White people avoid race topics

I have a problem because blacks make it seem likes its a big effin deal that they were slaves. Look at the slavery in Europe for thousands of years before black slavery in america even began. You don't see those white people whose ancestors were enslaved in Europe still make a big deal out of it. Black people keep racism alive that's just what it is. If they keep it alive they can always blame the white man for something. I have witnessed many blacks being racist towards me but I tend to not care. Another thing is when they talk about the white people holding them down etc. it's really their own ignorance which is holding them down. Look at the ghettos of Harlem or South Central...they slaugther eachother because they are from different "hoods." To me it's all ridiculous and I am not talking about all blacks of course because I know many are also nice people.

im white live in england & im aware of the race problem, yes its a problem i think it always will be, heres a few things that may cuase an arguement:
white man sais: hey negro shortaned, its a racsist remark, where as a black person sais hey negger cuase ats is racsist & doesnt allow the real pronouciation of negga to another black person, it becomes acceptible in some kind of brotherly way !!!!.
if a white person sais anything about islam, many muslims will cry racsist, wich of course is totally untrue as islam is not a race.
what also adds to the race problem in the uk is getto`s, the lack of or total refusal to intergrate, this alone cuases tension that are often played out useing the race card, personally im bored sh-tless of the race arguement being used against me, becuase some one has a problem & is not inteligent enouph to work things out, & besides its easy to just blame !!!,
these days i cant be effin bothered to speak about
1:bollotics
2:religion
3:races
unless i`m looking for an arguement
i never used to vote, but becuase my society has gone down the tubes in a big way over the last 10/15 years to the point, where some parts of london resemble another country & certain getto`s call for the destruction of engand (you know who you are)
& so through race being used as a weapon on the streets, well i now use a counter weapon called voting
& with the direction of england ide say the time will come when things get uggly in the name of survival.
ps*if a black guy stabs & kills another black guy, in the news its refered to as (blue on blue) dont wanna be racsists now eh ?
the politacal correct get a life morons will wanna ban brown & white bread next cuase it may offend some one


i tried to write the word (niger or 'n-word') & ats changes it to (the n word)
this is of course totally racsist of ats as they refuse to change the word white to the (w word) for the poor white person who in racsist ways is some tmes refered to as (whity) a racsist use of the whord white !!!, ats iether allow 'n-word', niger to be used or replace white with the (w word) or is ats a racsist site ?
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I think that what follows should deserve its own thread.
But it remains in the topic of this thread. So...

I found in The Times this article :

Why the human race is growing apart

Races have evolved away from each other over the past 10,000 years, according to new research that challenges standard ideas about the biological significance of ethnicity. A genetic analysis of human evolution has shown that rather than slowing to a standstill it has speeded up, with different pressures on different populations pushing racial groups further apart. Scientists behind the findings suggest that European, African and Asian populations grew genetically more distinct from each other over several thousand years, as their environments took them down different evolutionary paths. This would call into question the popular scientific view that race has little or no biological meaning, as the genetic similarities between ethnic groups greatly outweigh differences. While this remains true – all humans share more than 99 per cent of their DNA – the new work indicates that variations tend to differ between races, and that these became more, not less, pronounced. “Human races are evolving away from each other,” said Henry Harpending, Professor of Anthropology at the University of Utah, who led the study.

Not only we are DIFFERENT : we are MORE AND MORE DIFFERENT !

This is not in the PC trend.
But it is.

Yes, typically caucasions to avoid the topic of "race" because it's a no win situation for us.

For example, there is a cable channel for every ethnic background.
BET
Asian TV
Latin America
etc...
but if someone launched The Cuacasion Network, there would be public outrage.

Caucasions have a hard time even bringing up the illegal alien situation without being called racist. As example, here's another thread where the OP does just that.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and here's an example of what he posted

Whether you want to remember or not, whether you think it's currently important or not all white caucasians in North America are the sons and daughters of not only illegal immigrants but crusaders that came here with Genocide as their passports.

Yep, we just can't win.

