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Are you claiming that the translation of the Palestinian media is incorrect? If so point to the multiple cases of those translations being wrong. You are really grasping at straws here. It's the actual broadcasts of Palestinian created media. Do you dispute that?
Originally posted by Obliterated
I cannot find an Arabic news source with a story which even slightly resembles the one posted by the op.
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Originally posted by BlueRaja
That's an "interesting" perspective- Israel waging a campaign against bomb shelters with bunker busters, so they can maximize collateral damage with the minimum amount of evidence.
The intro accusations posted against the Palestinians to justify Israel's Shock and Awe were their aggressions which included making tunnels.
Originally posted by Obliterated
reply to post by pavil
Are you claiming that the translation of the Palestinian media is incorrect? If so point to the multiple cases of those translations being wrong. You are really grasping at straws here. It's the actual broadcasts of Palestinian created media. Do you dispute that?
If you read my post 2nd from the top on pg2 of this thread you will see where i have quoted the origional post by the op and then where i have posted a contradicting story relating to the same event from a different source with a completely different take on the story.
In my post I have pointed out a major error which shows that the familys name quoted by the op's post is "The Abd Rabbo Family". When in fact Abd Rabbo is the name of a town located in Gaza strip. They couldn't even get that part right.
I cannot find an Arabic news source with a story which even slightly resembles the one posted by the op.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
Hamas, Hezbollah, etc... do use tunnels for military purposes(i.e. caches, points of entry, etc..), just like the North Koreans.
He spoke of a huge network of tunnels designed to enable Hamas fighters to attack and retreat, to ambush and kidnap, to blow up Israeli vehicles passing overhead and move undetected by aerial surveillance. He talked of mines which have been laid but are not primed until the Israelis approach. He described how plans had been prepared to defend each part of the city, and how they were immediately changed when a fighter was captured. If a fighter was killed, another was trained to take his place
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A detailed, hand-drawn Hamas map of a neighbourhood called Al-Atatra, discovered by Israeli paratroopers last week on the body of a Hamas fighter, showed tunnels, sniper positions next to a mosque and numerous explosive devices planted in roads, homes and a petrol station. The neighbourhood had been divided into three, with a team of fighters allocated to each.
Mr Ben-Yishai told The Times that his unit found a mannequin filled with explosives in a hallway in the Zaytun area of Gaza City. It was dressed in a Hamas fighter’s black uniform. Had Israeli soldiers fired on it, it would have exploded and brought down the building. In the hallway of another house, a 30-gallon container of diesel fuel had been placed on two sacks of explosives, with a detonation wire running through a tunnel to a shack 200 metres away. Instead of entering houses through doorways, Israeli soldiers now blow holes in the walls and send sniffer dogs in first.
Originally posted by pavil
Originally posted by Obliterated
reply to post by pavil
If you would have read my posts you would have shown me where the Arabic into English translations of Palestinian broadcasts on PMW were inaccurate. Now that is the third time I have made such a request. You are comparing two different news reports of the same events where I am asking someone to prove a translation is inaccurate. Apples and oranges IMO.
I cannot find an Arabic version of the story from which to translate it. There is also no reference as to where the story was obtained from.
As for the videos on different stories, the articles which correspond with them have a very bias spin to them. They are far from objective. In the videos you will also notice that in the translations words which are not said are added to demonstrate who is being reffered to eg, [palestinians] or [hamas] etc.. when maybe they are infact reffering to Israel. The videos are cropped so that their context cannot be determined.
Translating from Arabic to English is difficult because the English language doesn't have words which match the Arabic ones and vice-verca.
Also in english the placing of a single comma or a full stop alters the entire meaning of a sentance.
Terror in America (24): Hamas Weekly: Anthrax should be put into America's drinking water
www.haaretz.com...
The Defense Ministry is attempting to block or delay the release of a new report criticizing the Israel Institute for Biological Research in Nes Tziona for its experiment on an anthrax vaccine, which allegedly afflicted the trial subjects.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
You ask what members think. Well Israel conducted a siege on the whole of Gaza. The governing authority mobilised and mounted defences in an area that is all civilian. As for Hamas using householders as human shields, I doubt they would use their own people in this manner and it would not work because Israel would kill both civilian and non-civilian.
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