I've got a really, really bad feeling.

Here's why.

-Economic Turmoil

-Tyrannical Government

-Oppressive Laws

-Way, Way too many taxes.

-Liberty Erosion

-Rapid Freedom Decay

-Decline into Socialism

-Brainwashed Populace

-Doom Imminent

reply to post by downtown436


Just about everyone feels it to some extent. I wasn't going to respond to this at first because there's already so many of these threads, but it seems as though we do have a brainwashed populace. I didn't really notice how out of control it's spun itself into until tonight. Apparently Obama wants us all to unite. I am currently living with my parents because I have surgery to undergo and they are both brainwashed Obamaites. One thing or another came up at the dinner table and I said "I want to make a lot of money" or something and my dad replied "Well if you make enough money your suppose to give it to other people". He never said anything like this before and I said "Why do I have to do that?" and he said "because the money you make belongs to other people. That's how it should be (easy for him to say, he's poor and in debt)." I said "Well given all the crap I've been through I'd like to be able to make a good amount of money and keep it for myself" at which point he called me a dirty Republican and a racist, as well as threatened to throw his sick son (me) out in the cold. Now grant it he has a drinking problem, but he was not drunk tonight, and the rest of my Obama family agrees with him. This is being united I suppose?


[edit on 20-2-2009 by NativeAmerican]

I'm more or less not so much worried over all of the Obamanites, but, I'm more worried about the sheep. The sheep scare me. They think that anything that criticizes their way of logic is just paranoia, and then, look at them. I'm so fed up with the government right now. I'm going to change my party affiliation to independent...

reply to post by NativeAmerican


See, I have had that same problem with my parents only they are total faux news neocons. Now that Obama got elected all my "crazy" conspiracy theories seem to make a whole lot more sense to them. LOL I'm not a "Far Left Fringe Lunatic" anymore, now I'm back to being a regular ol "Right Wing Extremist", mind you I haven't changed my political philosophy at all.

I don't really know what is coming. I keep having thoughts like, "maybe I should get about 300 gallons of bottled water". Or "I'm going to buy a generator and 5-6 5 gallon gas jugs, and fill them up with premium". Or my favorite "Lets go to Wal-mart and buy every round of ammo they have".

reply to post by Frankidealist35


Exactly, the sheep really don't know and don't want to know what is going on. Therefore they are lost to follow the "authorities". Which of course is always strait to the slaughter house.

reply to post by downtown436


I think the overturning of the government will come after another bad Obama decision and will begin in the South/mid-west. Another stimulus anyone?

reply to post by NativeAmerican


How do you see the "overturning" process taking place?

Have a bad feeling?

Watch these videos
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The possibilities of what could happen are shown here.

reply to post by downtown436


Just to play Devil's Advocate...

-Economic Turmoil

According to Greenspan and others, the recent economic downturn is a once-in-a-century event. The economy is dynamic and cyclical. Although asset bubbles are, by definition, unforecastable, it can be generally assumed that there will be periods of excessive or unjustified optimism and exuberance. Corrections will follow, and equilibrium will be reached.


-Tyrannical Government

I think this implies that they know the old ways have to end. For example, with the advent of the Web, information about all of the dirty tricks, illegal activities, and secret wars conducted by these institutions has begun to reach far and wide. Now take a look at websites like ATS. They are here, in part, to help seed patently absurd information into the mix to help diffuse or deflect well-deserved criticism of the institutions and their policies. Also, they are here to serve as a honeypot to catch would-be fanatics and zealots who would use violence to threaten the status quo. None of this would be necessary if it weren't for the background which is essentially good news - that sunlight is making its way into the system.


-Liberty Erosion

I think that the legal maneuvers to override civil liberties are also an expression of desperation, which highlights the essential positive turn in the background of our lives. What I mean to say is that anything that the DoJ has sanctioned (or the White House) over the past 8 years was already being done, but without legal basis. The very fact that the issue has moved into the courts demonstrates that the tight fist of government is squeezing all of the water out of its grasp.