Originally posted by jfj123
Caucasions have a hard time even bringing up the illegal alien situation without being called racist. As example, here's another thread where the OP does just that.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and here's an example of what he posted

Whether you want to remember or not, whether you think it's currently important or not all white caucasians in North America are the sons and daughters of not only illegal immigrants but crusaders that came here with Genocide as their passports.

Yep, we just can't win.

the funny thing about this racsism card being played all the time, is that racsism is just one of only 64 psychological games humans play, & although i agree there is no way to win a game of rejection, the plus side in my opinion is that all the racsists playing the racsist card against white poeple are infact setting them selves up to lose the game, as long as white people dont react. the game of rejection being played by useing the racsist card is follwed by the game "poor me", wich is then followed by the rescuer, ( can i help) & the games will no doubt continue.

It seems to me these days, and for awhile now, race relations have been improving in the U.S. steadily. I keep hearing all those reports, and it seems to me that liberal academia is the group promoting racism. I took a college course last year on race relations, and found myself reading some of the most racist opinions I had ever heard expressed, aimed primarily at white people. Something to consider is that as race relations continue to improve, these academics are going to find themselves without a career path to follow, especially one that allows them to brow beat everyone around them, black, white, or any other color.

It follows along with the statements by someone like Mr Mxyztplk who spreads his racist revisions of history to slander whites. God forbid racists like these two should ever admit whites have ever done anything good in this world. These intellectual racists are the biggest problem. We have groups of people who specifically study how to justify discrimination against whites. It is getting to be time for us to rip these academic racists out of the system, and put them in the same arena as the KKK, NAZI's, Black Panthers and numerous other similar organizations, where they belong.

This whole thread is just Silly.


When I walk down the street everyone,



oh, I mean everyone is so jealous



of my skin.


I am so beautiful, so gleaming,



so silky smoothiness.



You all want to be me,

come on,


just admit it already.


They take one look at my skin color


and almost faint, oh wait, I guess


they are down at my feet


because I just look like a King!



I am PURPLE! sooooo lovely.......


Sorry I stretched it out. No think of it with King Julien from Madagascar the movie. Sorry the grandkids were watching it and it popped into my head because of the attitude some people think white people have......

reply to post by orkson

Dumbest thing I've ever heard. Throw me a race question I'll talk. This is why America is divided because apparently none of us is intelligent enough in the governments eyes to articulate knowledgeably on this subject. I'm so damn sick of useless reparations to African-American community. Why don't we give money to true Native-Americans. Oh that's right we gave them reservations and casinos. How friggin sad it is. I used to be proud to be an American. now I just sit back and laugh when I hear that. Just to be fair I fully support our military men and women as well as Israeli military. Have family members and friends in differrent armed forces.

This precisley what I predicted would happen when Obama was put in as a puppet

This really unnesscary distraction again people.If it isn't relgion, candy its racism.


We are evolved human beings, improving where we can, racism will never be fully solved. So will people STOP f^^^ complaining oh poor me. If your the victim your also a creator of the racism whether you like to think not is not any relevance.

I just cannot tolerate this, but I'm black I'm yellow, it's not fair and I need more this I need more acceptance. It's ok, but people still don't like me bla bla bla.

ACCEPT yourself first, deal with the problem by changing the situation, removing yourself from the situation, and coming to ways of solving it letting go and put it past you. Rather than listening to Sherri shepard bitcing about racism all day on the view everyday. It's not helping. To be quite frank it's perfectely resonable for any white person to go oh god not this again or feel a little bit uncomfortable. Its self centered talking... UGH. It really really riles me I tell you.

Seriously this thread has run its sell by date. I'm tired of people nit picking over skin colour. It's 2009 already. Enough already.


Stop BEING A VICTIM.

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This whole thread is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. There are much bigger fish to fry, larger problems looming on the horizon, and yet we are still discussing a "problem" that has presented itself countless times throughout the history of mankind. Get over yourself, get over whatever color your skin happens to be, we need to be TOGETHER right now.

