reply to post by TruthParadox
It is illogical to you because you lack the basic understandings that are needed to understand it. I know this because it was once illogical to me
as well, and I seen it just the way you do.
You are basing your understanding not on what you can find the truth in, but rather on what the people who do things in the name of Jesus or any other
religion says. And that is the error. The way the Christians explain it is wrong, but to focus on that wrong explanation as a way of debunking is
no different than say a topic about aliens and using the worse example of an obvious hoax you can find as a way of debunking it.
There are 2000 years of misunderstandings, deliberate manipulations and so forth. No doubt about it. But if you can't see the difference in the
manipulation and what is meant, then you are still blind to the truth being spoken.
For example, the entire notion of people saying you shouldn't question god. This is false. It's the exact opposite. And you can sit around and
point out these ignorant people as a way of dismissing it all if you want. However, I'd rather point out things like this:
7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Everything you can name that is wrong with the Christian religion is things Jesus was completely the opposite on.
With a few simple understandings, the things the bible says makes sense. Is it exact Science? No. Remember these are understandings in the context
of people 2000 years ago. Imagine trying to explain how a radio works to someone back then. It's going to end up sounding like magic to them.
And so something may be described in such a way, but if you have understanding then you will see what it is talking about.
Everything that Jesus dealt with is apparent and here today. But you can't see that Jesus was fighting the same exact fight then that we do now
unless you understand. Jews = Christian. Pharisees = Preachers like John Hagee. Romans = government. Moneychangers = Central Banking.
Synogauges = Churches. The names and such change, but the actual meanings and understandings behind these do not.
What does it mean to actually seek the truth? If you are looking for anyway of debunking something, then you were never looking for the truth. You
were looking for a way to debunk it, and that is what you will find. When I search for truth I may listen to something that is 99% trash/junk. But
it is the 1% of truth within that I look for. So if you want to find truth, then you need to look for the truth in things, rather than pointing out
and focusing on the lies. When you dismiss something for the lie, then you also dismiss any truth which may be found inside as well.
I do not see things in absolutes. I see things in patterns and actions(fruits). I do not look at the church and say - oh they are about Jesus. I
look at the actions of the church and realize they are the exact same function as a synagogue. These are keys.
The bible is full of keys. The easiest key is this - Jesus = truth, the way and the light. This means when you see Jesus, you can exchange his
name for these. The truth. The truth was sacrificed so that the lie of this world can live. Those who find salvation in his death find salvation
in the lie. This I call the church of Satan. Because it is in his life and example that truth is told, and I find salvation in his life, not in his
death. I know why what he said is true, I know why he did and lived the way he did. Even if it is just a fake story, it is still telling you the
What people like NJ do is about like taking the Movie the Matrix. And then you saying it shows the truth and the Matrix is real. And then NJ comes
along, haha prove to me these Machines exist. It's just a movie. All the while ignoring the truth the movie is giving. Such is ignorance.
And that is the same thing that is being done with the bible, by design I might add.
The literal interpretation of the bible is ignorant. And to argue for or against the literal interpretation is ignorance, because you have failed
to understand either way. So see beyond it. Look at the story of Jesus like you do the movie the Matrix and so on.
[edit on 19-2-2009 by badmedia]