-Decline into Socialism

Now, what do you mean by "decline"? Also, much of this issue is nothing but baked air. For example, did you know that your taxes are now and have always been paying for medical care for poor folks? It's true - only your dollars have been used in the least efficient way possible, and have been receiving the least possible return on their investment. A hybridized medical system that allowed poor folks to receive adequate preventative medicine will result in better outcomes, improved productivity, declining chronic, treatable illnesses, etc. It will also allow you to continue to seek out private specialists if you can afford it.

The other part of this issue is a matter of a debate over value. This is a long one, so I'm going to condense it into one sentence. If you think value = money, then you are operating on a false value system, and false values are what brought us to this low point, economically, in the first place.


-Brainwashed Populace

You know, we have always been brainwashed. That's the fact of it. My grandparents' generation were completely caught up in a grand story of America and the world at large that bore no real relationship to reality. Here's one tiny, picayune example: There was an old John Wayne movie in which the bad guys were communists here in America. In one scene, Wayne and his fellow agents bust in on a communist meeting and began throwing righteous punches right away with no obvious provocation. Now, Communism and its fans are protected under the law. You have the right today to embrace any political, social, religious, or economic theory you choose. On paper, you would have had the same right back then, too. Yet, somehow in practice it didn't work out that way. The discrepancy between reality and law was accepted then in a way that will no longer stand.


-Doom

You have me there.

[edit on 20-2-2009 by jorgeborge]

reply to post by David9176


I don't trust Glenn Beck. He is about 95% of the way there. It's that other 5% you gotta worry about. Like his Ron Paul demonization campaign where he said that Ron Paul supporters should be rounded up as terrorists. Oh yeah, now he is best friends with Ron Paul......... Also keep in mind that the same guy that signs Hannity's and O'douchbag's paychecks, sign Glenn Beck's paycheck as well.

Rick Santelli on the other hand is 100% genuine in my opinion. I'm planning on going to the Chicago Tea Party.

Originally posted by NativeAmerican
reply to post by downtown436

 

I think the overturning of the government will come after another bad Obama decision and will begin in the South/mid-west. Another stimulus anyone?

I got the word today that I no longer have a job, as of today.

I only need a torch and an axe. One to find the bastards and another to cleave their skulls.

There will be no end to this until every banker is hanging from a lamp post, and every congressman is trembling in fear.

So, who's up for the fight?

reply to post by mrwupy


I've been ready for a long time. Sorry to hear about your employment situation.

reply to post by jorgeborge


"-Doom

You have me there."


Yeah it's getting a little Doomy out there.

reply to post by mrwupy


"There will be no end to this until every banker is hanging from a lamp post, and every congressman is trembling in fear."

WARNING THE ABOVE QUOTE IS TOTALLY FILLED WITH TRUTH.

reply to post by mrwupy


Now the one question I have. Is what is the protocol the government takes when hearing of conspiratorial uprising?

reply to post by NativeAmerican


A white van with a satellite dish on top parks across the street.

I find it interesting how those who have a voice want to blame the interest rates and this or that for all the problems when in my opinion the crux of the crux of the situation is and has been for quite some time the farming out of jobs done by the American industry.

They talk about creating new jobs, to he!! with that, give us back the jobs you shipped away because of slave labor and tax incentives! For Pete's sake it is a no brainier

When you take the lifeblood from a nation and cripple it then talk about rebuilding with incentives, well the incentive is a days pay for a days work, plain and simple. We didn't mind being slave to the dollar when we could make a dollar, but what have you done to that????

I guess I will stop my rant. It just seems like the same ole' story, create a crisis, reaction, implement a socialistic solution.

Who wins and who loses?????

Same ole' story same ole' song and dance.............My friends........

be positive every day is new day.

reply to post by NativeAmerican


I think your father was trying to point out the irony that you don't want to help other people, but there you are, at their house, being helped to recovery from surgery.

reply to post by downtown436


Oh, I thought they operated in black these days