Originally posted by poet1b
It seems to me these days, and for awhile now, race relations have been improving in the U.S. steadily. I keep hearing all those reports, and it seems to me that liberal academia is the group promoting racism. I took a college course last year on race relations, and found myself reading some of the most racist opinions I had ever heard expressed, aimed primarily at white people. Something to consider is that as race relations continue to improve, these academics are going to find themselves without a career path to follow, especially one that allows them to brow beat everyone around them, black, white, or any other color.

It follows along with the statements by someone like Mr Mxyztplk who spreads his racist revisions of history to slander whites. God forbid racists like these two should ever admit whites have ever done anything good in this world. These intellectual racists are the biggest problem. We have groups of people who specifically study how to justify discrimination against whites. It is getting to be time for us to rip these academic racists out of the system, and put them in the same arena as the KKK, NAZI's, Black Panthers and numerous other similar organizations, where they belong.

Exactly.

Much like the paradox of the white professor who rails against the white man, saying all white men should be ignored and distrusted.

Except for he the speaker, of course.

Academia is the leading cultural warrior in the anti-white hysteria that is gripping most developed countries. And until we discourage teachers with agendas, or better yet have them seek psychological help for their deep seated cultural guilt complex, this environmentally instilled collectivism will continue.

reply to post by poet1b


Yeah they are improving if you mean minorities aren’t treaty badly. And if you are a minority they really are improving, because you get to say what you want to say act how you want to act against Caucasians. So yeah I see where you could say race relations are improving. People get over. there is a man of African decent in the white house. That in itself means one of two things. Either the nation was scared to be considered racist for no voting for Obama, or We whiteys have let racism go. You take your pick.

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You think that a white man will not succumb to greed and lust like the black man did previously ? Its a human thing...

/thread

The race issue is only a propaganda tool used to create divisions in the population. It is done to try to hide the real divisions in this country which is social class.

Let's stop and really think about it for a second. An individual has far more in common with another person of the same social class than they do with someone else in their race. Although there are many of whom you share commonalities within your race, you ALWAYS share commonalities with someone in the same social class.

The wealthy whites, blacks, jews...insert race, feed the propaganda machine and the common fool eats it right up, and respond exactly as they were programmed.

If I avoided race topics, I don't think I would be replying to this thread at all so that point is moot. I'll discuss any subject with anyone that is willing to discuss it and to the best of my ability. My girlfriend is an ethnic minority and we hardly avoid any such issues (worse than that we throw epithets around like water baloons just for fun).

In general company I won't simply discuss anything like I would with those closer. I guess that's normal.

The problem is, when you're with someone who is a minority and gets treated like one, it changes the way you view race topics and you're far more sensitive to the problems. You realize it isn't all "just bitching to get a free lunch" or whatever. Treatment of an individual based upon their appearance (being "different") can be downright deplorable. I can say I've not really received the same in reverse.

Sometimes trying to discuss such topic with a "white person", even on account of their own attitudes, can elicit anger. So, in reality I'm probably more reticent to talk about it with whites than non whites since many haven't a stinking clue on the issue.

1st off, after reading the replies in this thread being a black man, i must respond by saying that most white people just don't get it. You guys just don't comprehend the lingering after-effects of the TRUE EVILS perpetuated by the trans-atlantic slave trade.

There is no comparison to the TRUE HOLOCAUST of the sons and daughters of Africa. The arrogance of most caucasoids in America sickens me to my stomach.

1st off, for all those who said Africans are to blame for the slave trade neglect to mention the fact of white manipulation through the use of alcohol and firearms. Which in turn poisons the African mind from figuring out the true exploitative nature of the "exchanges" being made. Who's behind the curtain? The white man and the arab man seeking profit.

Now, let's discuss the total DE-humanization of a whole race of people to justify the evils that took place. Let's begin by stealing and tampering with African history so those future generations that we force to come to this "New World" will never know who they were/are and the achievements accomplished by Ancient Kemet (Egypt for those who don't know it's TRUE name) & Ancient Nubia that birthed civilization to the world so that they will no longer have that historical connection embedded in them.

Then let's associate everything having to do with "black" to be negative and everything "white" to be "pure" to enforce the current system of world-wide white supremacy a la Willie Lynch's manual. This system affects the SUB-concious for those who don't know and directly affects the subconcious of the STOLEN African and other people of color world-wide. Who's behind the curtain? The white man in the form of the slave master, slave trader, overseer, slave catcher, etc.

