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Recieved messages intended for mankind from aliens?

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posted on Feb, 20 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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Hi!
Let me first off say that i am a skeptical believer. I have an open enough mind to believe in life elswhere, but wont blindly believe in any encounter without actual proof.

I`ve seen things in the sky that i could`nt explain that could very well be alien piloted, but I have no proof entertaining that notion.
Based on memories and what appeared to be missing time, and an object in my arm that can be pulled with a magnet, there are those who swear to me that i`ve been abducted. But once again, no proof, and i aint cutting my arm to get that thing out only to find that it`s somthing terrestrial LOL


OK...This has to do with people who have recieved messages intended for mankind from aliens.

Please dont take this as personal attack, I just want to ask a few questions and make a couple of points that has my mind twisting in knots from a social point of view.

I`ve noticed that people who are supposedly given messages like these are not top scientists, heads of state or such that could have any impact on influencing mankind, let alone convincing their peers on an internet forum.
I know some have said "I dont care who believes me", but obliously the alien would care.
And the experience would`nt be shared by the contactee/channeler on a public forum if they did`nt want to be believed.

To those who claim to have recieved these messages,
What makes you special, that a supposed intellectually superior entity with a message intended for mankind, would give it to you and not someone who could no doubt get the message out easier and actually be believed by the masses.

I know that if I as an alien, wanted to get an urgent message out to the masses, I would send this message to somone with credibility, who could with no doubt spread this message and be taken seriously.

Or if the message was that life changing or life threatening, I`d takeover their communications tv, radio,internet etc and broadcast my message.

Or maybe project my message in the sky so all could see it.
If they are all that much more technically advanced than us, they should no doubt be able to do it.

If the message was intended for mankind, then why share it with 1 person or a select few who have no concequence in world affairs.

Also to those saying "The masses is`nt ready for it". Then what make you believe that you are?
If I was an alien, I`d wait for everyone to be ready for my message. No sense preaching to the choir right?
If they are so much smarter than us, then releasing the message to a common person would not be very smart at all.
If you place an ad, you`d want it to be seen by as many people as possible right?

These are just some questions that I feel would be cool if answered.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[edit on 20-2-2009 by johnjohn808]




posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 03:43 AM
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Perhaps only certain people are contacted due to the same reason they don't land on our front lawns. Which you've kinda pointed out yourself already. There may be certain laws that limit their movements (as do we).

Maybe they have to work around these limitations by contacting people via dreams or telepathy.

Maybe they don't specifically target people. Perhaps they just 'scan' the general population and wait for an 'opening' of sorts. The opening in this case would be the ability of the contactee to be contacted via these means.

I think in most cases the contactee has no idea that they are 'open' to communication, until it happens and they become aware of it. It's not a conscious decision.

A lot of uncertainty there, assuming the phenomenon is real.

As for the contactee being 'special'... They could just have a higher level of acceptance for the unknown? A personality trait? I don't think it's a case of being 'special', just a different perception of the world.

[edit on 21-2-2009 by Comatose]

[edit on 21-2-2009 by Comatose]



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 03:51 AM
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maybe the people who are credible that have been contacted are less likely to put themselves up for public ridicule and have their lively hoods affect by "coming out", think about it, what would the general populus think if the president said that he had been abducted and that the aliens had given him a message? cukoo



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by THELONIO
reply to post by johnjohn808
 


maybe the people who are credible that have been contacted are less likely to put themselves up for public ridicule and have their lively hoods affect by "coming out", think about it, what would the general populus think if the president said that he had been abducted and that the aliens had given him a message? cukoo



Never a true word spoken.


Trying not to do a one liner here but # happens and the point is made.

[edit on 21-2-2009 by Bob Down Under]



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 05:36 AM
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Thanks for your replies!
I can accept any of your ideas as to why.


But it still bugs me because.....
They can suposedly erase your memory of your abduction, plant things in your head etc. Why not just plant the message in someone who would matter in the grand scheme of things?

I know it`s a movie, but remember in Close Encounters (one of my favorites) when the contactees were "compelled" to make the trip to the landing site? No matter how much they fought it, they still made the trip.
Same thing here. Deliver the message to someone who would matter, and compell them to come out with it.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 06:24 AM
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At the age of 13 I discovered the validity of the adage, "Ask and ye shall receive." After I ditched religion, I pretty much looked to the sky and asked if there was anybody out there. About 20-30 minutes later my question was answered in a large way. Brilliant flying disk, interaction with a being, instant enlightenment via an advanced learning tool; basically divine intervention.

I can't speak for all circumstances, but generally help must be requested on some level before help can arrive. Research would indicate this to be the trend if all parties have YOUR best interests at heart. This might help to explain the reason certain types of people are not approached.

Let's face it, before you can seek something out you must first believe that it is a possibility. Otherwise you wouldn't be looking in the first place. I have friends who refuse to believe I have been visited even though I've never lied to them about anything in 30 years.

Also I think that you must be without fear, have pure intent, and be alert enough to sense that 'contact' is occurring. I'm willing to help any way I can. Don't be ashamed to let me know if you succeed now! That's another problem, many keep their encounters secret (shhhh).

[edit on 2/21/09 by HaveSeen4Myself]



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Hi

Would you mind describing your experience/s in further detail or would you be able to provide a link if you have already done so elsewhere?

Thanks.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Sure man. I've also posted suggestions to improve your chances, the result of comparing many personal accounts from various individuals. Keeping track of various reporting sites and traveling to areas of increased activity similar to 'storm chasers' is something I'd be interested in also.

This is a thread I started earlier today concerning my first encounter. Here is the link

A description of my second encounter can be found here (about half way down the page if you're not logged in).



