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The Actual Words of Osama

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posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:22 PM
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'September 11 and March 11 is Your Own Merchandise Coming Back to You'

"This is a message to our neighbors north of the Mediterranean, with a proposal for a peace treaty, in response to the positive reactions which emerged there.

"What happened in September 11 and March 11 is your own merchandise coming back to you. We hereby advise you ... that your definition of us and of our actions as terrorism is nothing but a definition of yourselves by yourselves, since our reaction is of the same kind as your act. Our actions are a reaction to yours, which are destruction and killing of our people as is happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine.

"It suffices to see the event that shocked the world - the killing of the wheelchair-bound old man Ahmad Yassin - Allah's mercy upon him - and we pledge to Allah to avenge [his murder] on America, Allah willing.

"By what measure of kindness are your killed considered innocents while ours are considered worthless? By what school [of thought] is your blood considered blood while our blood is water?

"Therefore, it is [only] just to respond in kind, and the one who started it is more to blame..."

We will Continue to Fight the U.S. and U.N.

"When you look at what happened and is happening, the killing in our countries and in yours, an important fact emerges, and that is that the oppression is forced on both us and you by your politicians who send your sons, against your will, to our country to kill and to be killed.

"Therefore, both sides have an interest in thwarting those who shed the blood of the peoples for their own narrow interests, out of vassalage to the White House gang...

"This war makes millions of dollars for big corporations, either weapons manufacturers or those working in the reconstruction [of Iraq], such as Halliburton and its sister companies...

"It is crystal clear who benefits from igniting the fire of this war and this bloodshed: They are the merchants of war, the bloodsuckers who run the policy of the world from behind the scenes.

"President Bush and his ilk, the media giants, and the U.N. ... all are a fatal danger to the world, and the Zionist lobby is their most dangerous member. Allah willing, we will persist in fighting them...

'I Hereby Offer [Europe] a Peace Treaty'

"Therefore, in order to thwart opportunities for the merchants of war, and in response to the positive developments that were expressed in recent events and in the public opinion polls, which determined that most European peoples want peace, I urge ... the establishment of a permanent commission to nurture awareness among Europeans regarding the justness of our causes, particularly the cause of Palestine, and that use be made of the vast media resources to this end.

"I hereby offer them a peace treaty, the essence of which is our commitment to halt actions against any country that commits itself to refraining from attacking Muslims or intervening in their affairs, including the American conspiracy against the larger Islamic world.

"This peace treaty can be renewed at the end of the term of a government and the rise of another, with the agreement of both sides.

"The peace treaty will be in force upon the exit of the last soldier of any given [European] country from our land.

"The door of peace will remain open for three months from the broadcast of this statement. Whoever rejects the peace and wants war should know that we are the men [of war], and whoever wants a peace treaty and signs it, we hereby allow this peace treaty with him.

"Stop shedding our blood in order to protect your own blood. The solution to this easy-difficult equation is in your own hands. You should know that the longer you delay, the worse the situation will become, and when that happens, do not blame us, blame yourselves...

"As for those who lie to people and say that we hate freedom and kill for the sake of killing - reality proves that we are the speakers of truth and they lie, because the killing of the Russians took place only after their invasion of Afghanistan and Chechnya; the killing of the Europeans took place only after the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan; the killing of the Americans in the Battle of New York took place only after their support for the Jews in Palestine and their invasion of the Arabian Peninsula; their killing in Somalia happened only after Operation Restore Hope. We restored [i.e. repelled] them without hope, by the grace of Allah."

memri.org...

I think he nailed Bush on this one. We need to leave Iraq. That was a colossul mistake by an inept president.

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Colonel]




posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:30 PM
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This is how you create terrorists. You invade thier homeland. Kill their leaders and religious figures, not to mention their families. Steal their resources. Destroy their infrastructure.

Then, everyone acts so shocked when the terrorist returns the favor.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
This is how you create terrorists. You invade thier homeland. Kill their leaders and religious figures, not to mention their families. Steal their resources. Destroy their infrastructure.

Then, everyone acts so shocked when the terrorist returns the favor.


Yeah, Colonal, you're right. We should just let them be and let them continue to hate America, to the point of wanting it destroyed. I'm sure they'd leave us alone, too. Just like Israel. If they leave Hamas alone, Hamas would abandon it's goal of pushing Israel into the sea. It's the victim's fault. Good mentality. Maybe we should free all the rapists out there, too...After all, it's the woman's fault for looking good. :shk:



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:34 PM
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Right, let's just let these wackos kill innocents while we sit back and eat popcorn
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[Edited on 4-15-2004 by JediMaster]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake
Yeah, Colonal, you're right. We should just let them be and let them continue to hate America, to the point of wanting it destroyed.


Maybe if we left them alone they wouldn't hate America. Maybe if we stop supporting these facist Israelies who murder Palestineans they wouldn't hate us. Thse people have legitimate grievences and NOT to address them is to avoid the issue and to allow the killings to continue.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:40 PM
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Colonel, Hamas blows up busses with children on them. Is'nt that murder? Oh I guesss thats ok there Jews after all :shk:.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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They hate America now. If we step back and say sorry, that hate will still exist. And I'll support anyone who is being attacked by a force whose only goal is to kill innocents to inspire terror. The Israelis deserve our support, Hamas does not. If we withdraw support for Israel, we will be sending a clear message that we support Hamas.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by JediMaster
Colonel, Hamas blows up busses with children on them. Is'nt that murder? Oh I guesss thats ok there Jews after all :shk:.


