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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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I didn't know how else to title this thread, so that's the best I can do on such short notice.

So during the election we all remember Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity talking about Obama's supporters as though they were zombies, and referring to Obama mockingly as "The Messiah," "The Chosen One," "The Annointed One," and i'm sure many more. I thought it was offensive then and I think it's offensive now.

This letter is targeted to the conservatives out there who can't get over the fact that they're not in control. I understand why you're nervous, why you're feeling vulnerable. Your party is officially responsible for a lot of pretty bad things that have happened over the past 8 years. It got so bad for Democrats that everyone began to assume they would screw it up on their own, and they did.

But Republicans over the last few years specifically have really begun to turn the tide in favor of Democrats, not because they're liberal, but because they're not Republicans.

I get that you guys are nervous about not being in power, not for the sake of power itself, but because your party has a lot to answer for. You're afraid that now that the Democrats are in control of everything (everything), all the liberal Americans out there are going to turn on YOU.

So, instead of wait for your liberal friends to start calling YOU stupid because Bush is now gone and your party lost the election with a pretty unelectable candidate in John McCain, you thought, "What Would Bush Do?"

Pre-emptive strike! You figure it's probably just best to keep attacking liberals, attack them SO much that they'll NEVER be able to attack you.

So months after the election i'm still hearing Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and many more regular every-day people making fun NOT of Obama, but of the people who voted for Obama. That's not cool at all, and it really needs to stop.

It's okay to disrespect our politicians and our leaders, but we go down a very dark road when we start disrespecting eachother for our set of beliefs and ideologies. Saying I am "Obaminated," "Obamafied," "Obama-tazzed," (ok i made that one up) or whatever, isn't meant to attack Obama. It's meant to attack ME simply because I voted for him.

I may have called George Bush a lot of bad things, but I have never said anything bad about the people who voted for him because they're Americans just like I am, and we're all supposed to be in this together. Or maybe I just live in a fantasy world where people care about each other, EVEN when it's not September 11th.



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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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Yet another "blame game", finger pointing thread.

Where does it end??? :shk:



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:49 PM
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I'm not one of those guys who doesn't point a finger, and I don't think there's anything wrong with laying a little blame. It got people motivated to toss out a corrupt Republican party, and hopefully it will get people motivated to toss out a corrupt Democratic party in a few years and usher in a period where Americans realize there's more than two parties. But that's just me.

You didn't even address my point at all, by the way. Why can't we stop belittling each other based on who we favor politically?



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:50 PM
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We should be able to do just that.

But, it is better to rise above the problem than just throw more fuel on the fire in an effort to put it out.

JMO....

[edit on 2/19/2009 by skeptic1]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:53 PM
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I don't bash Obama supporters. they had a vote just like I did and their guy won. However, I will bash Obama and it will have nothing to do with his color. It is just the fact that i don't agree with many of his policies and I feel he is a very arrogant guy. That being said i still don't want to see him fail. I really wish him the best.


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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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I was surprised to see this thread? Are there still any Obama's supporters left after the recent stream of political disasters? The non-taxpaying appointments, the farcical stimulus bill, the latest bail out etc etc etc. Pretty much he hasn't done anything other than show his lack of experience.


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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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Obama supporters are mocked for one simple reason - it's incredibly easy to mock them.
I asked countless BO supporters why they supported him and the reason I heard from all of them was, "He's for change." Oh, ok, I get that. So then I would follow up with, "What does that mean? What change?" And none of them could formulate the words to explain what change they thought they would get with BO. THAT is why they're easy to mock. They don't have a clue what "change" is - "change is socialism to the extreme apparently. He and congress are going to screw this country up so bad that I don't think we'll ever be able to recover. I have heard it could take 40 yrs to undo his policies, but I doubt that will ever be accomplished. When you give everyone handouts, they're not too happy when you ask them to remove their hand from your face and accept nothing in their fist.



[edit on 19-2-2009 by Ron Paul Girl]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:57 PM
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So we should just kind of stand aside and allow one group of Americans to tear down another group based on who they voted for, because addressing it would just be pouring more fuel on the fire?

