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Originally posted by devareous
it just means god is the alpha and the omega,he is teh all,love and hate,pain and pleasure,he is everything,thats what it means.Read the gosphel of thomas to understand when he gives allt he oppsites god is all them both side eveything.
The god of the bible is claimed to be omnipotent and omniscient.
If you can change the future, you are not omniscient. If you cannot you are not omnipotent.
Originally posted by crmanager
I don't believe in Santa, I won't spend time disputing his existence.
Originally posted by dbates
God is in the 10th dimension. The Universe is an unchanging static image for him. Imagine yourself looking at a picture of a maze from above with a line drawn to every possible outcome. Changing the outcome is irrelevant since all possible outcomes exist at the same time for God. The attributes omnipotent and omniscient are simply given to help our point of view since that is what they relate to.
Meanings of omnipotence Between people of different faiths, or indeed between people of the same faith, the term omnipotent has been used to connote a number of different positions. These positions include, but are not limited to, the following: 1. A deity is able to do anything that is logically possible for it to do. 2. A deity is able to do anything that it chooses to do. 3. A deity is able to do anything that is in accord with its own nature (thus, for instance, if it is a logical consequence of a deity's nature that what it speaks is truth, then it is not able to lie). 4. Hold that it is part of a deity's nature to be consistent and that it would be inconsistent for said deity to go against its own laws unless there was a reason to do so. 5. A deity is able to do anything that corresponds with its omniscience and therefore with its worldplan 6. A deity is able to do absolutely anything, even the logically impossible.
Definition There is a distinction between: * inherent omniscience - the ability to know anything that one chooses to know and can be known. * total omniscience - actually knowing everything that can be known. Some modern theologians argue that God's omniscience is inherent rather than total, and that God chooses to limit his omniscience in order to preserve the freewill and dignity of his creatures. Certain theologians of the 16th Century, comfortable with the definition of God as being omniscient in the total sense, in order for worthy beings' abilities to choose freely, embraced the doctrine of predestination.
Originally posted by unityemissions
Paradox's are meant to be understood by the intuitive mind. What exactly is circular logic? I've heard this several times.
Just because a way of knowing is presented in the form of a paradox (and therefore is illogical) does not discredit the knowledge it may contain.