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Origin of terrorism found!!!

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posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 01:40 PM
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Through extensive research and deductive reasoning that can only be compared with Sherlock Homes himself I have found it. I have found the origins and source of terrorism. With this information maybe we can unite against the source of the problem and eliminate terrorism from the planet. It all started with a middle eastern man named Jesus. Here's a picture of the things we must defeat to get rid of terrorism as a whole.






posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 01:52 PM
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I didn't know Jesus was a caveman.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:00 PM
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I see I got a bad vote. Can someone disagree that religion is not at the heart of terrorism in the middle east?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:00 PM
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this is just wrong on so many levels.

I've heard him called many things, but never a terrorist.

Why do you say this ?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:06 PM
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What???? Are the terrorists over there not Muslim so therefore Muhhamed be the orginal terrorist not Jesus?

This topic is crap on so many levels.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:09 PM
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You are a fool.
I suppose Ghandi was a terrorist too?
What about Budha?
What kinda smoke is in that 'bubble' you live in where anything is possible?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by JediMaster
What???? Are the terrorists over there not Muslim so therefore Muhhamed be the orginal terrorist not Jesus?

This topic is crap on so many levels.


Look who's talking.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:12 PM
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Wow your back Ill67, my old sparring buddy
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Now what I ment was that they are not Christians, they are Muslim. Muhhamed was their spritual leader. So there for he would be a terrorist according to his logic.

JOHNsmith what did Jesus do to be considerd in your mind a terrorist? He did peaceful acts like all other early religious leaders, minus those wacky voodoo folk.

Don't forget Shiva could be a terrorist, many hands for many bombs.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:20 PM
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Consider: He went from being a mere carpenter to declaring himself The Messiah, for Christs sake. Thats the kind of unbridled charismatic chutzpah Liam Gallagher can only aspire to.
Jesus broke from most of the religious traditions of his day, with revolutionary interpretations of Scripture, liberal consumption of wine, questionable choices of companionship, and radical notions of what God is all about. Jesus hung out with (and performed for) people of somewhat dubious repute: whores, lepers (though the correct biblical translation of this word actually covers a rash of skin disorders far less serious than actual leprosy), rich folks, tax collectors , and assorted other misfits deemed unholy by the religious establishment of his day.
How many wars have been fought in the name of Christianity? How many people have dies because of religion as a whole? Jesus doesn't seem all that different than OBL with the exception that when Jesus had the chance to run he didn't, he stick around so he could be a martyr. Just because society has changed their interruption of who Jesus was that doesn't change the things that he stood for. Thumbing his nose at authority, causing unrest in society, starting a revolution in his name against people whom didn't believe in his "god."

Sounds like terrorism to me.

www.creemmagazine.com...

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by J0HNSmith]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by J0HNSmith
Consider: He went from being a mere carpenter to declaring himself The Messiah, for Christs sake. Thats the kind of unbridled charismatic chutzpah Liam Gallagher can only aspire to.
Jesus broke from most of the religious traditions of his day, with revolutionary interpretations of Scripture, liberal consumption of wine, questionable choices of companionship, and radical notions of what God is all about. Jesus hung out with (and performed for) people of somewhat dubious repute: whores, lepers (though the correct biblical translation of this word actually covers a rash of skin disorders far less serious than actual leprosy), rich folks, tax collectors , and assorted other misfits deemed unholy by the religious establishment of his day.
How many wars have been fought in the name of Christianity? How many people have dies because of religion as a whole? Jesus doesn't seem all that different than OBL with the exception that when Jesus had the chance to run he didn't, he stick around so he could be a martyr. Just because society has changed their interruption of who Jesus was that doesn't change the things that he stood for. Thumbing his nose at authority, causing unrest in society, starting a revolution in his name against people whom didn't believe in his "god."

Sounds like terrorism to me.


I could be mistaken here, but I don't think that Jesus declared himself The Messiah ???

Someone help out here ...

May I ask JOHNS - do you believe in God / Jesus ? Do you pray to them ?

I probably should know the answer already,, but asking anyway.

