The responses from the anti-Obama people in this thread are really showing their true colors here. At least 35% of people voted for Obama because he's black? How many voted for McCain because Obama was black? A lot of black people came out and voted for Obama, and a lot of poor white trash people came out and voted for McCain.

But it's some how justified for the white people to vote for McCain based on racial ideas. I'm sorry, I don't get that.

Just to reiterate for the 100th time in this thread, I am not suggesting you haters stop having a productive discussion about Obama and his supporters. I'm suggesting you START having a productive discussion and stop ridiculing and mocking his supporters.

What you've been doing this whole time is totally unproductive. In which reality do people come over to your way of thinking after you've ridiculed them sufficiently?

You guys don't want anything resolved because you enjoy the mocking and the ridiculing, you enjoy the judgement because being right and being better than me is more important than seeing this country make progress and lift up out of the mire.

Funny how the haters have cornered the market on patriotism and yet they're the one's wishing failure to Obama 24-7. Nice work guys, way to show your love for your country and your fellow man. Forgive me if i don't take a page out of your books.

Originally posted by slicobacon
Another enlightened thread by someone who only believes there are only two parties. This attitude is the reason there are only 2 viable choices in national elections.

Huh? I am registered as No Party Affiliation here in Florida. I supported Ron Paul in the Republican Primaries and voted for Obama in the general election. I happen to believe that the 2 "viable choices in national elections" are the very same parties we should be totally ignoring as a whole. So i'm not sure how you've concluded that I only think there are two parties.

Originally posted by slicobacon
Not all anti Obama people are pro Bush. So judging my criticism of Obama by pointing at Bush is pointless. It was fine for all the liberals to point their fingers at Bush and his cronies but now that its happening to Obama - oh well, that can't be.

Yes, it is fine for all the liberals to point their fingers at Bush and his cronies, just like it's fine for all the conservatives to point their fingers at Obama and his. But don't point your finger at ME and say that *I* am drinking the kool-aid, don't try to make me look or feel stupid based on my opinions, don't try and belittle or downgrade me because you don't agree with the President's policies. It's a stupid thoughtless tactic that has no basis in the mind of a logical person. It's a knee-jerk reaction that is only destructive.

Originally posted by Bringer
If you are so educated why is it so difficult for you to realize that the president is just a puppet and nothing more? and it would have been no different electing McCain.

You don't have to be educated to realize that. Throughout the history of the last 30 or so years, you've seen Presidents coming from opposite sides of the aisle making the same decisions, pushing the same agendas. There's a little back-and-forth, sure, but it's just for show. But this thread isn't about how the President is a puppet, and that observation doesn't further this topic in any way because it's not about that. It would be like asking me what my favorite fruit is, and me telling you that Vegetables are bad for you.

Originally posted by SailorinAZ
Obama did not win by much and nearly all the African Americans who voted, voted for Obama and voted for him based on the color of his skin.

What's your point? I am sure there were a lot of redneck "traditional" voters out there who voted for McCain on the basis that he's NOT black. It's no different than voting for George Bush in 2004 because you thought John Kerry looked too French.

Originally posted by SailorinAZ
Conservatives poke fun at those who voted for Obama because of how so many of them act like total idiots in his presence. In addition, the majority of those who voted for Obama really can't give a valid reason as to why they voted for him.

Totally incorrect. Conservatives are verbally abusive to Obama supporters because of how it makes them feel. They're sore about losing the Presidency and see this bashing of Obama supporters as a kind of retribution for all the Bush bashing that was going on. But the difference is that Democrats bashed Bush and his administration, where Republicans are not only bashing Obama and his administration (which is fine), but they're also bashing supporters of Obama.

Additionally, I believe the majority of those who voted for Obama CAN give a valid reason as to why. You said yourself that the vast majority of black people voted for Obama because of his skin. I'm sure a fair number of white people voted for him based on his skin tone too. People who are pro-choice would have had a good reason to vote for him over McCain. There are a million valid reasons to vote for Obama, you just don't want to accept any of them.

Originally posted by slicobacon
Another enlightened thread by someone who only believes there are only two parties. This attitude is the reason there are only 2 viable choices in national elections.

Huh? I am registered as No Party Affiliation here in Florida. I supported Ron Paul in the Republican Primaries and voted for Obama in the general election. I happen to believe that the 2 "viable choices in national elections" are the very same parties we should be totally ignoring as a whole. So i'm not sure how you've concluded that I only think there are two parties.

Originally posted by slicobacon
Not all anti Obama people are pro Bush. So judging my criticism of Obama by pointing at Bush is pointless. It was fine for all the liberals to point their fingers at Bush and his cronies but now that its happening to Obama - oh well, that can't be.

