The President dosn't even know whats in that blob of cr$p!! Its to late for them to calm the storm anyway. United States Citizens are mad as hell and I believe we are close to calling the Feds bluff. Call your reps. be professional but firm. Can somone look at the Constatution and see if this is even withen the power of the Fed? The people have the power to stop this if we would stand up and say NO, and show that we mean what we say.
What would these bozos do if we all stayed home for a week?

Originally posted by bpg131313

Originally posted by Helmkat
Yet when asked if he would go to Washington to fix it he said

"No".


If he won't put his big mouth where his money is then he is no better then the rest.

End of story.

We could all go to Washington to try and solve this problem, but we'd get a grin from the people with power and be pushed to the side. There's no way to fix the system as it exists today. Santelli would do his best, I'm sure, but we already have Ron Paul in the House and while he has offered solution after solution to this disaster, he's been smiled at and shoved aside.

As I said, there's no way to fix the system as it exists today. Some European nations will collapse, with us following quickly behind them. As of this writing, the CNBC Poll states as follows:

233,008 Participants

94% = Yes
4.7% = No
1.5% - Not Sure

I must humbly disagree on some points.

Any person of power in an elected position can be removed from power. What has happened here is the result of public apathy -"I can't make a difference."- well those chickens have come home to rooste. The gears of the American political system could be wiped clean in a very short time-if we simply chose to do so-. Our forefathers would be ashamed of how poorly -all of us- have treated their creation.

Now the economic issues are an entirely different issue and one I'm not afraid to say is to complex for me to understand fully. However much of it is driven by greed and fear and I can only hope we can overcome those terrible failings of our nature.

I must humbly disagree on some points.

Any person of power in an elected position can be removed from power. What has happened here is the result of public apathy -"I can't make a difference."- well those chickens have come home to rooste. The gears of the American political system could be wiped clean in a very short time-if we simply chose to do so-. Our forefathers would be ashamed of how poorly -all of us- have treated their creation.

Now the economic issues are an entirely different issue and one I'm not afraid to say is to complex for me to understand fully. However much of it is driven by greed and fear and I can only hope we can overcome those terrible failings of our nature.

And I'll give you that. I've been a part of grassroots campaigning here in Washington State to oust both Senators Cantwell and Murray, to no avail. The far left liberals in Snohomish, Pierce, and King Counties are too many. We've been outgunned every single time. Does that mean I give up? Certainly not. But I've been disappointed enough times to know that while we continue to press for change here in my State, the majority simply want to spend their way out of debt and never want to be bothered with the details. I've been proactive. I've done my patriotic duty by being engaged in the system. I read as much of the legislation as I can (though it's gotten so cryptic these days that it's nearly impossible to do without all of the US Code there in front of you - it's certainly not in plain English). I agree with you that most are willfully ignorant of what's going on and don't want to get involved. Schools don't teach students (at least around here) about getting involved in the legislative process. My mom works at a high school and when visiting one day I asked one of the teachers about our State Constitution and I got a deer in the headlights look. When I asked them if they were aware we had one, they said yes, but that they'd never read it. This coming from a teacher. The entire system is completely corrupted by business interests that only want kids to learn enough to do the work, not to be smart enough to figure out how they are being screwed over by the system (thanks to George Carlin for enlightening me). I'm not apathetic. I do everything I can to engage the process and talk to my Senators and Representatives on both the State and Federal Level. I'll agree with you that I'm the exception rather than the rule though.

Santelli has it right, in that we need to bring the people together and let the people in Congress and the White House know that we're not going to let the wool be pulled over our eyes any longer. If we can't come about meaningful change through the processes created by our Founding Fathers, then it's time we discuss coming about meaningful change by emulating the actions our Founding Fathers took. If that means a Chicago Tea Party, so be it. If that means reviving the "Sons of Liberty" once again, so be it. But one thing is certain. The Founding Fathers knew this day would come. They knew the system would decay from within due to greed and corruption from big business interests that aren't interested at all in what the People want. That's why they wrote in the Declaration of Independence, "that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the right of the People to alter or Abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." Of course, what I'm simply suggesting here is that we actually revert to following the Constitution we have rather than trying to write a new one.

Bailing out a failing auto industry is Unconstitutional. Bailing out mortgage holders (whether they be home or business) is Unconstitutional. Bailing out banks that made extremely poor decisions based on greed (notice not a single Credit Union is asking for money) is Unconstitutional. All of this is Unconstitutional. I'm simply asking that We the People embrace our Constitution and the words written in it by our Founding Fathers. Santelli knows that, and we all know that. The Government we have now, is not one our Founding Fathers would support.

Originally posted by RolandBrichter
From Denninger:

Let's be clear here: There is no way out of this box, and the corruption and fraud have permeated every corner of our financial, media and governmental systems.

...

But there IS a way out, and, through an engaging story, I have outlined it in my book.

The book may come across as science fiction initially, but the map to a better world is within the framework of the story.

Link is in my sig.

[edit on 2/20/2009 by Amaterasu]

This is the first I've opined on this particular issue. Santelli has long been my favorite "on air persona" at CNBS. He's one of the smarter guys on there, and he's in Chicago, not New York so he's farther removed from the epicenters of this mess in NY and DC. Santelli covers the bond market, from the pitts. I remember when I first started watching CNBC and he was the guy that talked about things I didn't understand (bonds, debt etc).

I'm kinda surprised he evoked a reaction from the White House. I saw the pres Secretary remarks and was rather revolted. The press Secretary implied Santelli didn't understand this situation, and I had to laugh. As I said Santelli is one of the smartest guys on CNBC, and the arguments between him an Liesman are probably one of the few reasons to still watch CNBC (Rick is also one of the main reasons I still watch it).

Actually, it's a good sign that the White House is attacking Rick Santelli.
It PROVES that they are scared. I think they realize that we're one step away from total anarchy in this country, and it is the government that is pushing us there.
oN THE DOWN SIDE, I wouldn't be surprised to see a WH attempt to put pressure on the networks to keep the rhetoric down.
They had to be wetting their pants when they saw Rick's clip, and when they saw that over 160,000 people had taken the poll concerning Rick's "tea Party" and 93% OF AMERICANS SAID THAT THEY WOULD JOIN THE TEA PARTY.

I watched Bill Maher tonight and his closing monologue, was pretty good about what we should do with some of the people responsible for this mess.

Ok, so we are all apparently nuts.


This guy is calling for action...

Ron Paul says we should just do nothing and let everyone go bankrupt..

Which is it? Do nothing or take action? What _IS_ the best thing to do?

From what I have seen, the more convinced you are that you have the right answer, the more chance you have of being completely wrong.