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posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 10:29 AM
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Just received this via e-mail: your thoughts??


www.tehrantimes.com.../13/2004&Cat=4&Num=013
New Reports on U.S. Planting WMDs in Iraq


BASRA, April 12 (MNA) - Fifty days after the first reports that the U.S. forces were unloading weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in southern Iraq, new reports about the movement of these weapons have been disclosed.

Sources in Iraq speculate that occupation forces are using the recent unrest in Iraq to divert attention from their surreptitious shipments of WMD into the country.

An Iraqi source close to the Basra Governors Office told the MNA that new information shows that a large part of the WMD, which was secretly brought to southern and western Iraq over the past month, are in containers falsely labeled as containers of the Maeresk shipping company and some consignments bearing the labels of organizations such as the Red Cross or the USAID in order to disguise them as relief shipments.

The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, added that Iraqi officials including forces loyal to the Iraqi Governing Council stationed in southern Iraq have been forbidden from inspecting or supervising the transportation of these consignments. He went on to say that the occupation forces have ordered Iraqi officials to forward any questions on the issue to the coalition forces. Even the officials of the international relief organizations have informed the Iraqi officials that they would only accept responsibility for relief shipments which have been registered and managed by their organizations.

The Iraqi source also confirmed the report about suspicious trucks with fake Saudi and Jordanian license plates entering Iraq at night last week, stressing that the Saudi and Jordanian border guards did not attempt to inspect the trucks but simply delivered them to the U.S. and British forces stationed on Iraqs borders.

However, the source expressed ignorance whether the governments of Saudi Arabia and Jordan were aware of such movements.

A professor of physics at Baghdad University also told the MNA correspondent that a group of his colleagues who are highly specialized in military, chemical and biological fields have been either bribed or threatened during the last weeks to provide written information on what they know about various programs and research centers and the possible storage of WMD equipment.

The professor also said these people have been openly asked to confirm or deny the existence of research or related WMD equipment. A large number of these scientists, who are believed to be under the surveillance of U.S. intelligence operatives, have claimed that if they refuse to comply with this request, they may be killed or arrested on charges of concealing the truth if these weapons are found by the Bush administration in the future.

He said that the Iraqi scientists believe their lives would be in danger if they decline to cooperate with the occupation forces, especially when they recall that senior U.S. officer Michael Peterson once said, Iraqi scientists are at any case a threat to the U.S. administration, whether they talk or not.

A source close to the Iraqi Governing Council said, In the meantime, many suspect containers disguised as fuel supplies have been moved about by some units of the U.S. special forces. The move has been carried out under heavy security measures. Also, there are unofficial reports that the containers held biological and bacteriological toxins in liquid form. It is possible that the news about the discovery of the WMDs would be announced later.

He also said that such mixtures had been used by the Saddam regime in the 1990s.

The source added that some provocative actions such as the closure of Al-Hawza periodical by U.S. administrator Paul Bremer, the secret meetings between his envoys with some extremist groups who have no relations with the Iraqi Governing Council, the sudden upsurge in violence in central and southern Iraq, a number of activities which have stoked up the wrath of the prominent Shia clerics, and finally, the spate of kidnappings and the baseless charges against the Iranian charge daffaires in Baghdad are providing the necessary smokescreen for the transportation of the WMD to their intended locations.

He said they are quite aware that the White House in cooperation with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has directly tasked the Defense Department to hide these weapons. Given the recent scandals to the effect that the U.S. president was privy to the 9/11 plot, they might try to immediately announce the discovery of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in order to overshadow the scandals and prevent a further decline of Bushs public opinion rating as the election approaches.




posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 10:42 AM
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Ya...so tell me mepatriot, why wasSaddam buying time and refusing to let the weapons inspectors in the factories that they were denied access right up to the speech president Bush gave after the ultimatum? One week was given to Saddam to let the weapon inspectors access to those factories. Saddam of course said he won't let them in, but when Bush gave his speech that our forces were already in Iraq fighting a bit later Saddam gave a message that he would sit down and talk now, that he would let in the weapons inspectors in all the factories. I remember watching this on the news, live.

And don't give me that crap about the news being controlled by the govenrment and changing the facts.

The only ones that were caught lying was the Iraqi news media (I think it was Aljazeera) as they kept saying that Baghdag was not taken by the US and that the Iraqi forces were beating the Us forces when we had already taken it.