After that's in place let's split up the stolen Africans from their families, rape and defile their women, force the men, women and children to labor for FREE for over 500 years. I repeat, FORCE them to work for over 500 years for FREE! Which breeds self-hatred. This was largely due to the fact that we as a people weren't even considered HUMAN in the first place. 3/5ths of a man is what they called us and most of you caucasoids still believe that to this day a la Eugenics. Lincoln himself said if he could maintain the union without "freeing" the slaves he would. Further proving my point about "white-privilege" aka "manifest destiny" aka "my God-given right to take and do what I please as a white man."

The founding-fathers were slave owners and sold their own illegitimate children into slavery. We weren't allowed to read and would be killed for doing so. We weren't even allowed to look caucasoids in the face directly. Lynchings involving castration, mutilation, being burned alive were spectacles and "party-time" for caucasoids who had nothing better to do but terrorize. Resistance meant death and the bettering of one's black self was not permitted. Everytime we try to get a foothold in so-called "American" society, a la BLACK WALL STREET, MARCUS GARVEY, MLK, MALCOLM X, THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY, etc. we get attacked and exterminated because America believes that blacks shouldn't better themselves, it's "bad for business." Who's behind the curtain? The white man. Plantations turned into factories and corporations to turn slave labor industrial rather than agricultural.

Stolen Africans built this entire country for NOTHING, fought and DIED for this country just to be constantly slapped in the face with arrogance. The Gov't has been against us from it's inception. Law enforcement has been the military arm of the white-supremacy system and has no respect for black people and never will.

To all those who say, "Black people are lazy, black people kill each other, only black people do crime," etc. etc. ask yourself these questions as to why this is so prevelant and rampant. Oh yeah, i forgot, it's black people's fault (insert sarcasm here).

Who decided after so-called reconstruction to dishonor the 40 acres and a mule so black people can have land and begin to do for self? The white man in the form of the US Gov't. who said blacks aren't allowed to live normal lives. They are only fit for ghettos and low-income housing,

Who initiated terror and hate and made it CRIMINAL to even be in the presence of good old pure white people? The white man in the form of Jim Crow.

Who purposely sabotaged living conditions, employment opportunities, education, civil liberties, peace of mind, etc.? The white man.

Who pumps the inner-city full of drugs to poison the youth and destroy communities and further perpetuate stereotypes, crime, and wanton violence a la the corporate media machine. You guessed it, the white man in the form of the US Gov't, CIA, FBI, DEA and the rest of the alphabet terrorists.

No other race has ever been forced to deny their own history, work and build a country for FREE, take on the last names of oppressers to forever remind them that they are owned AND on top of that be denied the basic human rights to live life. No other race can fathom the cruelty of the Black Holocaust. If you rob a whole people of all of this what do you guys expect? I mean really. A NATION OF COWARDS is absolutely correct.

Caucasoids use people and drop them after like cheap hookers. Then, deny they've done anything wrong. that's the "American Way" i guess.

There is no "getting over" slavery when this very system thrives and benefits off of slave labor and has programmed stolen africans to hate themselves and remain enslaved mentally so they can't grow. There is no "moving on" when the root of the problem has yet to even be addressed on a serious level. I suggest the arrogance level of the general caucasoid be turned down several notches. Remember, racism was invented by white people for white people. Don't believe me?

Who slaughtered, raped, pillaged, enslaved, and mentally scarred the sons and daughters of Africa and oh yeah taught a race to hate themselves? The white man.

Who slaughtered, raped, pillaged, enslaved, and ruthlessly killed off the majority of the Native Americans and oh yeah stole their whole land? The white man.

Who slaughtered, raped, pillaged, and forced the Asian people to build the railroads and oh yeah drop an atomic bomb on a whole country of Asian people known as Japanese? You guessed it, the white man.