Yes, it is fine for all the liberals to point their fingers at Bush and his cronies, just like it's fine for all the conservatives to point their fingers at Obama and his. But don't point your finger at ME and say that *I* am drinking the kool-aid, don't try to make me look or feel stupid based on my opinions, don't try and belittle or downgrade me because you don't agree with the President's policies. It's a stupid thoughtless tactic that has no basis in the mind of a logical person. It's a knee-jerk reaction that is only destructive.

Originally posted by Bringer
If you are so educated why is it so difficult for you to realize that the president is just a puppet and nothing more? and it would have been no different electing McCain.

You don't have to be educated to realize that. Throughout the history of the last 30 or so years, you've seen Presidents coming from opposite sides of the aisle making the same decisions, pushing the same agendas. There's a little back-and-forth, sure, but it's just for show. But this thread isn't about how the President is a puppet, and that observation doesn't further this topic in any way because it's not about that. It would be like asking me what my favorite fruit is, and me telling you that Vegetables are bad for you.

Originally posted by SailorinAZ
Obama did not win by much and nearly all the African Americans who voted, voted for Obama and voted for him based on the color of his skin.

What's your point? I am sure there were a lot of redneck "traditional" voters out there who voted for McCain on the basis that he's NOT black. It's no different than voting for George Bush in 2004 because you thought John Kerry looked too French.

Originally posted by SailorinAZ
Conservatives poke fun at those who voted for Obama because of how so many of them act like total idiots in his presence. In addition, the majority of those who voted for Obama really can't give a valid reason as to why they voted for him.

Totally incorrect. Conservatives are verbally abusive to Obama supporters because of how it makes them feel. They're sore about losing the Presidency and see this bashing of Obama supporters as a kind of retribution for all the Bush bashing that was going on. But the difference is that Democrats bashed Bush and his administration, where Republicans are not only bashing Obama and his administration (which is fine), but they're also bashing supporters of Obama.

Additionally, I believe the majority of those who voted for Obama CAN give a valid reason as to why. You said yourself that the vast majority of black people voted for Obama because of his skin. I'm sure a fair number of white people voted for him based on his skin tone too. People who are pro-choice would have had a good reason to vote for him over McCain. There are a million valid reasons to vote for Obama, you just don't want to accept any of them.

Edit: Sorry for the double post. My internet seized!

[edit on 2/20/2009 by The Cyfre]

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
the only fact that I may have proposed rather than an opinion is that I think he is cute. The fact being "I think" and the opinion being "he's cute."

Well folks, this should pretty much sum up the entire thread - why are Obama supporters mocked? Um, I mean, yeah... what a SUPER reason for putting a man in the White House to lead the most powerful nation on Earth.

Um, I'm sorry... what was the question again!?!?

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
You'll sacrifice the good of your country to protect some convoluted sense of pride because you were rooting for somebody .

You don't know what you're talking about, man. You've made a lot of assumptions about me in your post and needless to say, you're wrong. You don't know me.

And you don't need to disrespect the people that don't agree with Obama.

Oh, really? Hey, I was just giving you a little of your own medicine. You disrespect people that DO agree with Obama. (traitor, celebrity worshiper, etc) but I'm supposed to treat you with respect ? Look, if you can't take it, I suggest you don't dish it out.

I haven't read every post here yet and I really hope that I am at leased the 10th one saying this, if not we got some big, big problems..........but

Stop playing into the fake left right paradigm!

They are all just front men and they all should be bashed no matter who or what you are. Obama is a front man and Bush was a front man, Clinton was a front man, Bush sir. was a front man. GET IT!

How many times must we say it over and over and over again. They are front men which means that there are men behind him that are the ones that are really in power and tell him what to do and say.

Listen Up, Its Time For A Good Analogy!

Lets say that you like to eat at Burger King, but you got food poisoning the other day from that burger you ate. You would just let it go but this is the 3rd time it has happened to you in a year. So you decide that something needs to be done about it. Who do you go to, too see that there is a change in their policy's to make it so people don't keep getting food poisoning?

Do you go to the manager at your nearest Burger King?

Or

Do you go and speak with franchise owners of the establishment?

Your friends just tell you to go to the local Burger King manager and he will take care of everything for you and he will make sure the polices are changed. And you go and do that but a few days later you hear about someone getting food poisoning yet again.

So you go back in to speak with the manager to say WTF! But when you go in you see that there is a new manager that is dressed nicer and very friendly and even offers you a free meal and free gifts for your troubles. You are very pleased and confident that he will take care of it.

But still a week later, you hear of even more people getting food poisoning. What should your next step be? Hmmm.......MAYBE THE FRANCHISE OWNERS YOU THINK!

Common people its not really that hard to figure it out. You just need to look beyond what they put in front of you and really think about it.

yay one corrupt regime replaced by another... should I rejoice now?