[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Muaddib]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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"Just received this via e-mail: your thoughts??


www.tehrantimes.com.../13/2004&Cat=4&Num=013
New Reports on U.S. Planting WMDs in Iraq


BASRA, April 12 (MNA) "

Gee....what possible reason could the tehran times have for spreading that?



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 11:03 AM
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The question could equally be asked,what possible motive could the US have for suppressing such news?

I think it unlikely but I wouldn't discount it just because it came from Iran.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 11:04 AM
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This story is not going away like its supposed to.


The powers that be are doing their damndest to shut it down. Gotta have that October Surprise.


The story is spreading.. there is definitely something to it.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 12:25 PM
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funny thing, I heard this mentioned on Fox News in one of those famous quick blurbs never to resurface again. Let's just say, I won't be surprised when WMD's show up in about a month or two from now.



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
funny thing, I heard this mentioned on Fox News in one of those famous quick blurbs never to resurface again. Let's just say, I won't be surprised when WMD's show up in about a month or two from now.


I've been saying that all along... we WILL find WMD's in Iraq as well as other places...

Just before the elections....



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 12:45 PM
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"quick blurbs", "factoids", "sources have said or indicate" crap, and theres the Tehran Times.....

Hey, maybe they in the same propaganda spew business as Mehr (just been busted for spreading purposeful propaganda) or Al-Jahzeera?




seekerof



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 12:55 PM
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Hey Seekeroff, do you remember the name of that crazy iraqi militant that kept saying on the news that Baghdag was not being overrun by the US forces, and that the US forces were running from the Iraqis? When we had taken the city of Baghdag.

I am almost sure that it was aljazeera reporting this, it was on the Iraqi news as it was reported back here on the news also. He kept saying this until he was taken from the place where he was broadcasting and then he said he was "ordered" to do this.

Humm, why would the media over there make up such things?.....

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Muaddib]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 01:07 PM
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Well, the answer is relatively simple....they are against the "great Satan".......


The thing that gets me is when a MidEast News source, or two, are revealed as being simple propaganda mechanisms for the extremist, etc. And yet, they get called and deemed reliable or credible, when it has been continually shown to be otherwise.

The Tehran Times has been pumping their anti-US..."Great Satan"...spew for many, many years. US moving WMD into Iraq? Knowingly to them (Iran and the Tehran Times), it is Iran that is the ones doing the moving in of WMD into Iraq...probably some of the ones that Saddam gave them....much like the modern, front-line jet fighters that Saddam sent over to Iran to escape destruction, only to NEVER see again...some 'friend', eh? Iran is probably moving them in because they are beginning to see and think that, as with Libya, as with Iraq, they may be next......pretty just like those reports that Syria was moving WMD into Sudan....probably somemore of those Saddam WMD, but because of the heat being applied to Syria, Assad needed to get them out of country. Gee...I wonder where they (iran and Syria) learned that trick from?


Interestingly enough, when the report of Syria moving WMD into Sudan hit ATS, the very same people that believe this Tehran Times BS were no where to be found or making any real comments.....hmm, I wonder why?
I think I may have figured out why: the report(s) wasn't or weren't sanctioned or media sourced (carried) by the likes of the Tehran Times, or Mehr, or Al-Jahzeera.



seekerof

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Seekerof]



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:05 PM
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So you choose to believe who you choose to believe...at least now you've had "the rest of the story."

(I wonder if you WILL believe we found WMD's that weren't planted by us, if announced before the elections?? Now that would take faith!)



posted on Apr, 15 2004 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
Hey Seekeroff, do you remember the name of that crazy iraqi militant that kept saying on the news that Baghdag was not being overrun by the US forces, and that the US forces were running from the Iraqis? When we had taken the city of Baghdag.

I am almost sure that it was aljazeera reporting this, it was on the Iraqi news as it was reported back here on the news also. He kept saying this until he was taken from the place where he was broadcasting and then he said he was "ordered" to do this.

Humm, why would the media over there make up such things?.....

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Muaddib]


Do you mean this guy :



Bagdad Bob ! AKA - Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Said Al-Sahaf


check out his remarks :

"The information I received from the governorates was more precise and comprehensive than the information I got from the Baghdad area. I was sincere in everything I said, even just before the fall of Baghdad international airport." "The information was correct, but the interpretations were not," he said. "I did my duty up to the last minute." [the war was a] "very difficult time. Not just on one man, but on all." [my quotes] "are all from the Arab history and all will be clear on time." [I received my information] "From authentic sources. Many authentic sources."


dunamai.com...

you have to go read these... they're hiliarious






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