But oh yeah, i forgot, Obama's in office, the Native Americans have casinos, and we buy everything from China and Japan so there is no more racism......(insert sarcasm here). A NATION OF COWARDS INDEED. America's history is written in blood and the hands happen to be white. When caucasoids (so-called jews and arabs as well) are ready to acknowledge their role and truly accept the responsibility for their actions then and only then can race be discussed in a civilized manner. And just because you caucasoids may not have done these atrocities yourselves, i'm sure your ancestors had a large part to play in you being able to do whatever you please simply for lacking melanin.

White people should stop the lying and tell the truth and the majority of the world's problems would cease to exist. humanity itself was born in Africa. The first person to ever walk this planet as a human being was black. The ancient people of Kemet aka Egypt were black. Black Africans invented science, medicine, architecture, astronomy, script writing, law, government, religion, the list goes on. Stop believing what the jew-owned media wants you to believe black people are. Do some actual research and celebrate REAL black history and maybe, just maybe, you can understand a fraction of what my people have been through and maybe you can finally respect our contributions to society and not what's it's been perverted into. Hotep.

Originally posted by rufusdrak
Same goes for a racist black guy or racist spanish guy being in front of a lot of white people, obviously they're not going to mouth off their opinions. That's not racial, it's just human nature to have FEAR of being beat down by the people you have negative opinions of.

Thats the main problem in my opinion, fear, its the fact that by having ANY negative opinion even if its genuinely justified your immediately branded racist, even if your not a racist person... unfortunately if you say that you get the old 'But how can you say 'racist' things if your not racist"... to me its the context of what your saying, along with the intent behind it.

Having a negative opinion about a race does not immediately make you racist, but unfortunately in todays world it does in some peoples eyes. I have no problem with race (hell as a white kid i got more stick from my own damn race for things even more trivial than race, like clothing and appearance and as such spent most of my time with asian friends), but i do notice trends in certain cultures, that tend to run along racial lines... we all have em its called being human, where all stereotypes.

And i do pass comments about races within my own home to my family... the thing is while i do so, those opinions do NOT effect how I interact with people of other races, which to me is the difference with 'non-racist negatives' and real 'racism'. I might dislike a cultural mannerism of a particular race but ill treat any member of that race or any race with the exact same respect as my own regardless of having that dislike.

There has to be more talking about all this and maybe using that dialogue to find a solution to getting rid of these stereotype, it shouldnt be frowned on, all it does when its attacked, is it makes the person who cries racism in those situations look like an ostrich with their head in the sand.

heh, not sure i got what i wanted out... thing is I edited myself a number of times because, hey im a white guy and I gotta think before i speak about these things. So in a way, typing this out proves to me that the study is correct.

But we all knew it already... bring on the alien invasion, anything to solidify us as a species rather than a collection of races. What saddens me is that some peoples lives are so defined by race now that they cant live without that affirmation they get when they can call someone a 'Racist'.

It isn't white people who are the most racist in England, we bend over backwards to make foreigners feel at home. And most do, if people from America or most parts of Europe come they fit in fine. Look at the Polish communities, they are thriving! I know quite a few Poles and people from the Check Republic (Although I cant spell it lol) and they all fit in fine. They work hard, some play hard too. They integrate and you can have a good laugh with them. If some one does make a stereo typical joke about them they normally follow it up by making a joke about us. No big deal, its just banter.

But a lot (not all) of the muslim communities in Britain are just a pain in the ass, they dont respect our laws. They dont respect our culture and they dont respect us. Its like they are just full of hate against us.

Iv been called a "white b*stard" and the like off loads of muslim kids, and they are aged about 5 most of them as well.

So I think that they are that racist against us that they perceive everything we do as racist against them. If you get me.

I used to work in a company with about 3-4 immigrant pakistanis, they couldn't speak English and had just arrived. There was some problems with their wages and when they was talking about it, it came out that all of them bar 1 was getting there wages paid into the same account. The other came in with bank statements and he had over £10,000 in the account! None of the wages had been touched and he had at least 8/9 other wages paid into that account. Now you tell me that that isn't a tax/benefit fiddle.

Bottom line is, people from the middle east should be brought here on trial and provide a guarantor. Like a new job, you make one mistake and your kicked out. And we'l bill any UK relatives for your trouble.