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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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China lets it snow to end drought


Beijing enjoyed its third day of artificially induced snow on Thursday after its longest drought in 38 years.

The four-month drought ended on Tuesday when snow fell after iodide sticks had been fired into the sky to seed clouds.

Hundreds of sticks were also blasted on Wednesday to increase the snowfall over northern China.

"The snow has brought moisture to the soil, which may help end the drought," Guo Yingchun, an engineer at a meteorological observatory said.


news.bbc.co.uk...

Couldn't a government who 'artificialy manipulate their own climatic conditions' be seen as a little bit irresponsible -could it not have unknown ramifications for the global weather system as a whole?

The 'induced snow in China' story was reported by the BBC -I don't know if theres any objective evidence for cloudseeding technology but if there is,what happens when everybody starts doing it?


[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]




posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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China is not the only country actively engaged in cloud seeding. Most arid regions have a great deal of interest in it and have used it successfully. The topic is not without controversy but there is a big difference between weather modification (cloud seeding) and climate control. By its nature, precipitation enhancement covers very localized areas.

www.nawcinc.com...
www.bom.gov.au...
www.water.utah.gov...
www.easternbookcorporation.com...
cloudseeding.dri.edu...
www.irinnews.org...
www.ucar.edu...
dailystaregypt.com...


BTW, China does regulate their weather modification activities.
www.cma.gov.cn...

[edit on 2/19/2009 by Phage]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:26 PM
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Why don't they send some over to Australia? They are having a serious drought and I'm sure, could use the moisture.... This is such an interesting science. Does anyone know how it might interfere with natural weather systems, or since it is so localized, does it not impact them? Why aren't we doing this everywhere, if it doesn't have any negative ramifications, I can list a bunch of places that could benefit from this..



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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you need the right conditions and clouds for seeding to work.
You can't just shoot into blue sky and hope it rains.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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hmmm a double post
slow connection today

[edit on 19-2-2009 by munkey66]

[edit on 19-2-2009 by munkey66]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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You may have missed this link:
www.bom.gov.au...



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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Phage thanks for the comprehensive reply -quite a lot of reading to do there.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by kaffemoka
Why don't they send some over to Australia? They are having a serious drought and I'm sure, could use the moisture....


Well actually, only parts of us are having a drought. Mainly only in Victoria. The rest of the country has been having quite heavy rain. There are still a few town cut off from civilisation


I actually work for Phage's second link


And yes, cloud seeding is still an ineffective way of making it rain. You need the right clouds, mid level clouds, and the upper reaches of convective low clouds, plus the right wind conditions.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Any technology can be used for both good and evil. While conspiracy-theorists rave about weather manipulation and are being told "it does not exist", on the other side of the globe they are using it for something good.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Any technology can be used for both good and evil. While conspiracy-theorists rave about weather manipulation and are being told "it does not exist", on the other side of the globe they are using it for something good.


Well that depends on what weather manipulation you are talking about


HAARP- No

Cloud Seeding- Yes

The only problem with cloud seeding is, its not effective enough to stimulate the growth of water droplets around the silver iodide particles. Plus it not a long term solution to lack of rain. It doesnt last all that long, but it certainly helps cloud development and stimulates a higher possibility of supersaturation occuring.



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 01:49 PM
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Oz -interesting stuff. up:
It appears they've been at it again with the Silver Iodide:


Beijing to manipulate weather on Oct. 1

Beijing is preparing to manipulate the weather to ensure that it does not rain on its National Day parade on Oct 1.

Zhang Qiang, deputy director of the Beijing Weather Modification Office, told China Daily that "artificial rain reduction" measures were in place for the National Day celebration, during which President Hu Jintao will give a speech and the military will parade past the Tian'anmen Square.

Similar moves were taken during the Beijing Olympic Games last year, when meteorological workers fired 1,104 rain dispersal rockets from 21 sites in the capital on the eve of the opening ceremony, which prevented a rain belt from moving toward the stadium.

"From weather records for the National Day in Beijing in the past three decades, we see a 30 percent chance of rainfall, mostly drizzle," Guo Hu, head of the Beijing meteorological bureau (BMB), told China Daily.


Silver Iodide:

The common way for artificial rain reduction is cloud seeding -- dispersing substances like silver iodide into the air to alter the microphysical processes within the cloud. The chemical can cause temporary incapacitation or possible residual injury to humans and mammals if intensively exposed.

But the amount used in rain reduction is small, which causes no harm to the environment or humans, Ye said.

en.ce.cn...



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 02:37 PM
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It just makes you wonder how more advanced china is (technology wise) then the rest of the world.



posted on Nov, 2 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Maddogkull
It just makes you wonder how more advanced china is (technology wise) then the rest of the world.


Well,according to this report they got it wrong for once.



China overdoes cloud seeding to end drought... and blankets Beijing in snow

By Mail Foreign Service

Last updated at 7:11 PM on 02nd November 2009

Chinese weather scientists were embarrassingly caught out by a sudden cold snap yesterday.
They had decided to 'seed' clouds with chemicals to produce rain and ease a drought in Beijing.
The operation went exactly as they had hoped - except that temperatures dropped sharply and the precipitation fell as snow.
It kept going for half the day, blanketing the capital's streets and hitting air and road travel. It was the earliest snow in Beijing for ten years.


www.dailymail.co.uk...
Cheers.



posted on Nov, 14 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Too much snow or too much cloudseeding?



7,000 buildings collapse in China under
heaviest snow on record
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13 Nov 09 – Unusually early snowstorms in northern China have stranded tens of thousands of vehicles and motorists, led to the deaths of 38 people, forced the evacuation of 158,000 people, and forced delays or cancellation of hundreds of flights in several cities, including China's capital city, Beijing.

The snow - heaviest in the area since records began - has caused more than half a billion dollars in damage, including the collapse of more than 7,000 buildings and damage to 297,000 acres (120,000 hectares) of crops, the Civil Affairs Ministry said Friday.

www.iceagenow.com...



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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...and none of the chines news sources mention that it was 'accidentally' caused by their weather machines

news.xinhuanet.com...

what a shock.



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