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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I posted something that explained this, but no one even read it... Its called the cosmic coincidence theory.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also it could not even matter who they tell. As long as a few people are notified than the information will eventually integrate intself into human consciousness. Like the 100th monkey experiment. If they tried to contact someone "important" anyway they themselvs would be put in danger.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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First you would have to decide if they are real or not and take it from there.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 01:18 AM
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exactly, most people have these encounters while in some sort of altered state of consciousness. Whether it be from just waking or falling asleep, meditation, or even drugs.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 22-2-2009 by Wisen Heimer]



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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I am always amused by these statements like why not someone more "credible".

what makes someone more credible? Money? Power? Fame?

Tell me something are rich people known for their honesty?
How about people with lots of power? did they get it by being honest?

Are famous people more honest?

And yet any of these people would be more credible than that guy next door you have know all of your life and has respect for you and others because they are not pampered and spoiled?

Its so funny who we consider credible and why.

honestly.. think about it.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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Hi NephraTari
The point im trying to get across has really nothing to do with being rich although it may be a byproduct of their job.
Famous, maybe. Not in a Hollywood sense, but within their field. Such as:

A top respected physicist, head of NASA or a top scientist in a pertinent field.... maybe someone who has some weight in the scientific world.

Some scientists are paid good money. But thats because they labored in school, studied, to be the top in their field and deserve to make that type of money.
We trust them with our health/medicines, what we know of our weather, the universe, etc.

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A president or prime minister of a country, his/her scientific advisor, head of the united nations, secretary of state,...etc

I know politicians are`nt really trusted, but we the people do elect them to represent us, protect us and make our laws. So we must have a little bit of trust in them whether we like to admit it or not.

When NASA came out and said they discovered water on Mars, the masses believed them. Believers in extraterestrial life embraced them.
How do we know it`s true? We dont.
We trust them with their evidence. (sometimes when it`s convinient or fits some people`s beliefs or agenda)

Now if a year earlier, the guy next door who digs ditches (i was a ditch digger for almost 5 years) proclaimed that there was water on Mars, who`d believe him? He has no weight in the astronimical field.


If A president or prime minister came on TV and directly said "We are not alone in the universe, and have made contact with intelligent life on another planet". The masses would believe. It`s what we all wanted.
95% of this forum would jump up and say I TOLD YOU SO!

Does he have weight in the astronomical field? No...but his/her scientific advisor sure does! And im positive his declaration was prepared by the science advisor.

Now the guy next door says the same thing.
Nothing happens.
Because guys next door have been saying it for over a century and we`re no further than we were back then.

[edit on 28-2-2009 by johnjohn808]



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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Assuming ET's exist, we shouldn't assume they'd care about us.
All living things are designed to care and protect firstly of themselves and ones closest to them. It's self preservation, survival instinct, the laws of biology, whatever you want to call it.

Maybe they do care and help and we don't know about it?
Maybe they're intent on destroying us and we don't know?
It's also possible their very existance is being faked.

Most (but not all) who say they receive messages have a tendency to self appoint themselves as "special". They often use words like "Elders", "gods", "awakening", etc. They may purposely spread false information and be a complete fraud, or be in full belief they are a spokesperson. Their "specialness" can be driven by ego or a feeling of low self worth. There are also those who've quite simply been brainwashed. This brainwashing can be self induced from reading too much alien info, it could be some cult-like inducing, or from some hokey hypnosis session and even self hypnosis, in which the "message" is mis-interpreted, falsified or just plain mis-understood. Lastly, but less likely, the messenger may have a mental illness.

Personally, the last people I would trust are the rich or famous or anyone in authority. Most of these people only care about bettering themselves, even if they started out a good person, they soon learn the rules of the game. Not to say that all are this way ....



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 04:46 PM
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Primarily because the ones you would consider most reputable are working for our corrupt renegade/leaders. Also, there are reasons, some that are given, many that we don't know for who is chosen. But the good ets are really and truly into grass roots campaigns for the people as earth is in very bade shape with truly corrupt leaders trying to depopulate us and keep us slaves. Ets know what's going on.



posted on Feb, 28 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by mystiq
Primarily because the ones you would consider most reputable are working for our corrupt renegade/leaders. Also, there are reasons, some that are given, many that we don't know for who is chosen. But the good ets are really and truly into grass roots campaigns for the people as earth is in very bade shape with truly corrupt leaders trying to depopulate us and keep us slaves. Ets know what's going on.


Hi mystiq
Thanks for your reply and I thats another explination that i can ponder!
I like everyone`s opinion.
But i still have problems when using logic, and my past promotional/marketing experience.

hmmmm what good has a grass roots campaign actually done? The earth is still in bad shape (probably worse) a century later, and we are still no further than we were back then.

If real contact is actually being between aliens and the average man then they may not be that much more intelligent that we are.

When we are at a store and we are upset at the service or product we recieved, who do we ask to speak to? The cashier? The bagboy? no... we ask for the manager. Why? because we feel that we can make more progress speaking to someone higher up.
The cashier and bag boy are`nt even authorized and probably have no say or power to do anything about it anyway.

Remember the old si-fi movies?
The aliens say "Take me to your leader" not "Take me to the guy next door". It know it`s not a movie we`re talking about here, but it makes sense giving information to someone who can actually do somthing with it.

It does`nt matter in this case whether our leaders are corrupt or not, what it boils down to, is they are trusted believed by the masses and the guy next door is believed in a case like this, probably not even by his immediate family. It`s sad, but unfortunately true.

[edit on 28-2-2009 by johnjohn808]



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