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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by spinkyboo
I understand what you are saying
and I can empathize
however 800 bases in over 140 countries is just too large a number
But the jury did find him liable on four claims of assault and four claims of infliction of emotional distress and ordered Barnett to pay $77,804 in damages — $60,000 of which were punitive.
Originally posted by eyewitness86
reply to post by Keyhole
So, you believe that the person pointing the gun, the person detaining(kidnapping) the women...HE was the one under stress? What? The PAST actions of OTHER people, people who were NOT there that day...have ZERO to do with this, can't you see? If not, why not? What is wrong with the cognitive abilities of people who cannot comprehend such a simple thing?
The RANCHER, like all of us, has a duty to act responsibly. The PAST he experiencd has NO bearing on how he isupposed to act. Fact.
Now, the RANCHER pointed an assault rifle at WOMEN and held them against their will. In many circumstances that could be called armed kidnapping and much more, calling for a long prison term..He is LUCKY that the local cops are his pals and hate Mexicans as much as he does, or the lawyers would not have had to seek justice in the courts in a lawsuit.
The RANCHER is a coward and bully. He has to use big guns on WOMEN and has admitted to abusing and slamming people around already...he laughs and think that abusing human beings is funny!! Trespassing is a MINOR deal...petty. It is NEVER justified to grab guns and detain people without legal basis for merely crossing some invisible line in the sand.
If the rancher doesn't believe that he is getting the proper help from his government, then he can do what we are all told to do: Write your politicians and then wait for hell to freeze over.the rancher does NOT have the right to detain anyone for trespassing...he cannot point guns at people and threaten to kill them...all for merely walking on his precious dirty ranch land? Please.
This rancher is no better than any other violent thug....grab a gun and hassl women..sounds like a great guy...I hope he loses his ranch to the next group he assaults.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by eyewitness86
Thanks Eyewitness
I'm glad to see some sanity in this thread
starred
Originally posted by eyewitness86
reply to post by Keyhole
So, you believe that the person pointing the gun, the person detaining(kidnapping) the women...HE was the one under stress? What?
The PAST actions of OTHER people, people who were NOT there that day...have ZERO to do with this, can't you see? If not, why not? What is wrong with the cognitive abilities of people who cannot comprehend such a simple thing?
The RANCHER, like all of us, has a duty to act responsibly. The PAST he experiencd has NO bearing on how he isupposed to act. Fact.
Now, the RANCHER pointed an assault rifle at WOMEN and held them against their will. In many circumstances that could be called armed kidnapping and much more, calling for a long prison term..He is LUCKY that the local cops are his pals and hate Mexicans as much as he does, or the lawyers would not have had to seek justice in the courts in a lawsuit.
The RANCHER is a coward and bully. He has to use big guns on WOMEN and has admitted to abusing and slamming people around already...he laughs and think that abusing human beings is funny!! Trespassing is a MINOR deal...petty. It is NEVER justified to grab guns and detain people without legal basis for merely crossing some invisible line in the sand.
If the rancher doesn't believe that he is getting the proper help from his government, then he can do what we are all told to do: Write your politicians and then wait for hell to freeze over.the rancher does NOT have the right to detain anyone for trespassing...he cannot point guns at people and threaten to kill them...all for merely walking on his precious dirty ranch land? Please.
This rancher is no better than any other violent thug....grab a gun and hassl women..sounds like a great guy...I hope he loses his ranch to the next group he assaults.
Originally posted by XTexan
reply to post by Swatman
lol, it seems to be a very polarized issue... Some people support the rights of criminals over the rights of others. Some don't. It baffles me really.
Originally posted by Retseh
I live in Arizona, and I'm angry beyond words.
My wife fended off 2 illegals with a pistol, do I need to start saving now because she didn't let them rape her?
Originally posted by XTexan
reply to post by Retseh
Tell your wife, that in the future... one shot to each forehead. Case closed and no lawsuit.
Do you have the castle law in Arizona? Learn from Joe Horn.
Originally posted by Venom23cq
Holy * I am a new poster but long time lurker, I made an account just because i was angry that this man has to pay that much and there are people here supporting it and calling him(the rancher) the bad guy. Are you kidding, if he was such a bad guy he would have killed him if he wanted...Correct me if im wrong, i thought when you hold a criminal (which they are) untill cops arrive, wouldn't that be citizens arrest? and i put emphasis on correct me if im wrong. I feel sorry for the guy, hopefully he can afford it.