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by elevatedone]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:26 PM
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Samson was the first recorded suicide attacker.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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JOHNSmith due to your very odd reply, is this suppsoed to be a ill attempt at humor?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:32 PM
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The story of the Mighty Samson:

"Self sacrifice" and giving your life away intentionally and taking as many enemy lives with you as possible for the sake of GOD Almighty and your people exists in the Bible. Let us look at the story of the Mighty Samson in the Bible:

"Samson said to the servant who held his hand, "Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them." Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and women watching Samson perform. Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD , remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes." Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived. (From the NIV Bible, Judges 16:26-30)"

Note: I called him "Mighty Samson" because he was extremely powerful. He was far much more stronger than all men in his As we clearly see from the Bible, Samson gave his life for his people by killing as much from the enemy as possible.

Samson prayed to GOD to give him back his power (Samson lost his power after the seven braids of his hair were shaven by Delilah and her people while he was sleeping, Judges 16:1-20), and GOD Almighty granted him that revoked power back. Samson then was able to bring the temple down upon him and his enemies.

Taken from www.answering-christianity.com...



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:35 PM
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I think what JS is alluding to is not that Jesus was the terrorist, but that the origins and reasons for terrorism can be found in religion. Am I right?

I don't think it's true. I think terrorism comes from a feeling of powerlessness to have an effect on one's own life. Or in the case of terrorist groups, the lives of the whole.

Who commits terrorist acts? People who feel that they are repressed or encroached upon by a force that they cannot contend with by conventional means. Terrorism is always a last-ditch effort.

DC



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
I think what JS is alluding to is not that Jesus was the terrorist, but that the origins and reasons for terrorism can be found in religion. Am I right?

I don't think it's true. I think terrorism comes from a feeling of powerlessness to have an effect on one's own life. Or in the case of terrorist groups, the lives of the whole.

Who commits terrorist acts? People who feel that they are repressed or encroached upon by a force that they cannot contend with by conventional means. Terrorism is always a last-ditch effort.

DC


I disagree, it's all right in his initial post :

"It all started with a middle eastern man named Jesus"



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
I think terrorism comes from a feeling of powerlessness to have an effect on one's own life. Or in the case of terrorist groups, the lives of the whole.

Who commits terrorist acts? People who feel that they are repressed or encroached upon by a force that they cannot contend with by conventional means. Terrorism is always a last-ditch effort.

DC


Sounds like Jesus to me.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:43 PM
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Did Jesus encoruage people to blow them selves up. NO. Did he encourage acts of violence. NO.

He thought out side the box, and formed a religion. Does having unorthodox belifes make one a terrorist?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by J0HNSmith
Sounds like Jesus to me.


I'll admit that I goof on religion any chance I get in any possible way, but this one doesn't make the slightest sense to me.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone
I disagree, it's all right in his initial post :

"It all started with a middle eastern man named Jesus"
Yeah, maybe you're right, elevatedone. If this is the case, then JOHNSmith needs to lay off the pipe. Or something...

I can't think of a time when Jesus resorted to terrorism to meet his ends. I know that he did dabble in violence a bit, in the case of the money-changers in the temple, but not terrorism..

Yeah, he really handed it to 'em, didn't he. He said, " 'Bout tree-fitty? Get outta hea ya damn monster!" Oh, no that was Chef's dad. My bad...

(*DeltaChaos thinks to self, "Damn, maybe I oughtta lay of the pipe!..."*)

DC

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by DeltaChaos]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by JediMaster
Did Jesus encoruage people to blow them selves up. NO. Did he encourage acts of violence. NO.

He thought out side the box, and formed a religion. Does having unorthodox belifes make one a terrorist?


Well, to your second point, it makes him a cult leader, a brain washing cult. If you want to know how I came to that conclution let me know.

To your first point Jesus is supposedly the "son of god" that also means he is the "son of the biggest mass murder in history." Saying Jesus has good intentions, well the read to hell is supposedly paved with those aren't they. More people have died in the name of "god" (rather the hand of god) "Mohammed" and "jesus" than from any other social or political cause combined.




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