That form of "rising above it" doesn't address it, doesn't solve it, doesn't fix anything. Unless i'm missing something. By the time people come around on their own, the USA will be past-tense.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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And, pointing fingers, placing blame, and whining about it does?



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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If I remember right, Obama is only in office because of the people that voted for him. Sure, we can trash his politics and ideas, but we wouldn't even need to if the people hadn't put him there.

So I don't see it as out of line to mock them, sure there's a line, but I love riling my friend up by calling him an Obama-tron, and then demolishing him on actual politics.

[edit on 2/19/2009 by eNumbra]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Ron Paul Girl
Obama supporters are mocked for one simple reason - it's incredibly easy to mock them.
I asked countless BO supporters why they supported him and the reason I heard from all of them was, "He's for change."


Wow, it's crazy that every Obama supporter just says "he's for change" and trails off. It reminds me of McCain supporters and their lame "Country First" mantra. They're the same thing. They're useless slogans that mean nothing today, just like they have meant nothing throughout the history of presidential elections!



Originally posted by Ron Paul Girl
"change is socialism to the extreme apparently. He and congress are going to screw this country up so bad that I don't think we'll ever be able to recover. I have heard it could take 40 yrs to undo his policies, but I doubt they'll ever be done. When you give everyone handouts, they're not too happy when you ask them to remove their hand from your face and accept nothing in their fist.


This sounds like the polar opposite of what Liberal Bush-haters were saying about the former President. I can't believe i'm still hearing about socialism when there is no real basis for any of it. I think it's a petty scare tactic.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:04 PM
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Obama who?

*one liners don't like this do they?

wZn



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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I still love Obama, and I still don't care what anyone says.
If people want to mock me, whatever, but I will mock you right back (and probably have)
^_^



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Yes, pointing fingers and placing blame does help to resolve the issue. It shines a spotlight on the situation. In the case of the last administration, placing blame was hugely responsible for the Democrats gaining control of the Senate, House and Presidency.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:16 PM
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You voted for him and you are not a victim.

And, using your logic, people can point the finger at you and blame you because you and the others that voted for him put us in the current mess we are in now with this pork package that is being sold as stimulus.

Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?? :shk:



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:20 PM
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Who's mocking Obama supporters? Heck, we are all so proud of Obama, that we sing his praises daily:



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:27 PM
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I never said I was a victim, I know i'm not a victim. ?

Yes, using my logic you can absolutely blame me for the state of the union, and you could also give me credit for the good things that happen. I'm responsible in part because I put him in office.

It absolutely makes sense. But it doesn't make sense to mock me and call me an Obamaniac or insinuate that I honestly believe Obama (affectionally known as BO, real classy) "descended from the heavens" to lead us to the promised land.

I don't believe that you like waterboarding people in your spare time, do I?



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:27 PM
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I think that if people are honest about their opinions and don't try to force them on anyone, like me, no one will be mocked.

I mean, I'm clearly addicted to Obama. And I support whatever he decides to do, within reason. And I really haven't had anyone go up to me and say "YOU'RE SO IGNORANT AND DUMB AND A FOLLOWER." Because 1) If I were a follower, I probably wouldn't be happy with him right now, and I am. and 2) people can't argue opinions, only proposed facts. I never said he is the greatest individual to ever set foot in the White House. I may think he is (I don't), the only fact that I may have proposed rather than an opinion is that I think he is cute. The fact being "I think" and the opinion being "he's cute."



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by The Cyfre
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So we should just kind of stand aside and allow one group of Americans to tear down another group based on who they voted for, because addressing it would just be pouring more fuel on the fire?



I take it you didn't trash President Bush or his supporters?



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by The Cyfre
Yes, pointing fingers and placing blame does help to resolve the issue. It shines a spotlight on the situation. In the case of the last administration, placing blame was hugely responsible for the Democrats gaining control of the Senate, House and Presidency.


You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!

So WHY isn't this new administration pointing the fingers at who caused this economic crisis? Why is there no blame placed on these bankers who have shuffled WORTHLESS paper around and have brought our economy to the verge of complete collapse.

