mexico’s war with its narco-state gangs is a far more difficult problem — one that threatens spill-over effects and critical foreign policy issues in the United States.

Last year more than 6,000 Mexicans were killed — some first cruelly tortured and maimed, others beheaded — in drug-related violence. To put than number in perspective, contrast it with the 4,251 American soldiers killed in six years of war in Iraq.

Mexican drug gangs now use rocket-propelled grenades, rapid-fire assault rifles and bombs. They’ve infiltrated municipal and state police forces and the army to get intelligence. They attack heavily armed convoys guarding the travel of regional governors, and they boldly assassinate high-ranking military officials and the top staff of the country’s drug czars.

Just as they have grown and expanded their wars from turf fights with rival cartels into full-scale battles with government troops, they’ve also expanded their criminal reach into extortion of businesses and citizens, and the establishment of Mafia-style tax systems on their frightened subjects.

Just across the border from El Paso, Texas, teachers in Ciudad Juarez, for instance, were threatened with death at Christmas if they didn’t surrender their annual holiday bonuses. A General Motors distributorship in one mid-size city reportedly paid extortion for months at a time.

A municipal police chief was warned last week that policemen under his charge would be systematically killed every day until he resigned. He immediately resigned. That was hardly surprising given the seemingly irrepressible level of violence.

Though it is spreading, most of the violence presently occurs in three of the biggest Mexican states along the 2,000 mile border with the United States. Mexico’s three biggest drug cartels focus their control there to guard their trafficking routes. That traffic flows both ways: 90 percent of the coc aine in the U.S. comes through Mexico, and 90 percent of the firearms those gangs use to control their turf, terrorize citizens and fight federal forces flows back across the border from the United States.

The growing threat from Mexico’s drug war has understandably become a serious concern for America’s foreign and domestic policy experts. Retired general Barry McCaffrey wrote recently that Mexico could become a failed state, and a narco-state, within a decade. CIA director Michael Hayden has classified Mexico as a challenge for the Unites States equal in significance to Iran.

Much more than drug use, criminal activity and spill-over violence is at stake for the United States. Mexico is America’s third largest trading partner, third largest source of oil, and a huge supplier of natural gas. Mexico’s failure would threaten business ties. It also would spur a wave of refugees across our southern border.

Mexico, in fact, must now be counted as one of President Obama’s largest and most immediate foreign policy and domestic issues. Like all the other large problems now on his plate, it has reached a crisis point at least partly through the neglect of the prior administration. Still, it can’t be ignored any longer.

www.timesfreepress.com...
Mexico drug crimes leave border at odds
FORT HANCOCK — Gale Carr and his neighbors farm thousands of acres of cotton and chile peppers on America’s fortified frontier, across a trickling Rio Grande from what’s been called Mexico’s Valley of the Beheaded.

The violence has claimed more than 1,000 lives in Mexico so far this year, U.S. and Mexican officials said. About half have been killed in Chihuahua state, which borders West Texas, and many of those in Ciudad Juarez and the villages downstream from it.

The police chief and five of his officers were kidnapped from a community near Carr’s 3,000-acre farm a few weeks ago. Their detached heads turned up for days afterward, bearing threats against others.



posted on Mar, 1 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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U.S. sees serious threat in Mexico drug violence
www.ouraynews.com...

Losing Mexico
Afghanistan, Somalia...Mexico?

Could Mexico turn into a failed state? It may be happening before our very eyes. The media, the President nor the Secretary of State are talking about it or focusing on it any serious way. But the threat of a major calamity on our border is real and exists.
Mexico's on going saga with the drug cartels has taken a violent turn last year as over 6,200 people died in drug related deaths. At the pace this year, that number will easy surpass 10,000. The Mexican police are unable to match the cartels in money or weaponry. And in all frankness, the Mexican police are themselves corrupt, and often incompetent. Mexico is increasing the army presence in border cities such a Juarez in a bid to tone down the violence. But the Mexican Army has a rough reputation, and is often accused of violence against the public as well, and is not the most trusted organization in the country.
www.associatedcontent.com...

Sorry for all the ranting above but I really feel that the situation with Mexico is really being downplayed to the public. This is all to real and escalating daily. Yeah it's a war between drug cartels but when you realize the coruption of there government being involved with the drug trade it becomes a war of political powers. As far as the war crossing over the border I don't think that will ever happen but the possibility of a mass immagration illegally or seeking asyllum at this rate is going to be enevitable. We're in a catch 22 situation. Do we reinforce our borders and just let our resources just wait for an undetermineal time or do we wait till the insurgence happens and deal with it then?
Any thoughts anyone?



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