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Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by nemazasho
Its not so much energy they want in some cases its the human as a whole subject, spirit, everything as Alien races cannot take spirits but they can corrupt them through deception and lies.
Earlier in this thread it was mention that Reptilians consider people as a delicacy to eat as a whole so that makes all of us cattle hear on Terra, put in another way we are a food-source to the Reptilians
The Grays capture people and do things from drug them, to using vitamins from their organs in a form of a black thick crude-like oil substance and operate on them. For the unlucky ones they are passes on to the Reptilians to eat, some are reported missing on the news and through other media.
Have a look at the amount of people in the statistics that dissapear every year and the results are alarming.
Originally posted by nemazasho
I'm sorry but I just get offended when people belittle psychedelics and label them artificial or fantasy or irrelevant. I have been studying them for a decade and simply cannot accept that view of them - it's completely and utterly false. Our brains are hardwired to have those experiences.
There is a very powerful hallucinogen known to science (one that has been clinically studied), which regularly creates experiences of profound ontological insight & alien contact - it is also ENDOGENOUS to the human body and brain. Our bodies produce it, and it is found in thousands of plants, trees, animals in nature. Those who have studied it say it's in more places than it isn't. Not a fact easily ignored.
[edit on 22-2-2009 by nemazasho]
Originally posted by Rigel Kent
If the reptilians get you intensely frightened before they put the bib on and tuck in, I reckon they are doing it to enhance the dining experience. it is no different from a human putting a cobra in a cage next to a mongoose to get it all riled up before they slit it open, cut out its beating heart and drink its blood + bile.
I have seen the latter performed in Asia tho thankfully, not the first.
food for thought,
RK
Originally posted by Mr Green
I don't think only 2% of the population are capable of reaching these experiences without drugs, I think 100% of the population can. We all have chakras therefor we all can reach these experiences, its just some don't seem to want to put the ground work in, they want the easy route, the fast track way. Fast track is fine if your up to the challenge and are prepared for the risks, but I'm just not.
The natural route may be longer but Im sure its a safer way in the end. Ive had some very strange things happen to me, but at least at the end of the day I know what I'm seeing is real and that gives me courage to cope with it and deal with it. The alternative of not even knowing what I'm seeing is real for me would lead to a state of paranoia.
Originally posted by Mr Green
I do believe certain gateways can be open with the hallucinogen you speak of above as it is found naturally in the brain. However when its released through meditation or other ways is it not released in a natural state in the exact dose required for that individual to cope with. My concern with taking more of this substance is will the individual be able to cope with the "trip" as its not an natural response. When we learn to meditate over many months we build up a natural response to this chemical and slowly learn how to deal with the awakenings it brings. Is it not dangerous to suddenly burst open all our psychic connections in one big go, is it not known that this can literally blow a persons mind.
Call me old fashioned but I still think these things should be done naturally. Im not saying its wrong for others to speed up the process by taking substances Im just not sure most are ready for the results. You sound you have mastered it well, but what about those that suddenly find they have an out of control kundalini they have awoken and it literally sends them mad and burns them up?
I dont think only 2% of the population are capable of reaching these experiences without drugs, I think 100% of the population can. We all have chakras therefor we all can reach these experiences, its just some dont seem to want to put the ground work in, they want the easy route, the fast track way. Fast track is fine if your up to the challenge and are prepared for the risks, but Im just not.
The natural route may be longer but Im sure its a safer way in the end. Ive had some very strange things happen to me, but at least at the end of the day I know what Im seeing is real and that gives me courage to cope with it and deal with it. The alternative of not even knowing what Im seeing is real for me would lead to a state of paranoia.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Tripping on or even sampling hallucinogenics (or any drugs) to increase psychic awareness is a very bad idea.
It is much wiser to increase psychic receptivity naturally than to force it through drugs which results in less emotional stability while also weakening the body, the aura, and the chakras.
To force through drugs the rising of the Kundalini (opening of the chakras) can have a devastating effect on one's psychological well-being
If you really want to increase your psychic receptivity, start doing chakra exercises; the best, hardest, and most advanced of which is called God Yoga aka Heart Chakra Radiance. I can't put a link to that in here but if you ask Green she can provide it for you in a private e-mail.
Originally posted by nemazasho
I think this all stemmed from a misunderstanding...I don't know where the chakra's thing came up into this side-talk on hallucinogens. I don't believe I stated they should or can be used as such. (to open chakras)
I believe it was said that they are an avenue to experiencing contact with beings, alternative dimensions of reality, profound psychological and spiritual knowledge, etc. Yes they are potentially dangerous...if you fear death by astonishment
Originally posted by nemazasho
They are a completely valid route for trying to attain a valid/genuinely transformative 'enlightenment' experience, although this result is extremely rare and people's habits are so deeply engrained sometimes that even such a profound experience does little to change who they are for more than a brief moment.
They are what they are. They have always been with us. Not as easier route, just a different one. To each their own.
Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by nemazasho
I believe it was said that they are an avenue to experiencing contact with beings, alternative dimensions of reality, profound psychological and spiritual knowledge, etc. Yes they are potentially dangerous...if you fear death by astonishment
Drugs are NOT an avenue to experiencing anything to do with spiritual or Alien contact whatsoever, thats the drugs talking which is why they are called mind altering.
I and others could not make it more clearer that taking mind altering substances will result in not only damage but fake/artificial/manufactured experiences and are not genuine in the slightest.
Please stop attempting to veer this thread off topic with a distorted view and argument for the use of damaging drugs to 'spiritually connect'...... absolute garbage
[edit on 22-2-2009 by Drakiir]
Originally posted by Drakiir
Please stop attempting to veer this thread off topic with a distorted view and argument for the use of damaging drugs to 'spiritually connect'...... absolute garbage
[edit on 22-2-2009 by Drakiir]
Originally posted by nemazasho
Shamans use these substances to "spiritually connect" all the time.
They are able to acquire knowledge on healing, animals, plants, nature, that they would otherwise not be able to acquire naturally. They are unanimous in the belief that certain compounds are indespensible to their work.
Originally posted by darcon
Alcohol.
We have talked about drugs a bit, but alcohol we have not discussed.