Don't forget, they aren't really Jews, the only true Jews out there are black americans whose ancestors were slaves.


dz

posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:46 PM
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JediMaster: You're right, we should take out anyone that kills innocent people. Everyone that kills innocent people should be jailed, and then executed. How about though, we agree not to count any of the innocent people in Iraq or Afghanistan that actually led lives before we got there and annihilated their country. We won't count those, ok?

Junglejake: So what you are saying is let's take out anyone that hates America? So, according to your beliefs, all countries should just take out their enemies. You're right, we should. We should destroy all who oppose us. We are rightful to do so. Everyone should be able to do so, as long as their enemy is not America.

You people are blind. I don't support the killing at the WTC. I don't support the killing in Afghanistan, or Iraq. Or in the middle east. Or anywhere in the world. But you lead this false belief that America is pure in it's pursuit.

Take the next sentence in, and take it good: WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING THE TERRORISTS DO

We are no different than them.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:49 PM
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You're right abou tthe Jew issue. They aren't the real Jews b/c they can't trace their lineage back to Abraham. In any event, about the Palestineans, if an opposing force came after and killed your family, friends, home, and way of life with Apache helicopters and tanks and bulldozers, what would you do? Beg them to stop...wait, that option has been tried. Doesn't work....

What would you do?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
We hereby advise you ... that your definition of us and of our actions as terrorism is nothing but a definition of yourselves by yourselves, since our reaction is of the same kind as your act. Our actions are a reaction to yours, which are destruction and killing of our people as is happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine. [Edited on 15-4-2004 by Colonel]


he also said "If inciting people to do that is terrorism, and if killing those who kill our sons is terrorism, then let history be witness that we are terrorists."

www.cnn.com...



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:50 PM
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There is a differnace those are casualites of war. They were innocents who got in the way, while their deaths are tragic especialy the children it happens in wars and we can't stop that.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:51 PM
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Colonel answer my question, is'nt Hams killing inncoent children on busses murder and ought to be condemend?


dz

posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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Oh I see. So it's justifiable than. Their deaths mean less than our deaths. Our deaths are more serious.

And who defines war? What is war to them, is not war to us? We require a congress the declare something a war before we can consider it that? So even though to them, they are at war with us, but we are not at war with them? Therefore when they kill us it's terrible because they're innocent, but when we kill them it's ok cause they're just in the way?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by dz
JediMaster: You're right, we should take out anyone that kills innocent people. Everyone that kills innocent people should be jailed, and then executed. How about though, we agree not to count any of the innocent people in Iraq or Afghanistan that actually led lives before we got there and annihilated their country. We won't count those, ok?

take out those who intentionally target civilians. We didn't, they do.

Junglejake: So what you are saying is let's take out anyone that hates America? So, according to your beliefs, all countries should just take out their enemies. You're right, we should. We should destroy all who oppose us. We are rightful to do so. Everyone should be able to do so, as long as their enemy is not America.

Not hates America. Attacks America. And yes, anyone who is attacked should have the right to defend themselves. These terrorists are targeting our civilians with the justification that they're tax payers. America is simply defending it's self from attack, but we need an active defense. If we sit here and try to prevent incoming attacks without going after the attacks, we will lose.

You people are blind. I don't support the killing at the WTC. I don't support the killing in Afghanistan, or Iraq. Or in the middle east. Or anywhere in the world. But you lead this false belief that America is pure in it's pursuit.

Take the next sentence in, and take it good: WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING THE TERRORISTS DO

We are no different than them.

We aren't sending our children with bombs strapped around their waists onto school busses to blow themselves up. We are very different then them in that we go after military and para military targets. I don't think it is we who are blind...



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by JediMaster
Colonel answer my question, is'nt Hams killing inncoent children on busses murder and ought to be condemend?


Just as Shock & Awe, depleted uranium, tanks, and apache helicopters kills Muslims children.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 03:05 PM
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Can you directly answer with a yes or no instead of spinng like the rest of your Democratic buddies?

Thse deatsh in Shock&Awe were not intentioal the Hamas wacko ment to kill them. But they happen to be Jews so thats ok, ohlet me reprhase, they are not the real Jews who happen to be black.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 03:06 PM
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Colonel, try to answer this with as much honesty as you can. Think about it, and answer the question.

Do you really believe we target civilians?

And

Do you really believe Hamas and other terrorist organizations don't?


dz

posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 03:06 PM
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take out those who intentionally target civilians. We didn't, they do.


oh we don't? blowing up radio stations; they're not civilians?



Not hates America. Attacks America. And yes, anyone who is attacked should have the right to defend themselves. These terrorists are targeting our civilians with the justification that they're tax payers. America is simply defending it's self from attack, but we need an active defense. If we sit here and try to prevent incoming attacks without going after the attacks, we will lose.


Ok, so what justifies an attack. If you support someone that attacks someone else, are you therefore attacking also? So if we supported someone that attacked them, are they not justified to fight back?



We aren't sending our children with bombs strapped around their waists onto school busses to blow themselves up. We are very different then them in that we go after military and para military targets. I don't think it is we who are blind...

Oh yes, I forgot. We're sending our children with much more advanced technology.

I'm sorry, but killing is killing. Just because we have the money for the big nice tanks does not make us any better than them. If they had the money to not have to do suicide bombings, I'm sure they wouldn't. It's much nicer to have that extra soldier by your side than have to lose him.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 03:08 PM
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Just as Shock & Awe, depleted uranium, tanks, and apache helicopters kills Muslims children.

Where is the proof that American equipment is killing all of those people over there???

It doesn't exist.

If it did it would be plastered all over our news media. It would not be hard to conduct an autopsy and recover enough fragments to determine what type of weapons were used.

Is this being done, no. To do so would reveal proof that it is not the Americans killing the innocent people over there.



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