Wonder why they hate us?, page 1

Originally posted by Ocelot
To tell you the truth things are so bad down there right now that I dont know what they can do to fix things. One thing is clear. They dont want us there. So maybe the best thing to do is help them establish their own government and then get the hell out of there. Maybe help them out with some foreign aid to help pay for what we destroyed.

Those people who are attacking don't want us there. But there are only a couple of hundred of them coming at us at a time. What about the people that are trying to get on with their lives and have nothing to do with the conflict (to the best of their ability)?

I assure you that if we left now, there would be tens of thousands of Iraqis more pissed off at us than there are now. And that's because these militants that are attacking are the ones that would attempt to rule Baghdad with force and oppression. You would see worse inhumanity if we left than if we had just left Saddam where he was.

Not to mention that once we left, the three power entities in and around Baghdad would have to have it out to determine who would be king of the hill, and with the limited resources at their disposal, there would be no clear winner, no decisive victory in the near future to rest the power balance.

So say at the end of June we hand over governance to a body of 'elected' officials charged with dealing with what we have created. Where's their police force or their military that will protect the people from those who dissagree with the arrangement. Where's the border patrol to make sure that other insurgents don't just lolly-gag their ways across the border with AKs, RPGs, and crude explosives? No, I'm afraid we're not going anywhere, because if we did, we would have a hornet's nest to deal with. That Iraq would be a perfect place for terrorists with murder on their minds to set up shop and plan the next big one. And then, when we learned that there were terrorists hiding in Iraq, plotting, we'd have to bomb the hell out of it again, like we did before...

I think we need to do everything we can to ensure that we don't have to drop anymore bombs (not that we had to in the first place, but you know cowboys... loose cannon bastard).

Look, the people that don't want us there are most likely the thugs that would be screwing things up if we weren't there anyway. In fact, those of them who are Iraqis I bet are the mostly the same individuals that Saddam freed from his prison prior to the invasion. You know why he did that, right? To make it hard for us. Release all the violent criminals, for the purpose of carrying out violence against an invading force.

You're right, Ocelot, things are bad, but they're not out of control. These people that are attacking have only a plan of deter and distract. All they want to do is put a wrench in the works, and they have no long term goals. It's unfortunate, but the only way I can see out of this smelling anything unlike burning flesh, is to lock down the entire Baghdad area and flush it. Intern those who can be found not to be a threat, engage in battle, and secure a decisive victory. Then things will be peaceful.

DeltaChaos