Why isn't a spotlight being shown on the fraud that has been perpetrated, exposing it for what it is?

Why instead, is this administration doing exactly like the last and pumping more money to the fraud perpetrating bankers.

Why are the tax cheats in this administration, even after having the spotlight shown on them, getting a pass?

In fact, why is the single man responsible for the engineering of the takeunder of Bear Sterns now our Treasury Secretary?

Why has the banking index lost 30% IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS even though we are promised fix after fix and stimulus after stimulus? This is taking down the GOOD BANKS NOW!!

Where's that Ever Promised CHANGE???

All we have is more of the same and more lies too.

SO if we are bashing, we have a right to - NOTHING is CHANGING - at least not for the BETTER - It's getting WORSE so bad in fact that before Obama finishes his first 100 days we may no longer be a sovereign country.

Obama could have walked into office on Nov 4th and ordered:

1. That a memo goes out in the AM to every bank in America: No more lies. If you lie, even once, your bank gets seized and you will be criminally charged personally. Period.

2. The OTS and OCC rules are IMMEDIATELY amended to state: All bank examinations are public data. All examinations must either have every asset marked to the market or the full model and data inputs must be disclosed, without exception.

3. He could have given every bank in America 72 hours to disclose their current Tier Capital numbers under those rules. They have 'em in the possession of their Risk Manager. Let's have it. In public. You publish it, we print it. Everyone who is under-capitalized and has been hiding it - your shares are suspended.

4. For those who are under-capitalized: If you have sufficient capital in your debt to be crammed down, that's what happens. Your common equity is gone. Preferred is crammed down, if that's insufficient it is gone. Next we do subordinateds, and repeat until sufficient capital is restored. End of discussion.

5. For those who cannot be crammed down we seize you. Your deposits and good assets are auctioned off to sound institutions, spread among the physical locations of those assets and deposits so no concentration of more than 5% in one bank occurs. The rest of the assets go the FDIC and are run down or auctioned off as they deem appropriate.

6. Any bank with more than 5% of the deposit base has 12 months to reduce it to under 5%. This affects fewer than 20 institutions.

7. No bank may transact in any instrument that is (1) not a whole loan or (2) is not traded on an exchange. Period. Any such "assets" currently held must be disposed of within six months. No exceptions.

8. Any bank that finds (7) onerous (and most will) is free to split itself into two firms, one a bank and the second a non-bank affiliate held by the parent. The affiliate may not utilize depositor capital or otherwise be cross-contaminated with bank assets and support, but is of course free to raise money via debt offerings in the marketplace such as it is. Said non-bank firm may trade in whatever it would like, however, it will not receive any government support of any kind. Cross-contamination of any sort between a regulated bank and a non-bank sub will be treated and prosecuted as bank fraud. Any existing "affiliate" bank credit lines must be extinguished within 90 days and "23A letters" are explicitly disallowed.

9. Reserve ratios are set at 8% with no exceptions.

10. Bernanke will do as the above directs without complaint or I will exercise my lawful and Constitutional authority to issue United States Notes, bypassing The Fed entirely. Ben and The Fed work under my direction, not the other way around. End of discussion.

11. Any bank that does not want TARP money may repay it immediately. If you keep it, no employee may receive total compensation exceeding that of the President of The United States, without exception and in all forms, including stock, options as valued under Black-Scholes, deferred compensation, benefits and cash. Period. You are working for us, therefore we set your salaries.

Not only would those 11 steps have shown that this administration was HONEST, it would have stopped this crises in it's tracks. Oh we'd still have a rough go, but not the complete collapse we are staring down the barrel of.

Look we all know that the last 4 administrations did some really bad things, but they are GONE.

Obama made people believe that he would have a transparent honest and different administration, but he's proving that all those promises were lies - and in less than 30 days!!!

So if we bash, DEAL WITH IT

The American People ARE SICK OF THE LIES, THE FRAUD, AND THE OUTRIGHT THEFT OF OUR WEALTH BY POLITICIANS AND BANKERS.





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